Skyrim on a 9800 gtx+ (with setup in sig)

[Majcric]

I have grown tired of the TDR's that I consistantly get with my GTX 560 ti on the same setup. So I'm curious has anybody had any luck running on this older card. I look to sell my GTX 560 ti and pray the new architecture bonds well with the future Nvidia drivers. ( 4 months of no fix is too long) And when the new cards are released Nvidia will most likely leave the owners with older architecture as sitting ducks.

For the record, My 9800 gtx+ doesn't know what a TDR is

 

[Concillian]

I run it okay at 1920x1200 on a 5770. That's not too different from a 9800 GTX is it? Maybe a small step faster than a 9800GTX?

I obviously can't run AA, but it runs decent at ultra with FXAA. Some minor slowdowns, but overall not bad.

You didn't mention your rez.

 

[RavenSEAL]

What issues are you having with your 560? They seem to be pretty stable from what I understand...

 

[Majcric]

Evga SC GTX 560 ti crashes in 2D or while browsing
I have been reading various forums on the net about this issue but I'm still unsure whether or not this applys to me. Ok here is what happens with my card i get random crashes that states windows kernel has recovered such and such driver. ( currently running 285.27 beta.)I have tried every driver that supports the GTX 560 ti. Strangely enough, this has never happened while gaming or under any stress test. However, I have had this to happen watching a youtube video, checking email, and just surfing the net. Another odd thing is if i do a fresh install of my drivers it takes close to a week for this issue to happen again, so it seems random and repeatable.

Here is what I've done so far:
Rma'd 1 Gtx 560ti already
Resetted card more than once
Ran memtest (everything came out good; no errors
Tried my old 9800 gtx+ (everything is stable no matter what driver is applied.)
Uninstalled and reinstalled drivers numerous amounts of time, using safe mode and driver sweeper.
Tried overwriting old drivers the way Nvidia site suggest

My system Specs:
Windows 7 Ulimate 64 bit
Gigabyte P67x-UD3-B3
I5 2500k stock
Corsair vegeance 4g ram
Corsair 650w Psu
Western Digital sata 320gb

Avira as my anti-virus protector.
my res is 1680x1050

A dedicated thread to the GTX 560 ti having a lot of problems
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=193106
that's just one site.


A thread that is pertaining to my current issue
Look here: http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=215256

Nvidia can't seem to put a cap on this problem... and I really really wonder if they ever will...especially after the new architecture arrives

 

[dancinbr]

Hello,

New to Anandtech, senior former member of PCPer.

I am running SKYRIM on a ge force 9800 GTX+.

I really just started to do this.

The graphics works dumbed down a bit. However, I am getting black specals all over the image.

It still runs the game. I enjoy Elder Scrolls. I still play oblivion for relaxation and I have morrowind as well as some of the Fallout games.

So, I am looking to see if I can overclock my 9800 to perhaps cure some of these specals. Maybe I simply need to up the memory clock a little.

That is why I decided to finally join Anandtech. I may also upgrade from Windows/XP to Windows 7 Professional SP1 since it appears to finally offer better service than XP. Up to know now reason. Now, it makes sense since I can also upgrade my graphics card.

My rig is getting old; a Intel Quad core Q6600 with 2 gig ram, but it still runs quite well. I might finally squeeze some extra cycles out of the cpu. I have left it at 2.4ghz.

I am a former "folder" and moderator. However, many changes have occurred that sort of left many members wanting. So I have retired from the folding community.

Ralph

 

[lsv]

I run it okay at 1920x1200 on a 5770. That's not too different from a 9800 GTX is it? Maybe a small step faster than a 9800GTX?

I obviously can't run AA, but it runs decent at ultra with FXAA. Some minor slowdowns, but overall not bad.

You didn't mention your rez.

15fps?

 

[WildW]

I too am running a 5770 (along with i5-2500) at 1920x1200. . . surprised how smooth everything is. Playing on High rather than Ultra, item/actor/object fade at maximum draw distance, Fraps says 60 indoors, drops into 50s outdoors and I don't think ever less than high 40's for brief moments. Then again, I am running BOINC in the background.

 

[Puppies04]

Have you tried this? Worked fine for me, no more problems...


1. open REGEDIT
2. goto HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\GraphicsDrivers.
3. Add following DWORD "TdrLevel"
4. Set the value to "0"

 

[Majcric]

Have you tried this? Worked fine for me, no more problems...


1. open REGEDIT
2. goto HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\GraphicsDrivers.
3. Add following DWORD "TdrLevel"
4. Set the value to "0"

Ya know, puppie I wanted to avoid the registry tweak except maybe as a last resort, it's me being a perfectionist with computers, I guess, and it feels like doing something half-ass.

But... But... I am really really giving this some serious thought. NOW

 

[peonyu]

Ya know, puppie I wanted to avoid the registry tweak except maybe as a last resort, it's me being a perfectionist with computers, I guess, and it feels like doing something half-ass.

But... But... I am really really giving this some serious thought. NOW

Sometimes to get the most out of your PC you have to regedit. Blame it on companies hiding the options from you in the UI, or just compatibility issues...But there you go, give it a shot. If it doesnt work then revert it, that key wont kill your card or windows!

 

[Mopetar]

The game runs pretty well on the 8800 I have so you should be fine. You'll probably need to adjust the resolution and quality settings depending on what kind of frame rate you want to get.

 

[Concillian]

15fps?

15 FPS does not equal "It runs okay" It gets considerably better than 15 FPS.

I checked my settings since I was at work on the last post, and I'm at home now.

Texture & decal quality = Ultra
Shadow & blur = High
FXAA & all water effects checked

no MSAA
16xAF

HD5770 OCed at 925 / 1300
i3 530 OCed at 4.1 GHz

Sometimes it's noticeably slow when I first go outside after being inside. Presumably it's loading some textures or something. That goes away after a couple seconds, then it goes back to decent FPS.
5770 isn't a bad card if you can play without MSAA. FXAA helps a lot for Skyrim and has very little effect on FPS. Sure, I'd do better with a better video card and turning on 4xMSAA... and I'll get one when the 28nm cards come out, then likely an IB later, but no way I'm buying a card right before the 28nm cards come out. Video quality is still good enough that my brother in law console player was gaping in amazement when he saw Skyrim on my computer when he was used to Xbox Skyrim.

 

[Leyawiin]

You should be able to play at least on the medium preset with that card @ 1680x1050. Your i5-2500k will cover a lot of the work for it. I wouldn't be surprised if you could do the high preset.

 

[birthdaymonkey]

I had TDRs on anything newer than 275.33 with my 560 Ti. Since reverting to these drivers, I have had zero crashes for a couple months. I haven't tried any of the really recent betas because I have little faith that this bug is being addressed.

 

[dancinbr]

I have my initial version of Windows 7 Pro sp1 running now.

I have Skyrim installed.

I found ideal settings for it.

The graphics are pretty darn good on my Nvidia 550i albeit it isn't the top of the line.

I am happy.

The one thing I may do is get a solid state drive.

I know what that can do.

Now I have to figure out how to put up my sig with my PC config. Looks like the same site software being used here as was in PCPer.

I will work on that soon.

Ralph

 

[Face2Face]

I play Skyrim with the PC in the sig and it plays very well @ 1080. I have the settings on ultra accept for the shadows, they are at medium. All of the draw distances are maxed and the AA is @ 2X and AF @ 8X. I get 30-40 FPS outside and 50-60 Inside. I love the game so much I just ordered a HD 6870 for even better frame rates with more AA and AF.

 

[Puppies04]

I have my initial version of Windows 7 Pro sp1 running now.

I have Skyrim installed.

I found ideal settings for it.

The graphics are pretty darn good on my Nvidia 550i albeit it isn't the top of the line.

I am happy.

The one thing I may do is get a solid state drive.

I know what that can do.

Now I have to figure out how to put up my sig with my PC config. Looks like the same site software being used here as was in PCPer.

I will work on that soon.

Ralph

Just to clarify, what exactly do you "know" a SSD will do? If you are talking about increasing FPS you are mistaken. It will however reduce loading times.

 

[Lorddrac]

Im running it with an old bfg gtx 280 @ 1080p and havent had a hitch!

 

[nyker96]

well who says only amd has driver issues?!

 

[dancinbr]

Just to clarify, what exactly do you "know" a SSD will do? If you are talking about increasing FPS you are mistaken. It will however reduce loading times.

I know what SSD will do for me.

It will make this system fly with respect to loading programs and using various apps , etc., etc.

I understand that for gaming the graphics card is most likely the limiting factor in getting frames per second.

I did find some information with respect to Skyrim that suggests I will get in the area of 47fps on my 550i with certain settings.

http://uk.geforce.com/hardware/desk...elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-geforce-gtx-550-Ti-ops

I appreciate everyone's input on this as well.

Thank you,

Ralph

 

[BD231]

well who says only amd has driver issues?!

If you own a fermi product you WILL be going through driver crashes at some point, stock clocks or not, it's just a fact. Fermi has inherent stability issues, or, at least that's the way I've perceived since its inception. Everyone swore up and down it was the immature power phase's and or cheap VRM's. Fast forward to now and people are still complaining about the same problems.

Oddly, ever since I went SLi I can't reproduce the TDR crash issues. It's not a big issue anyway, it does nothing but reset your driver within windows and not a single other app is affected by it for more than the few seconds it takes to get picture back.

 

[jimpatrick]

i can run skyrim on a 9800gt green edition 1280x1024(max reso my lcd can provide :awe 60fps.

 

[Majcric]

If you own a fermi product you WILL be going through driver crashes at some point, stock clocks or not, it's just a fact. Fermi has inherent stability issues, or, at least that's the way I've perceived since its inception. Everyone swore up and down it was the immature power phase's and or cheap VRM's. Fast forward to now and people are still complaining about the same problems.

Oddly, ever since I went SLi I can't reproduce the TDR crash issues. It's not a big issue anyway, it does nothing but reset your driver within windows and not a single other app is affected by it for more than the few seconds it takes to get picture back.

I agree with your post and if I known about the Fermi issues beforehand I wouldn't have purchased one . Before my registry tweak, It was very annoying, sometimes I would get back to back to back TDR's depending on the driver, Etc. Have you tried AMD 6 series cards? If so, how stable are they compared to the Fermi cards?

 

[SlowSpyder]

I too am running a 5770 (along with i5-2500) at 1920x1200. . . surprised how smooth everything is. Playing on High rather than Ultra, item/actor/object fade at maximum draw distance, Fraps says 60 indoors, drops into 50s outdoors and I don't think ever less than high 40's for brief moments. Then again, I am running BOINC in the background.

To help another forum member I installed Skyrim on my Llano laptop (A6-3400M) and was rather surprised to get a playable 25-30FPS in outdoor areas with everything set to medium, no AA, 8xAF. This game really seems to run well on lesser hardware if you are willing to settle for moderate settings.

 

[coldpower27]

Guess I shouldn't update till I have to right? Still on 26x.xx something...