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apoppin

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Originally posted by: Sunner
Get real, not that I know how the contract between AT and TD looks, but somehow I doubt it includes a clause that says AT can remove the ad if the AT members are unhappy with TD.
A contract is legally binding in case you didn't know.

Of course it's unfortunate that the ad got put up in the first place, but the deal was probably sealed by some marketing fella who doesn't have a clue about TD's reputation.
A more reasonable request is that AT be more careful in the future.


Then perhaps we should hear from AT about their contract with TD. I think the entire way this is being handled stinks (unlike the usual "upfront" and open way AT - used to - deal with their membership).

I guess I will put up with the public forum and post far less often.
 

olds

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We could take all our business to nik's forums. We could make him the next Anand.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
We could take all our business to nik's forums. We could make him the next Anand.

:Q w0ot!

But that means that I'll have to get a bigger account from DixieSystems to battle the huge 30GB transfer per day or whatever AT sees...

And that means subscriptions

nik
 

Sunner

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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
We could take all our business to nik's forums. We could make him the next Anand.

:Q w0ot!

But that means that I'll have to get a bigger account from DixieSystems to battle the huge 30GB transfer per day or whatever AT sees...

And that means subscriptions

nik

And advertising, no?
 

apoppin

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Lucky
i sent email to anand. i'd advise anyone with similar feelings to do the same.


Anand already responded in this thread FOUR (4) days ago. He IS aware of our feelings, this thread and situation.



Originally posted by: Anand Lal Shimpi

This will get resolved and it will be done fairly and justly; if in the process we can help resolve issues with TD then so be it, if not then at least we can say we tried.

Take care,
Anand




Evidently nothing is going to be done and the TigerDirect ad will continue to run for it's regular 2 week cycle. It appears that AT feels TigerDirect is a worthy sponsor. :disgust:

As for me, my subscription expires next week and I won't renew it. Well, I tried too.

 

Lucky

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Anand already responded in this thread FOUR (4) days ago. He IS aware of our feelings, this thread and situation.


What is your point? I'm fully aware of that. Does that mean I am not allowed to email him?
 

AnandTech Moderator

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Just to let you know we moderators are with you in this matter. Like you, we are forum members, and we not happy about it either, and I have personally spoken with Anand about your concerns several times. Right now, the problem is that there are contractual issues that must be resolved before this matter can be settled.

We also want to warn you, before you enter TD's contest, you should be aware that doing so will probably result in receiving spam from TD and their "affiliated partners." We assume this means whoever they choose to sell their mailing list to. The rules for their contest state:
2. Email: Should you access the TigerDirect.com web site to participate in this Sweepstakes by clicking on an icon or other link on another web site, by submitting the registration form you will opt-in to receive email or other communications from TigerDirect.com and its affiliated partners. You may subsequently opt-out of the receipt of such email or communications by following the directions in the email or contacting that site. Whether you opt-in or opt-out will not affect your participation, or chances to win, in this Sweepstakes. During the Promotional Period, however, you may nevertheless receive emails which TigerDirect deems are related to the Sweepstakes and related programs.
I know Anand is meeting with our advertising people this week. I strongly suggested to him that, in the future, they should learn from this experience and do a better job of screening prospective advertisers before entering such agreements with them.

All I can promise is that we always have tried, and we will continue to try, to keep our forums what our members want and expect them to be.

AnandTech Moderator
 

Evadman

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Originally posted by: AnandTech Moderator
Just to let you know we moderators are with you in this matter. Like you, we are forum members, and we not happy about it either, and I have personally spoken with Anand about your concerns several times. Right now, the problem is that there are contractual issues that must be resolved before this matter can be settled.

We also want to warn you, before you enter TD's contest, you should be aware that doing so will probably result in receiving spam from TD and their "affiliated partners." We assume this means whoever they choose to sell their mailing list to. The rules for their contest state:
2. Email: Should you access the TigerDirect.com web site to participate in this Sweepstakes by clicking on an icon or other link on another web site, by submitting the registration form you will opt-in to receive email or other communications from TigerDirect.com and its affiliated partners. You may subsequently opt-out of the receipt of such email or communications by following the directions in the email or contacting that site. Whether you opt-in or opt-out will not affect your participation, or chances to win, in this Sweepstakes. During the Promotional Period, however, you may nevertheless receive emails which TigerDirect deems are related to the Sweepstakes and related programs.
I know Anand is meeting with our advertising people this week. I strongly suggested to him that, in the future, they should learn from this experience and do a better job of screening prospective advertisers before entering such agreements with them.

All I can promise is that we always have tried, and we will continue to try, to keep our forums what our members want and expect them to be.

AnandTech Moderator

I for one, thank you Mr/Mrs. Moderator.
 

SuperSix

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It's all about the benjamins, baby..

$$$ talks.. And those ads aren't cheap by any means..
 

GeoffS

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Thanks Mods and thanks Anand. Is the run-time on the ad in fact 2 weeks or are we going to have to look at it longer than that?

Geoff
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Lucky
Anand already responded in this thread FOUR (4) days ago. He IS aware of our feelings, this thread and situation.


What is your point? I'm fully aware of that. Does that mean I am not allowed to email him?

Sure, e-mail him if it makes you feel better or you think it will be helpful . . . my post was in response to your suggestion that everyone follow your example.

NOTHING will change the current TigerDirect ad's run . . . it's called "grin (or curse) and bear it".



 

olds

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Lucky
Anand already responded in this thread FOUR (4) days ago. He IS aware of our feelings, this thread and situation.


What is your point? I'm fully aware of that. Does that mean I am not allowed to email him?

Sure, e-mail him if it makes you feel better or you think it will be helpful . . . my post was in response to your suggestion that everyone follow your example.

NOTHING will change the current TigerDirect ad's run . . . it's called "grin (or curse) and bear it".

This is what's it's called for me. BS
If Anand doesn't issue an apology to all of us and tell us what steps have been taken to ensure that this doesn't happen again I will not renew my subscription which expires in 9 days.
Does anyone here care? I highly doubt it.
I have one thing to say to any person who reads what I just said and flames me for expressing my opinion. It's called prinicplies, look it up. Better yet here's a link.

 

This is what's it's called for me. BS
If Anand doesn't issue an apology to all of us and tell us what steps have been taken to ensure that this doesn't happen again I will not renew my subscription which expires in 9 days.
Does anyone here care? I highly doubt it.
I have one thing to say to any person who reads what I just said and flames me for expressing my opinion. It's called prinicplies, look it up. Better yet here's a link.


Oldsmoboat




 

olds

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Originally posted by: Roger
This is what's it's called for me. BS
If Anand doesn't issue an apology to all of us and tell us what steps have been taken to ensure that this doesn't happen again I will not renew my subscription which expires in 9 days.
Does anyone here care? I highly doubt it.
I have one thing to say to any person who reads what I just said and flames me for expressing my opinion. It's called prinicplies, look it up. Better yet here's a link.


Oldsmoboat

 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Lucky
Anand already responded in this thread FOUR (4) days ago. He IS aware of our feelings, this thread and situation.


What is your point? I'm fully aware of that. Does that mean I am not allowed to email him?

Sure, e-mail him if it makes you feel better or you think it will be helpful . . . my post was in response to your suggestion that everyone follow your example.

NOTHING will change the current TigerDirect ad's run . . . it's called "grin (or curse) and bear it".

This is what's it's called for me. BS
If Anand doesn't issue an apology to all of us and tell us what steps have been taken to ensure that this doesn't happen again I will not renew my subscription which expires in 9 days.
Does anyone here care? I highly doubt it.
I have one thing to say to any person who reads what I just said and flames me for expressing my opinion. It's called prinicplies, look it up. Better yet here's a link.

Jesus Christ dude, it's just a foum on the Internet. I swear some people really get their panties in a wad over the slightest little things!

 

Lucky

Lifer
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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Lucky
Anand already responded in this thread FOUR (4) days ago. He IS aware of our feelings, this thread and situation.


What is your point? I'm fully aware of that. Does that mean I am not allowed to email him?

Sure, e-mail him if it makes you feel better or you think it will be helpful . . . my post was in response to your suggestion that everyone follow your example.

NOTHING will change the current TigerDirect ad's run . . . it's called "grin (or curse) and bear it".


ok so maybe my emails and others will persuade him not to run it in the future.
 

apoppin

Lifer
Mar 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: Lucky
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Lucky
Anand already responded in this thread FOUR (4) days ago. He IS aware of our feelings, this thread and situation.


What is your point? I'm fully aware of that. Does that mean I am not allowed to email him?

Sure, e-mail him if it makes you feel better or you think it will be helpful . . . my post was in response to your suggestion that everyone follow your example.

NOTHING will change the current TigerDirect ad's run . . . it's called "grin (or curse) and bear it".


ok so maybe my emails and others will persuade him not to run it in the future.

I don't think AT will EVER touch a TigerDirect ad with a 10-foot-pole again (unless they are bound by an "unbreakable" contract). I think they were very surprised at our reaction - someone on AT's end really screwed up by not researching TD's background.

I just don't care for the way it was handled.

 

randypj

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AnandTech Moderator--Thank you for a well thought out, reasoned response.

Anand--Thank you for dropping by, to at least show you are aware.

My guess is that it will run through the contract period......then die. My first thought was that, no harm done. But.....with over 100K members now, there's gotta be lotsa Newbs that will get sucked in.

Possibly, it could be discussed in further detail after the contract expires?
--Randy
 

Evadman

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I don't think AT will EVER touch a TigerDirect ad with a 10-foot-pole again (unless they are bound by an "unbreakable" contract). I think they were very surprised at our reaction - someone on AT's end really screwed up by not researching TD's background.

I just don't care for the way it was handled.

I do not see another Tiger add being run either. 2 things would solve all the issues:

#1. Pull the ad. It probably will not hapen because of contractual agreements, and that is fine. I don't like it, but I ( and everyone else ) will understand that your hands our tied. Just tell us that!

#2. Appologize. Anand, or a Mod can post, say they are sorry, and swear off of Tiger. Let the ad run its course. Then the members know that they had an impact, along with knowing that their cries do not fall on deaf ears. From my end, the problem is solved. Memebers again subscribe because they know that it will not happen again.

The person in charge of generating ad revinue is probably not in tune with the general consensus at AT. His/her job is to make AT money. Nothing wrong with that at all. I understand how it can happen. I understand that it is possable that the ad can not be pulled.

AT's administrators have gone a lot farther than most other sites would. They talked to the company on our ( the members ) behalf. Nothing really came of it, but AT did try. AT's administrators even kept us apprised of what was going on.

Only one thing is left, and that is closure. Weather that closure will be AT saying, "Sorry, it will not happen again", or if it is, "too bad. We need $ to keep running. We will run the ad's of compaines that pay to be posted. Sorry." or something in between. As long as it is closed, and we know what to expect in the future. Some to not mind who AT sells ad space to. Some do. That way, the members ( as consumers ) can decide for themselves if AT is deserving of their hard earned money. everyone has different expectations and standards.
 

Crimson

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: DingDongsSpooey
Jesus Christ dude, it's just a foum on the Internet.


Red Dawn

Posts: 10384
And this is important why?

Seems to me like its kind of ironic that you have 10384 posts, but, "its just a forum on the Internet".. Seems like it takes up a pretty significant part of your life..

Actually, the simplicity of his answer makes it even better.. Score one for BingBongWongFooey, whom you chose to attempt to insult by changing his name in your quote.. I think I stopped doing that when I was 4..
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: DingDongsSpooey
Jesus Christ dude, it's just a foum on the Internet.


Red Dawn

Posts: 10384
And this is important why?

Seems to me like its kind of ironic that you have 10384 posts, but, "its just a forum on the Internet".. Seems like it takes up a pretty significant part of your life..

Actually, the simplicity of his answer makes it even better.. Score one for BingBongWongFooey, whom you chose to attempt to insult by changing his name in your quote.. I think I stopped doing that when I was 4..

DOH!!!
 
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