Smoking bans for private businesses

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Murloc

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in many european countries like mine it's forbidden to smoke in bars and restaurants.
I really love it.
Smokers just got used to it, and smoke outside or reduce their addiction.
Combined with increased taxes on cigarettes it's helping everyone.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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Maybe she doesn't care. No one is forcing her to work there, there are plenty of other jobs without smoking.

you are out of touch. No sense in even continuing a conversation with you. You probably smoke around babies you fucking twat.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
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No you stop the smoking. A single mom with 2 kids will sit in a smoke filled room for 60 hours a week and smile. You people are fucking retarded.

You realize your views are correct in a socialist/communist country.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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You realize your views are correct in a socialist/communist country.

Dur derrr dumb dee doo.

fucking idiots. Im sure you are all old men sitting around on the government tit all day long complaining about da commies. fucking lol.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
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you are out of touch. No sense in even continuing a conversation with you. You probably smoke around babies you fucking twat.

Their parent's should be the ones to remove their babies from that environment if in a private place that allows smoking.

I love the parents out at 2 am with kids in a stroller that come up to the bar demanding everyone acknowledge they have babies with them.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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Their parent's should be the ones to remove their babies from that environment if in a private place that allows smoking.

I love the parents out at 2 am with kids in a stroller that come up to the bar demanding everyone acknowledge they have babies with them.

Yes your straw man happens ALL the time!!

You cant smoke inside a bar or restaurant. Because its harmful to the health of the employee. Just like you cant do a ton of other things OSHA says you cant in a work enviroment because its harmful to employees.
 

xj0hnx

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you are out of touch. No sense in even continuing a conversation with you. You probably smoke around babies you fucking twat.

Very out of touch with your Nanny Statism, and anti-freedom rhetoric, yes, very out of touch in deed. Nope, I don't even smoke in my own house, but the thought of all the little veins in your forehead popping up because someone doing something you don't like gets you all foamy at the mouth is hilarious.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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Very out of touch with your Nanny Statism, and anti-freedom rhetoric, yes, very out of touch in deed. Nope, I don't even smoke in my own house, but the thought of all the little veins in your forehead popping up because someone doing something you don't like gets you all foamy at the mouth is hilarious.

anti-freedom lol. Whatever old man. Soon you will be dead and nobody will have to listen to your retarded views.
 

zsdersw

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I could rebut point by point, but this one illustrates a problem you have with false claims.

You say I think smoking is a crime. I don't and I didn't say I did.

I advocated making it illegal somewhere down the road - I did not say it is now.

It's interesting that you say one thing in one sentence and then the exact opposite in another. Why should it be made illegal, at any point down the road?

Then, you add a candidate for irony of the week, by making the mistake you wrongly say I made - contrary to your claim, much sexual harassment is NOT a crime.

Indeed, the phrase sexual harassment is usually not used if it's a crime, going to sexual assault.

Instances in which there is a prosecutable act are what I was referring to. There is a lot of gray area with "sexual harassment", and a lot of false accusations and misinterpretation, but that doesn't matter for the purposes of this discussion. Nice try at side-stepping the issue, though.

You don't get the proper role of government to help ensure worker protections on a variety of issue, with your ideological, unworkable fantasy position.

You say things have gotten better - but have no idea why they did.

That is not the government's role... unless you throw out the Constitution, which is something you have a very easy time doing.
 
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matt0611

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Yes your straw man happens ALL the time!!

You cant smoke inside a bar or restaurant. Because its harmful to the health of the employee. Just like you cant do a ton of other things OSHA says you cant in a work enviroment because its harmful to employees.

So someone can't have a bar that allows smoking in which all the employees know that there will be smoke there and all the people go there knowing its a smoking bar and all consent to being there because...its harmful to them, the people who CHOOSE to be there.

Nanny state liberals are fucking pathetic. God forbid anyone make any choices in this world.
 

Amused

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Yes your straw man happens ALL the time!!

You cant smoke inside a bar or restaurant. Because its harmful to the health of the employee. Just like you cant do a ton of other things OSHA says you cant in a work enviroment because its harmful to employees.

So no one can take assumed and consenting risks???
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Dur derrr dumb dee doo.

fucking idiots. Im sure you are all old men sitting around on the government tit all day long complaining about da commies. fucking lol.

No actually I am a young at heart man.

I like to go out and drive, fuck women, drink, listen to music loud, I don't smoke regularly, but I have on occasion.

I believe in free business...If I want to make a place that allows one to have open sex, smoke, drink, drive at speeds unsafe, etc...I should be able to.

Like I said your beliefs are valid, but if you really want the outcome you should just move to where it's instituted. They'd welcome you.

The problem lies in most want to keep the freedoms they hold as valuable and then realize it's not what the 'masses' want.
 

piasabird

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Feb 6, 2002
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What is a private business??

Most businesses are designed around commerce with the public. What about the USA Citizens who work at this so-called private business? Dont they deserve to be protected?
 

zsdersw

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What is a private business??

Most businesses are designed around commerce with the public. What about the USA Citizens who work at this so-called private business? Dont they deserve to be protected?

They can protect themselves by not working where they're exposed to things they don't want to be exposed to.
 

bamacre

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I once worked for a complete asshole. I didn't like it, so I quit and found another job. Clearly the better option would be for government to ban assholes from employing people.
 

zsdersw

Lifer
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I once worked for a complete asshole. I didn't like it, so I quit and found another job. Clearly the better option would be for government to ban assholes from employing people.

Yes, and there should be congressional committees that find out who assholes are. A federal Department of Asshole Suppression (with branch offices in each state) would be a good idea too.. just to be safe.
 
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