Smart Home & Home Automation discussion thread

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RossMAN

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Netgear has an interesting new line of cameras out:

http://www.netgear.com/about/press-releases/2014/01062014-OCUITY-WIRELESS-IP-CAMERAS.aspx

Two new models:

1. Ocuity 100 Wireless IP Camera (720p + 802.11n)
2. Ocuity 500 (same as the 100, but with magnetic mount, built-in backup battery, & "smart" features)



Some cool features:

1. Intercom system (talk & listen via smartphone app) - never had any luck with this feature on my Foscams
2. Magnetic mount, which is actually really cool - I have a Foscam that I use for a baby monitor, so being able to "stick" it somewhere would be great
3. Has a 2-hour battery life (built-in UPS for power outages); I'm curious if this could be used standalone (no A/C plug) for watching your kids in the backyard or something
4. Lots of nifty smarthome features - audio triggers for glass break detection & loud noise triggers, motion detection, etc.

Great timing as I'm seriously considering this primarily for indoor surveillance.

Any word on pricing for either model?
 

luv2liv

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are there products for monitoring old people?
for instance, if mom fell and she cant get up... she can press the button on her necklace and it will alert an email to me through a zwave product?
or maybe heart rate monitor, it will send an alert if heart rate is out of normal range.
i cant find any and i cant believe nobody has made something like this
 

Kaido

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are there products for monitoring old people?
for instance, if mom fell and she cant get up... she can press the button on her necklace and it will alert an email to me through a zwave product?
or maybe heart rate monitor, it will send an alert if heart rate is out of normal range.
i cant find any and i cant believe nobody has made something like this

They have, but they're mostly all commercial solutions. That's a Good Thing, because then you have a company actively monitoring the system, instead of a homemade Rube Goldberg machine that requires a Z-wave pendant, a Z-wave receiver, a Z-wave to Internet interface, Internet service, and an alert system to your smartphone (which means you have to provide both the integration service & the monitoring service yourself). There's easily a dozen commercial systems available, some of which are actually based on Z-wave:

http://www.zwavealliance.org/connected-aging

Although it wouldn't be bad to have a DIY system available. My 90+ grandma just fell recently & was injured; we rotate who is living in-home with her, but still, you're not always home. A personal-alert system (instead of a commercial-alert system) would be ideal in these situations where you have someone live-in or nearby who can help. I think what would be great would be something with Qi wireless charging, where you can just drop it on a plate next to your bed to charge up at night. Something like a basic Timex-style watching with a push-button so it's useful outside of just being an alert system.
 
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I recently wired up my garage door to a RasPi with some relays over the GPIO pins. It works pretty well when paired with Tasker on Android and a web server. I also wired an Arduino with some distance sensors to detect when the doors are open and closed. Its amazing what you can do these days with such cheap hardware.

I did the same thing with an arduino and a GSM shield to send text massages to buzz my buzzer. It is indeed amazing what we can do.
 

Kaido

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Microsoft brings home automation app and devices to the Windows Store:

http://www.engadget.com/2014/05/16/microsoft-bringing-home-automation-app-devices-to-windows-store/

While Google was busy buying Nest for $3.2 billion, the home automation business largely passed Microsoft by. Redmond has now made a move into the booming field, albeit indirectly, via a partnership with home automation specialist Insteon. The pair just announced that an enhanced Insteon app will soon be available on Windows and Windows Phone 8.1 devices. It'll feature multiple, full-screen video feeds, device control, a visitor mode to give limited control to others and Live Tile integration for status updates. In addition, Insteon will sell standalone devices in the Windows Store including a leak sensor, LED bulb and WiFi camera for $30 - $80, with kits starting at $200. Unlike Nest Products or the Philips Hue, Insteon's system uses RF frequency and your home's existing wiring (PowerLine) to communicate with devices. The app will arrive on June 1st, with the devices hitting Windows Stores in July, complete with educational demos and displays.

That's great news - I think that Windows phones are great and utilizing the Live Tile stuff for status updates is a good call.
 

Kaido

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SmartThings brings a truly connected home closer to reality:

http://www.engadget.com/2014/05/21/smartthings-update-certification/

A bit more info on them:

http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/30/smartthings-developer-toolkit/

As a refresher, SmartThings connects a large number of household items -- appliances, automatic door locks, thermostats, humidity sensors, presence sensors, power outlet switches, IR remotes, secret bookcase doors and plenty more -- to a central router which then can be controlled through a smartphone app. Thanks to the openness of the platform, the number of use-case scenarios is rather significant, which certainly makes it more appealing to users. If you're interested in learning how to get started, head below to the press release and go here to get the whole enchilada of information.
 

Kaido

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I searched Home Automation and find this amazing thread, thanks for spending time on this. By the way, I am trying to build a cellphone controlled home appliance via WiFi with SainSmart iMatic WiFi Network I/O Controller Kit , there are a lot to do but at least it gose well so far.I will show you guys when I finish.

Thanks! I added SainSmart to the "Relays" section. Amazing price too - under $50 with Wifi/Ethernet, Arduino/Raspberry Pi, iOS/Android interfaces.
 

Kaido

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A quick note on LED bulbs for those who are looking:

1. Room lights: I recently picked up the new 100w-equivalent soft white LED bulb from Philips. It's available for $20 from Home Depot. The soft white gives it that nice yellow/orange glow instead of the harsh clinical white. The bulb design also does a better job diffusing the light instead of doing the spotlight effect. My older LED bulbs were typically white spotlights, so this is a LOT better. I put this one in a floor lamp & it filled up the room nicely - I am happy with their performance. They also don't weigh a metric ton like the old ones, and aren't too huge. Oh, and they are dimmable. Here's a link:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Philips-...21-Dimmable-LED-Light-Bulb-E-432195/204384620

2. Reading lights: For desk lamps and reading lamps, I have been buying the 60w-equivalent SlimStyle LED lights from Philips, also from Home Depot. These are a flat light (rather than a round lightbulb shape) and give a really nice warm, diffused output for bedside & table lamps. They've been on sale for under $5 at my local Home Depot:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Philips-...19-Dimmable-LED-Light-Bulb-E-433755/204730356

So it's taken a couple years, but I feel that LED bulbs are finally ready for prime-time. The 100w versions work great for overheads, sconces, outdoor entry lamps, and floorstanding lights. The flat SlimStyle bulbs work great for bedside, table, and reading lamps next to chairs. Both fit into the majority of existing fixtures quite well, emit a nicely-diffused light, have a warm glow, and are dimmable.

The only kind I'm waiting for are open-faced bathroom lighting fixtures; I've tried some low-wattage 40w-equivalent frosted bulbs (Cree etc.), but they're still too bright for direct viewing. I have an open lighting fixture kind of like this:

http://i.imgur.com/FWnr5la.jpg
 

Kaido

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These are both UK-based, but the network-capable individual-outlet power-monitoring equipment is growing! (basically a HA-friendly Kill-a-watt)

http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/revi...n-insider-on-the-fibaro-z-wave-wall-plug.html

http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/revi...z88-z-wave-smart-energy-plug-power-meter.html

At some point, I'd really like to see this stuff integrated into a single, deep wall outlet. Ideally:

* (2) 3-prong 15A TRR outlets
* (2) 10w USB ports (optional, but would be super handy!)
* Individual outlet power monitoring (including history for cost & usage averages)
* Individual outlet control (on, off, dim, timer/trigger integration)
* Options: GFCI, 20A

I think Z-wave would pretty much be the route to go for control & communications; INSTEON & X10 aren't super-reliable & Z-wave already has over 1,000 devices available, plus integration in everything from Indigo to Control4.
 

Kaido

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Small bit for Apple fans:

On to HomeKit, Apple's oft-rumored entry into home automation.

Apple's been working with "the leaders" in home automation, to come up with a wireless protocol that lets you pair securely, control individual devices, group devices and control your personal internet of things via Siri, too.

Update:

http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/02/apple-homekit/

We heard it was coming, and here it is: Apple's smart home platform. Taking the stage in sunny San Francisco, Apple's Craig Federighi announced HomeKit: Cupertino's solution for the connected home. Don't expect to pick up a home automation system at your local Apple Store -- the firm's foray into the field a communication standard, not a product. Federighi describes HomeKit as a "common network protocol with secure networking to ensure only your iPhone can open your garage door or unlock your door."

The wireless protocol is designed to securely pair individual or group devices with your mobile device -- and it works with Siri, too. "You could say things like 'get ready for bed,'" Federighi explains, and HomeKit will automatically dim your lights, lock your doors and lower the thermostat. Apple says it's working with "leaders" in home automation to make HomeKit a secure and robust wireless protocol. Hopefully, we'll hear more about the platform soon.

Update:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpJY1W6IIAEM3K0.png:large

* Locks, lights, cameras, doors, thermostats, plugs, switches
* Secure pairing
* Control individual devices
* Group devices into scenes
* Siri integration
 
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Kaido

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I'm not going to add this to the main directory because the reviews all say "wait until version 2", but Quirky + GE has a neat product out called the "Spotter", which is a multi-function wireless sensor that talks to smartphones. It appears to have been pulled from their website:

http://www.quirky.com/shop/609-spotter-multi-purpose-sensor

Although it is still available on Amazon for under $50:

http://www.amazon.com/Quirky-PSPT1-W...dp/B00GN92MTE/

They also have a really neat smartphone-controlled A/C window unit for $300:

http://www.quirky.com/shop/752-aros-smart-window-a-c

Although the reviews aren't too good either:

http://www.amazon.com/Quirky-Aros-Sm...dp/B00IDXGIAC/

Anyway, the Spotter would work perfect for applications like a washer/dryer reminder. I always forget to swap my laundry out, and I forget to set a timer on my smartphone, so it'd be nice to have something easy-to-program to remind me of that.
 

Kaido

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Honeywell's Lyric aims to compete with Nest:

http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/10/honeywell-lyric-thermostat/

$279 in August, or available now through a licensed contractor. Benefits:

* Proximity sensor (screen turns on when you approach, no constant glow)
* Can change temperature based on GPS location of your smartphone
* Maintenance alerts (ex. change out filter, have furnace serviced, etc.)

That. Is. AWESOME!
 

shabby

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* Proximity sensor (screen turns on when you approach, no constant glow)
* Can change temperature based on GPS location of your smartphone
* Maintenance alerts (ex. change out filter, have furnace serviced, etc.)

1. nest has it
2. nest wishes it had it, but im sure google can implement it
3. nest has it

One of the reasons i picked the nest was because it doesn't need the C wire, and can turn the fan on at any time and even schedule when it will turn on. Currently the honeywell wifi thermostat can't do any of these, wonder if the lyric can.
 

Kaido

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1. nest has it
2. nest wishes it had it, but im sure google can implement it
3. nest has it

One of the reasons i picked the nest was because it doesn't need the C wire, and can turn the fan on at any time and even schedule when it will turn on. Currently the honeywell wifi thermostat can't do any of these, wonder if the lyric can.

Ooh, thanks for the clarification, glad to hear some actual user feedback.

I'd really like to see one get support for mini-split ductless systems like the Mitsubishi Mr. Slim system. My buddy has outfitted his house with them & they're amazing, but there's not a really good way to centrally control them in an automated style, at least that I've come across for the DIY'er. He has a multi-family home & each family member has their own heating/cooling unit with a remote control, which works great for them, but not central on/off control right now.
 

Kaido

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Pretty neat sensor device called Wally:

http://www.wallyhome.com/

So the Wally Home system is controlled through a central hub that you link to your network. Then you add sensors that you can monitor via computer or smartphone. They say the battery life is 10 years without battery changes. It appears to use powerline technology for communication. There's a review on Geekwire:

http://www.geekwire.com/2014/review-home-test-wally-water-leak-sensor-network/

Also on a tangent, there's a neat online room designer here:

http://www.roomsketcher.com/

Lets you sketch out floorplan right in the browser in a Lucidchart-style way:

http://planner.roomsketcher.com/
 
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