Smoking Ban

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: Alistar7
I'm still waiting for my mathematical definition of sin and for CycloWizard to prove how a QUESTION can be WRONG.......

You'll be waiting until I actually say either of those things - I doubt I'll prove them until I do. Don't hold your breath.

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: Alistar7
I'm still waiting for my mathematical definition of sin and for CycloWizard to prove how a QUESTION can be WRONG.......

You'll be waiting until I actually say either of those things - I doubt I'll prove them until I do. Don't hold your breath.

You want the links and YOUR direct quotes?

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: Alistar7
You want the links and YOUR direct quotes?

I'd prefer you to learn the usage of the subjunctive case. Then you can post the quotes.

 

[Alistar7]

The religious basis for your objection to homosexual marriage is?????

Intriguing, so it is the act of homosexuality which is the primary objection and sin, therefore the church could not santicfy any marriage compirsed of a homesexual couple. Correct?

So even practicing homosexuality outside of any official union is a sin that must be repented?

What makes it a sin, is it the act itself, or the choice of committing the act?

What is sin? Is man the only creature capable of sin?

would agree the act must be inherently sinful by God, how could practicing it be sinfull if the act itself was not the main moral objection. Practicing it would also be a sin, as man alone has the ability to choose based on moral reasoning. Animals do not have that capacity, they cannot commit acts of sin. They have been preprogrammed by the BIG MAN HIMSELF to follows all the laws of nature, no logical thought or moral values needed.

The problem I have is this:

http://www.bidstrup.com/sodomy.htm

http://www.salon.com/it/featur...03/cov_15featurea.html

Could you explain why it is obviously very natural for homosexuality to occur in hundred of living things besides man, yet your religion has somehow developed this notion it is against His grand design and therefore a sinfull act in its nature, and also by it's choice?


I could mathematically prove you wrong and you would still say 'nice dodge' or 'hahaha you're wrong' or that I'm personally attacking you. Your complete disregard for intelligence and logic force me to question why you are even posting here. Then, I arrive at the obvious truth: you're just another troll out for blood trying to get under my skin because you can't address any issues yourself. CycloWizard

Those were my QUESTIONS which you claimed you could prove wrong MATHEMATICALLY, the original thread is here:

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...AR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

Let's start with the most intriguing aspect of this, how can any question can be proven wrong?

Now answer those questions mathematically, starting with the definition of sin.

That enough to jar your memory? Isn't it GREAT that even when you "forget" some of the things you have said here they are still able to be found and reviewed. Want a now?

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: Alistar7
...

As I said, learn the subjunctive case. Realize what the words 'could' and 'would' mean when used as I used them. Realize that I never made any of the arguments that you're questioning. Realize that posting PMs is supposedly a bannable offense, yet you weren't banned for doing so. If you want to continue with this jackassery, feel free. If you would rather contribute substantially to the discussion at hand, I would like to encourage that. I could care less about you trying to assassinate my character on some internet forum. My credibility comes from my arguments if anything, not someone's perception of me as viewed through the internet.

 

[Alistar7]

Hurry up, I can't hold my breath much longer.......

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: Alistar7
...

As I said, learn the subjunctive case. Realize what the words 'could' and 'would' mean when used as I used them. Realize that I never made any of the arguments that you're questioning. Realize that posting PMs is supposedly a bannable offense, yet you weren't banned for doing so. If you want to continue with this jackassery, feel free. If you would rather contribute substantially to the discussion at hand, I would like to encourage that. I could care less about you trying to assassinate my character on some internet forum. My credibility comes from my arguments if anything, not someone's perception of me as viewed through the internet.

You said COULD, if you CAN"T so be it, doesn't make me look like the moron. Your comments are frozen forever here so theres no need to continue denying them as you have twice now so far.

I was not banned BTW, I was given a vacation as were you, maybe someday you will realize why yours was so light, your welcome BTW. I'm not trying to assassinate your character, you seem to do a fine job all by yourself. I'm just pointing out your idiocy and giving you a chance to back up your claims. Your credibility is based on your arguements? Doesn't say much about your credibility then does it......

 

[Alistar7]

I'll make it easy on you, just define sin with mathematics and I'll believe whatever other garbage you post here.......

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: Alistar7
Hurry up, I can't hold my breath much longer.......

I would think such a highly educated person such as yourself would be able to remember the mathematical formula that defines sin, especially considering your self proclaimed expertise on your religion.

 

[CycloWizard]

I could ... and you would still

Your reading comprehension and/or understanding of the facets of the English language are pitiful. If you think this makes me look stupid, I wouldn't hold your breath on that either. Given the above sentence, I can only arrive at the use of the subjunctive case, which is hypothetical language. Figure it out on your own.

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

I could ... and you would still

Your reading comprehension and/or understanding of the facets of the English language are pitiful. If you think this makes me look stupid, I wouldn't hold your breath on that either. Given the above sentence, I can only arrive at the use of the subjunctive case, which is hypothetical language. Figure it out on your own.

I've figured you out, so has Vic and many others, here you go down your typical routine AGAIN. Face it, you made those comments and are now backtracking like Clinton over petty semantics, pathetic.

You COULD prove me wrong, but CAN"t because it is IMPOSSIBLE. A question can't be wrong, and you can't answer those questions with mathematics. That's right YOU can't, otherwise you would leap at the chance to prove me wrong and make yourself feel intelligent.

"When that blew up it fell back on your elitism. Finally, unable to admit that you have nothing left, you're attacking me for trying to impose "my ignorance" on you, and wrapping all your many degrees around you, all the while reneging on your bet" - VIC

Yup, you did the same thing again, such a bad cycle you seem to have fallen in, you need to correct that if possible. It's like reading a book you have many times before.......

Feel free to back up your claims ANYTIME.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: mwtgg

Originally posted by: piasabird
It is child abuse to smoke around children.

If there is anything we could do for the children, this is it.

Nothing good can come from smoking; it has absolutely no redeeming value.

Always for the children, eh? Ban this... why you ask? Oh for the children. It's a sorry excuse for anything.

My mom smoked around me, she didn't smoke while she was pregnant, but when I was born, she started up again. Am I fine? You're damn right I'm fine. Am I lucky that I don't have respiratory problems? Maybe, who knows.

86% of all children who have a mom that smokes during pregnancy have some sort of homosexual experiences.

It is not very strange since smoking lowers the release of ALL hormones in the female body, except for cortisol.

In the studies where hormone levels were registered, 100% of the mothers were smokers, 100% of the moms had unusual levels of free cortisol in their bloodstreams (not strange since cortisol is the bodies natural response to traumatic harmful events, like smoking, and 100% produced lower amounts of nandrolone (nor testosterone) which has shown to be directly linked to homosexuality in males.

Let's just say that i would rather not sleep in the same bed as you.

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

I could ... and you would still

Your reading comprehension and/or understanding of the facets of the English language are pitiful. If you think this makes me look stupid, I wouldn't hold your breath on that either. Given the above sentence, I can only arrive at the use of the subjunctive case, which is hypothetical language. Figure it out on your own.

I've figured you out, so has Vic and many others, here you go down your typical routine AGAIN. Face it, you made those comments and are now backtracking like Clinton over petty semantics, pathetic.

You COULD prove me wrong, but CAN"t because it is IMPOSSIBLE. A question can't be wrong, and you can't answer those questions with mathematics. That's right YOU can't, otherwise you would leap at the chance to prove me wrong and make yourself feel intelligent.

"When that blew up it fell back on your elitism. Finally, unable to admit that you have nothing left, you're attacking me for trying to impose "my ignorance" on you, and wrapping all your many degrees around you, all the while reneging on your bet" - VIC

Yup, you did the same thing again, such a bad cycle you seem to have fallen in, you need to correct that if possible. It's like reading a book you have many times before.......

If you had even bothered to look up what the word subjunctive means, you'd realize why I used 'could' and 'would' instead of 'can' and 'will.' It's to point out that regardless of whether or not someone proved you wrong beyond any doubt, you would still persist in your belief that you are right, so I'm not going to waste my time trying to prove anything to you. This discussion is a perfect example of the point I was making in that thread. Thanks for proving my point.

 

[Alistar7]

Still trapped in that tired old routine where you come out looking ignorant, thanks again for proving everyones else point about you, including mine.


At least the other trolls here can make a valid entertaining case without losing their mind and spouting off something that's not even possible. It's there in the record, deny it all you want.

Why did you use those terms? Not for the reason you are trying to state now, this was your reasoining behind that specific choice of word(s):


"I could mathematically prove you wrong andyou would still say 'nice dodge' or 'hahaha you're wrong' or that I'm personally attacking you.

Nice dodge, thanks again for attacking me personally, BTW you still COUDLN'T prove me (or any question for that matter) wrong.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: broon

Originally posted by: cquark

Originally posted by: broon
I see this issue the same as many see abortion. Don't tell me what to do with my body.

The two aren't equivalent at all. Smoking around other people is analogous to aborting your neighbor's baby, not your own.

They are the same when it comes to this thread topic. Besides, the second hand smoke argument is old and not factual.

Um, wrong... My ex-wife had athsma related breathing problems when she lived with her smoking mother. It was bad enough that she had to use a "breather" on occasion - always at home. Once she moved out of Mom's place and into a smoke free home she never had a breathing problem again. Coincidence? I think not...

 

[DouglasAdams]

the bottom line is that no children should be subjected to smoking and therefore any smoking ban should start "whereever children may be present". this must include, but not be limited to, school playgrounds, sporting facilities, etc.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: DouglasAdams
the bottom line is that no children should be subjected to smoking and therefore any smoking ban should start "whereever children may be present". this must include, but not be limited to, school playgrounds, sporting facilities, etc.

school playgrounds I would agree as it is on "campus" however if you were to say public parks where a playground is present then I would wholeheartedly disagree....if you were to do this then you would also have to re route all traffic for at least a ten block radius around said park...something I wouldn't see happening.

 

[Alistar7]

Thanks for the PM with the definition of subjunctive Cyclowizard, along with your routine attack of my intelligence as opposed to yours. Your continued ASSumptions about others are very revealing about your true level of intellect. Your mind while somehwat educated is incredibly soft, brainwashed by a religion and as easy to read as a book.

One last time, I know you said you "could", not that you "would", and I know the difference between "can" and "will". That being said I challenge you to prove your statements.

 

[Alistar7]

Cyclowizard you can stop your petty game of semantics, it reminds me of someone who said "it all depends on what your definition of "is" is...."

You COULDN'T prove any QUESTION wrong, you CAN'T answer any of those questions with mathematics. Just so all bases are covered, you COULDN'T, WOULDN'T, CAN'T, and WON'T, because it is impossible, nothing more than another flat out wrong statement you made that you denied, backpedaled on, and continue to ignore.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Alistar7
Cyclowizard you can stop your petty game of semantics, it reminds me of someone who said "it all depends on what your definition of "is" is...."

You COULDN'T prove any QUESTION wrong, you CAN'T answer any of those questions with mathematics. Just so all bases are covered, you COULDN'T, WOULDN'T, CAN'T, and WON'T, because it is impossible, nothing more than another flat out wrong statement you made that you denied, backpedaled on, and continue to ignore.

Dude, seriously, don't bother with him. You'll save yourself lots of wasted mental energy if you just learn to ignore him. I know, I know, it's hard, but just trust me on this one.

 

[Yo Ma Ma]

Originally posted by: DouglasAdams
the bottom line is that no children should be subjected to smoking and therefore any smoking ban should start "whereever children may be present". this must include, but not be limited to, school playgrounds, sporting facilities, etc.

I see.. but what about in their own home, where they spend lots of time, especially in the early years? Ban smoking in the home? And if so how shall we enforce said banning, someone from the government breaking down the door to make sure you are aren't puffing one with the wee lads or lassies in the vicinity? Is this the country you'd like to live in?

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: Alistar7
Cyclowizard you can stop your petty game of semantics, it reminds me of someone who said "it all depends on what your definition of "is" is...."

You COULDN'T prove any QUESTION wrong, you CAN'T answer any of those questions with mathematics. Just so all bases are covered, you COULDN'T, WOULDN'T, CAN'T, and WON'T, because it is impossible, nothing more than another flat out wrong statement you made that you denied, backpedaled on, and continue to ignore.

Alistar7, you are wasting your time.

Unless it is about one cell organisms being human, which he believes, that should tell you something about how far gone that fvcker is.

Damn i need some tequila and some wenches!

 

[Alistar7]

It is never a waste of time to make it very clear how wrong someone is IF they can't admit it themselves. I'm only trying to help the poor guy out and point out some minor mistakes he made that make him look, well, foolish would be taking it easy. The truly sad part is he so insecure about his own intellect that he feels the need to state how smart he is compared to everyone else. Oh well, let him on thinking he COULD define "sin" with a mathematical formula or prove how a question could be wrong......

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: Alistar7
It is never a waste of time to make it very clear how wrong someone is IF they can't admit it themselves. I'm only trying to help the poor guy out and point out some minor mistakes he made that make him look, well, foolish would be taking it easy. The truly sad part is he so insecure about his own intellect that he feels the need to state how smart he is compared to everyone else. Oh well, let him on thinking he COULD define "sin" with a mathematical formula or prove how a question could be wrong......

Where did DonVito go? Maybe he could tell you how the subjunctive case is used. Maybe you'd read what he had to say. He's a lawyer - he ought to know.

 

[Taejin]

smoking is a harmful, useless habit people cling to because they can't control their own mind.

ban it.