Sleep deprivation ... how long does it take to recover

[Kushina]

I'm not talking about a few days, more like weeks or months of not getting enough sleep per night (2-6 hours). For those of you that have been there how did it affect you? And how long does it take you to get back to normal?

Currently, I got 14 hours of sleep on friday night/saturday then 10 on saturday night/sunday. Then 2 hours on sunday night, was woken up, then 2 hours more. Monday night/tuesday I got 8.5 hours. But I'm still foggy af, can't multitask too well, and focus is shot.

Wondering if this happens to anyone else, I normally like to sleep 8 hours per night.

 

[Ns1]

crashed for 13 hours the other day - got home from work at 6pm and got up at 7am to get ready for work again. i have constant sleep deprivation due to sleep apnea.

Normally I run a sleep deficit for 6 days in the week (meaning 6 hours or less of sleep per night) and then try to get 8-10 hours on the day I'm not working.


Possibly related, but I buy cold brew coffee concentrate 5 quarts at a time.

 

[brianmanahan]

Normally I run a sleep deficit for 6 days in the week (meaning 6 hours or less of sleep per night) and then try to get 8-10 hours on the day I'm not working.

6 hours is a deficit? i thought that was pretty much normal.

i do 5 on weekdays and 7 on weekends.

 

[Ns1]

6 hours is a deficit? i thought that was pretty much normal.

i do 5 on weekdays and 7 on weekends.

They tell you to do 8. I consider 6 to be a victory. The other night I got 3.

 

[Captante]

What is this thing you call "sleep"??

 

[cavemanmoron]

Years. After you retire your sleep schedule will be all wacked.

 

[brianmanahan]

They tell you to do 8. I consider 6 to be a victory. The other night I got 3.

heh, i haven't gotten that much sleep since elementary school

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

I felt that I officially reached adulthood when no matter what I did (play videogames till 3, throw back a good number of beers) I still somehow will wake up and not be able to go back to sleep around 7-8. Sucks.

That's one of the worst things about being in the US is lack of sleep in the working world. Fucking sucks. I don't even know what 8 hours is anymore.

 

[Craig234]

https://www.seventhgeneration.com/enhancing-health/cost-sleep-debt-can-you-recover

 

[ch33zw1z]

My work schedule causes a pretty tough sleeping pattern.

If I get 6-7each night, I'm lucky.

 

[OverVolt]

As I understand it the purpose of sleep is to remove beta-amyloid proteins from the brain, because they plaque together and make signals derptarded. Particularly new learning.

When you sleep the brain shrinks a significant amount and CSF flows increase 400% or so to sweep out beta-amyloid proteins to the liver for digestion. Which is why chronic alcohol use leads to bad sleep long term, but will put you to sleep quickly short term.

Anyways if you are chronically sleep deprived you will "quick sleep" and pass completely out for like 4 hrs. Just last week I wasn't getting enough sleep and got like 12 hrs of sleep both weekend days. Kinda sucked I had alot to do.

It only takes one night of good sleep to undo the damage and re-balance your mood and learning IMO. However your hormones that regulate sleep like ADH will be all out of whack. ADH makes you retain water before you sleep for obvious reasons. You need to be hydrated to get good sleep. When you drink caffeine and pee clear you are dumping sodium from your blood volume. You won't be thirsty because the body doesn't have a water sensor so to speak, it only has cells that can measure blood pressure and sodium concentration so you can dump water and sodium from the blood which thickens it, and the caffeine increases your BP, and your body doesn't realize how dehydrated it is.

So my recommendation to fix bad sleep is a good regimen. Your body is programmed to eat during waking hours. So make sure you eat while at work. If you drink caffeine make sure you eat some SALTY food after work to trigger thirst as your levels of caffeine come down. Salt will make your body realize its dehydrated then you'll actually be thirsty and want to drink water as oppose to just getting a headache and being thirsty but not wanting to drink. This should kick in right before bed and then ADH will retain the water and you'll pass out.

Also chronic bad sleep is linked to poor mood/mental disorders so don't do anything stupid or make big decisions until you get good rest.

 

[gorcorps]

As I understand it the purpose of sleep is to remove beta-amyloid proteins from the brain, because they plaque together and make signals derptarded. Particularly new learning.

When you sleep the brain shrinks a significant amount and CSF flows increase 400% or so to sweep out beta-amyloid proteins to the liver for digestion. Which is why chronic alcohol use leads to bad sleep long term, but will put you to sleep quickly short term.

Anyways if you are chronically sleep deprived you will "quick sleep" and pass completely out for like 4 hrs. Just last week I wasn't getting enough sleep and got like 12 hrs of sleep both weekend days. Kinda sucked I had alot to do.

It only takes one night of good sleep to undo the damage and re-balance your mood and learning IMO. However your hormones that regulate sleep like ADH will be all out of whack. ADH makes you retain water before you sleep for obvious reasons. You need to be hydrated to get good sleep. When you drink caffeine and pee clear you are dumping sodium from your blood volume. You won't be thirsty because the body doesn't have a water sensor so to speak, it only has cells that can measure blood pressure and sodium concentration so you can dump water and sodium from the blood which thickens it, and the caffeine increases your BP, and your body doesn't realize how dehydrated it is.

So my recommendation to fix bad sleep is a good regimen. Your body is programmed to eat during waking hours. So make sure you eat while at work. If you drink caffeine make sure you eat some SALTY food after work to trigger thirst as your levels of caffeine come down. Salt will make your body realize its dehydrated then you'll actually be thirsty and want to drink water as oppose to just getting a headache and being thirsty but not wanting to drink. This should kick in right before bed and then ADH will retain the water and you'll pass out.

Also chronic bad sleep is linked to poor mood/mental disorders so don't do anything stupid or make big decisions until you get good rest.

I think my favorite part about this post is this one phrase which is in stark contrast to how clinical and straight forward the rest of the information is presented.

I like it

 

[brianmanahan]

I think my favorite part about this post is this one phrase which is in stark contrast to how clinical and straight forward the rest of the information is presented.

I like it

i noticed this as well and did a double take. i was like, "is this a medical term which i am not remembering? ... nope."

 

[gorcorps]

i noticed this as well and did a double take. i was like, "is this a medical term which i am not remembering? ... nope."

Maybe it SHOULD be a medical term

it's probably easier to take the news that you're sterile and can't have kids (if you wanted them) if you're told your sperm are derptarded

 

[cbrunny]

Was awake last week from Wednesday 8:30 AM to Thursday 10:00 PM straight. Slept 14 hours. Still took a few more days for me to balance out, but I'm back to normal now.

 

[brianmanahan]

Maybe it SHOULD be a medical term

it's probably easier to take the news that you're sterile and can't have kids (if you wanted them) if you're told your sperm are derptarded

if idiocracy is correct, within 500 years this WILL be a medical term

 

[shortylickens]

You need to recollect each of minute of sleep you lose.
BUT, unless you know for a fact exactly how much sleep you need, you'll never be sure what you are losing.

 

[gorcorps]

You need to recollect each of minute of sleep you lose.
BUT, unless you know for a fact exactly how much sleep you need, you'll never be sure what you are losing.

This is the biggest issue, which IMO is the the center of a lot of undiagnosed problems. Some symptoms are so gradual you get used to them, and without knowing how I'm supposed to feel I'll never really know if I'm sleeping enough. I could feel fine in my opinion, but in reality I could be doing even better if I slept more.

 

[who?]

If you think that you see things moving over in the far side of your vision you need sleep.

 

[Svnla]

Ideally, you "should" get about 7 hours of nonstop deep sleep per night. I am lucky if I can get 6 hours or so per night. How long to recover? I think it depends on the person but I used to be able to "make it up" but sleep more during Saturdays/Sundays but no longer able to do so. It is past midnight here and I am still unable to sleep now.

I think a lack of sleep will be my downfall later when I am getting older because I rarely smoke/drink and never done drugs and I am in reasonable shape/size.

Edit: Now it is 2 a.m. and I am still unable to sleep. Darn it.

 

[shortylickens]

This is the biggest issue, which IMO is the the center of a lot of undiagnosed problems. Some symptoms are so gradual you get used to them, and without knowing how I'm supposed to feel I'll never really know if I'm sleeping enough. I could feel fine in my opinion, but in reality I could be doing even better if I slept more.

You'd need to evaluate yourself for a few weeks to be sure. Maybe spreadsheets and some kind of data analysis.
I figured out if I'm not doing much of anything I can get by with a mere 7 hours of sleep each day.
In the Navy I learned if I'm working hard I need closer to 10 hours. Since you cant actually get 10 hours a day under such circumstances, you gotta make it up later, which sucks when you finally hit port and wanna go out on the town. Pain in the ass.

 

[brianmanahan]

Edit: Now it is 2 a.m. and I am still unable to sleep. Darn it.

do you take melatonin? i take like 5g of that every night.

 

[Svnla]

do you take melatonin? i take like 5g of that every night.

I am leery about taking any type of drug (habit forming). I will just have to learn how to relax the mind.

 

[brianmanahan]

I am leery about taking any type of drug (habit forming). I will just have to learn how to relax the mind.

it's not a drug, it's a hormone! luckily synthetic at this point

 

[William Gaatjes]

As a person who has gone quite a few nights without sleep(because of not getting into sleep) and still having to work. The only thing i have learned is that sleeping in does not help. It is better to go days in a row to bed early and sleep some extra hours and wake up at the normal time in the morning(also in the weekend) and get up than just sleep all day and still feel tired.