SMART errors

Goi

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Hi,

I've run a few SMART diagnostics tools on my HDD, and my Raw Read Error Rate, Seek Error Rate, and Hardware ECC Recovered values keep increasing every time I run it. They're already very large values now. However I haven't had any drive failures so far.

Is my drive failing?

Thanks.
 

egale

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At the firs sign of hard drive problems, I replace the drive. It's much easier and cheaper to replace a drive while it is still working then to have it fail and have to go into data recovery mode.

If SMART is giving you errors, I think you are probably safe to assume the drive is starting to fail.
 

Goi

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Thanks. Just needed to make sure as this is for my office PC.
 

n7

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This is when you run the manufacturer's diagnostics...
 

COPOHawk

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Yes...your drive is most likely starting to fail.

BACK UP YOUR DATA...before you do any additional scans.


HTH..
 

StormSide

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If they are seagate drives then those parameters are different than other manufactures. You are most likely looking at the data field which is raw data and not a pure counter. All recent seagates
are like that. As long as smart says its ok you are ok. My drives say the same - after some googling I came to understand that it is not a problem.
 

ElBurro

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agreed with above posts it's best to replace HDD if you are starting to get SMART errors rather then waiting and having the drive completely fail.
 

StormSide

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Originally posted by: ElBurro
agreed with above posts it's best to replace HDD if you are starting to get SMART errors rather then waiting and having the drive completely fail.

He didn't say hey was getting smart errors he said those values were increasing
and like I said above if its a seagate and he is talking about the data field values then that is normal. ....

Please try to get all the facts before you tell the guy to replace his drive ....
 

RebateMonger

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Try Wikipedia's article on SMART.

As noted by others, if there's an indication of a deteriorating hard drive, it's much easier to replace it early than wait for a catastrophic failure. And with today's many backup options, it's crazy to lose any important data to a hard drive failure.
 

ElBurro

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Originally posted by: StormSide
Originally posted by: ElBurro
agreed with above posts it's best to replace HDD if you are starting to get SMART errors rather then waiting and having the drive completely fail.

He didn't say hey was getting smart errors he said those values were increasing
and like I said above if its a seagate and he is talking about the data field values then that is normal. ....

Please try to get all the facts before you tell the guy to replace his drive ....

I suggest you read his post since he said
my Raw Read Error Rate, Seek Error Rate,
 

StormSide

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Originally posted by: ElBurro
Originally posted by: StormSide
Originally posted by: ElBurro
agreed with above posts it's best to replace HDD if you are starting to get SMART errors rather then waiting and having the drive completely fail.

He didn't say hey was getting smart errors he said those values were increasing
and like I said above if its a seagate and he is talking about the data field values then that is normal. ....

Please try to get all the facts before you tell the guy to replace his drive ....

I suggest you read his post since he said
my Raw Read<< Error Rate, Seek<< Error Rate,

Whatever I do my research and try to help.

http://forums.seagate.com/stx/...essage.id=10709#M10709
 

Elixer

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Originally posted by: StormSide
If they are seagate drives then those parameters are different than other manufactures. You are most likely looking at the data field which is raw data and not a pure counter. All recent seagates
are like that. As long as smart says its ok you are ok. My drives say the same - after some googling I came to understand that it is not a problem.

Well, ok is relative.
No matter what drive, or what the numbers say, you should always have a backup of important data on multiple sources.

It is true though, I have seen HDs raw values change constantly, and some of those drives are still working today. Then again, some of the other drives failed.
 

Goi

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Actually it is a Seagate drive.

I've also checked another Seagate drive I have at home, I think it's a 7200.7 or 7200.8. It also has the same problem. Hmm...is there any other diagnostic utility that can tell me for sure if the drive is failing?
 

StormSide

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Originally posted by: Goi
Actually it is a Seagate drive.

I've also checked another Seagate drive I have at home, I think it's a 7200.7 or 7200.8. It also has the same problem. Hmm...is there any other diagnostic utility that can tell me for sure if the drive is failing?

Seagate Seatools

BTW it is not a problem .. Seagate uses those SMART raw data fields differently than other
manufactures.
 
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