Skyrim and 30GB+ of mods and anime look

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dougp

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I'll keep it short.
If it troubles you that much, write to the admin and ask them to delete my thread. I did this thread with a spirit of "sharing" the hours I put behind my modding for those of you interested in getting the same result as me, no more, no less. For all I care this thread can disappear since my game already fulfill my expectations.
End of story.

I don't think you get it, you need to EDIT the original post and remove ANY links that contain the files that were modified by other people that haven't given you the permission to use them, AS WELL AS THE DOWNLOAD LINKS. It is not the authors responsibility to do that, it's yours. Don't be a little bitch about it.
 

Red Storm

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I have no interest in this mod, but the discussion about credits and whatnot humors me. These are free community made mods for a game, doesn't Bethesda technically own the rights to everything made with the toolset? There's no legal obligation towards any mod maker, it's just something done out of kindness AFAIK.
 

Starac

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Done and have a good day.

Thank you.

I have no interest in this mod, but the discussion about credits and whatnot humors me. These are free community made mods for a game, doesn't Bethesda technically own the rights to everything made with the toolset? There's no legal obligation towards any mod maker, it's just something done out of kindness AFAIK.

I don't use Bethesda tools at all. Don't need them.

And my mod is free. You can use my assets and make your own compilation, but don't display it publicly. For this you must ask me first.
 

magomago

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Well it troubles me. I'm an SRO author.

You don't have permission to use my assets in your compilation. Read "Permissions and Credits" section on Nexus. So you should remove this torrent.

Btw, what you did with this compilation is beyond horrible! Just my opinion.

Thanks.

If you post it online for people to use, expect it to get used in more ways than your initial intention. If you can't stand that it may be used in a way that doesn't align with your vision, don't post it on the internet.
 
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If you post it online for people to use, expect it to get used in more ways than your initial intention. If you can't stand that it may be used in a way that doesn't align with your vision, don't post it on the internet.

He's still entitled to voice his opinion about it. And the bigger issue is the repackaging and redistribution of someone else's work without permission. No one is saying that he can't make Skyrim look however he wants, but he's not allowed to repost Starac's work, or anyone else's for that matter, in a packaged file for other people to download. If he wants to talk people through the process, he can link to the mods on the Nexus and people can download them and install them in the order he has to get the same look. Posting other people's work? That's just a no-no.
 

magomago

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He's still entitled to voice his opinion about it. And the bigger issue is the repackaging and redistribution of someone else's work without permission. No one is saying that he can't make Skyrim look however he wants, but he's not allowed to repost Starac's work, or anyone else's for that matter, in a packaged file for other people to download. If he wants to talk people through the process, he can link to the mods on the Nexus and people can download them and install them in the order he has to get the same look. Posting other people's work? That's just a no-no.

Oh yeah sure, he is entitled to his opinion. I don't expect to change any opinions, but atleast voice mine to perhaps persuade those that might have been on the fence.

My concern is the expectation that we should be able to control whatever we post online, because I disagree with that since it would require further control over the internet. Beyond people wanting to be good Samaritans and voluntarily acceding to what particular request a person has, I don't see why a person can't repackage work for others to download when he already went ahead and credited them.

its silly to provide 20-50 links comprised of textures, audio files, new 3-d models, slight changes to the story under the guise of "Its my assets" when discussing FREE MATERIAL.

Boo hoo, the original author wanted an email asking for permission? If a person credits you whether you know about it, then what does it matter, especially when its free material that is released!

That seems like un-necessary blocks on the road to higher forms of creativity where you now synthesize existing work together in a unique and meaningful way vs. have to go and create things from basic fundamental levels (ie: textures).

Its a question that goes far beyond this thread and I digress too much, but I don't think the OP should have remove the link at all.
 
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Oh yeah sure, he is entitled to his opinion. I don't expect to change any opinions, but atleast voice mine to perhaps persuade those that might have been on the fence.

My concern is the expectation that we should be able to control whatever we post online, because I disagree with that since it would require further control over the internet. Beyond people wanting to be good Samaritans and voluntarily acceding to what particular request a person has, I don't see why a person can't repackage work for others to download when he already went ahead and credited them.

its silly to provide 20-50 links comprised of textures, audio files, new 3-d models, slight changes to the story under the guise of "Its my assets" when discussing FREE MATERIAL.

Boo hoo, the original author wanted an email asking for permission? If a person credits you whether you know about it, then what does it matter, especially when its free material that is released!

That seems like un-necessary blocks on the road to higher forms of creativity where you now synthesize existing work together in a unique and meaningful way vs. have to go and create things from basic fundamental levels (ie: textures).

Its a question that goes far beyond this thread and I digress too much, but I don't think the OP should have remove the link at all.

I disagree. I think it's a basic act of decency to check with the author of something before you distribute it in a way they aren't aware of. This is the reason our copyright laws are so ridiculous; we have to have them or people act like they're entitled to use anyone else's intellectual property at any point for any reason. Is it that hard to ask for permission? Most mod authors don't have a problem with someone else using their work. And those that do have a problem with it have every right to ask someone not to redistribute their material. It just comes down to common courtesy. Starac has provided an excellent texture mod that he has generously made available for free. All he has asked is some measure of control over the distribution. If people are going to completely ignore his requests and distribute his material without his permission, he may get fed up and stop making mods. What good does that do us?

If someone is committed to sharing their vision of Skyrim (or indeed any game) using other people's mods, they can do what the author of the Skyrim Texture Pack Combiner did; give people a means to download the individual mods the way the mod authors intended, then combine them through a separate batch file to make the install easier. Or you can keep it simple and just give a list of links, as I myself did when I made this post. To take someone else's work and redistribute it without their knowledge? That's shady, and it shouldn't be encouraged.
 

fabiencolombo

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Let thias thread die.
I deleted everything anyway. My mod, my screens, my tutoriel, the torrent link everything.
As a modder myself I don't understand the big deal. Some of you talk of decency, of copyrights etc. But I would be proud if my work was used by others and redisttibuted as well.

Now about the idea of putting up the link to nexus I personnally found this to be ridiculus.
My torrent was made of more than 300 textures mods (I do not exagerate) and the I used maybe a few from the SRO. Now following atomix idea I should have put up the link of every mod on the nexus. What would happen?
People would have to download the whole SRO (i dunno 3GB?) for 4 or 4 miserable textures?
If I putted all the links the end result would have been people forced to download 200GB of useless stuff instead of 10GB in a neat torrent.

But hey who am I to discuss this? Just a guy who put a lot of effort to in this thread and thinking that it might benefit others, nothing more.

As I said I took out everything from here even my own work, so once again let this thread die

Edit: anyway the torrent, my mod and everything else is available on another site...
 
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cbm25

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Hey fabien, where exactly do you have this post up elsewhere. I dont get why that jackass was harping you the mod, the thread, the helpful 30 gigs of other mods u can find. Best post I ever saw for modders.
 

LordSether

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I had downloaded the files before he took them down. i might be able to put them up somewhere but i never was able to get them to work so my coppy might not have downloaded correctly or something.
 
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say that this forum doesn't allow the redistribution of copyrighted materials without the consent of the author, so even if fabiencolombo still has the resources available, it would be a violation of this board's policy for anyone to post links to them given that the original author of the materials has requested their removal. Please don't do it.
 

shortylickens

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I dont care about copyright. And deep down I dont care about pedophilia in games. I was just giving the guy a hard time.
 
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I dont care about copyright. And deep down I dont care about pedophilia in games. I was just giving the guy a hard time.

Not everything is about you shorty. Most things, fine. But not everything. If someone is violating the terms of service, that's worth noting.
 

Gloric

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I was just doing a search for some big mod compilations for a new play experience. Google gave me this thread, looked hopeful.
But then I saw this guy get nothing but grief from self righteous and antagonistic personalities.
There is no copyright, no law, nothing, that prevents him from distributing freeware, public content, which cannot be owned or claimed to by anyone but Bethesda, legally.
All the modders can hope for is a honourable mention if their content is used. If they don't, that's stiff nipples.

Of course, the guy with 43,000+ posts is going to have his say, I don't think I have to say much more on that.

I'm saddened I missed getting this content by a month. Hopefully I can find it or something similar elsewhere.

Pretty abysmal community if all that can result from a nice guy sharing his hours of work (ie. hours of time used on something = work, even if it's a rehash of others) is him getting berated for it.



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EDIT: I apologize for the profanity, kind-of reflex.
 
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Arkitech

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cbm25 & Gloric
Check your mp guys.

Can you PM me the links to your mods? I'm currently putting some money together to build a new system and the first game I'm loading will be Skyrim. After which I'm gonna mod it to death.


Also can anyone tell me if the screenshots here are actually possible/playable with the right mods?
























Sorry about the multiple images, I went a little crazy
 

zinfamous

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Arkitech--if you look a few posts up, or maybe more, about these screenshots, or if you simply read the comments from the guy that makes them, this is completely unplayable.

He takes these screens at ultra max settings when he manages ~ 1 FPS. While I can't guess what your preferences may be for games, the creator of these screens, at least, mentions that the game is completely unplayable at these settings.



His intent is not to show how gorgeous this game is to play, he simply has some notion of the beauty that can exist in the world of video games, and he wants to display that.
 

Arkitech

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Arkitech--if you look a few posts up, or maybe more, about these screenshots, or if you simply read the comments from the guy that makes them, this is completely unplayable.

He takes these screens at ultra max settings when he manages ~ 1 FPS. While I can't guess what your preferences may be for games, the creator of these screens, at least, mentions that the game is completely unplayable at these settings.



His intent is not to show how gorgeous this game is to play, he simply has some notion of the beauty that can exist in the world of video games, and he wants to display that.

I should have known that was just too good to be true. But who knows maybe in a few months there will be some new hardware to make gameplay with those graphics a reality.
 
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