Smoking should be outlawed!

[GT1999]

I can't stand smoke - I try to avoid people who smoke anything of any kind. It disgusts me.

 

[Soybomb]

So you're telling people they can't smoke? How about making it a law for when they've had enough food. Actually I don't care too much since I don't smoke ciggy's but only a nice cigar now and then. Cigars can be quite nice too even if you don't like cigarette smoke...

 

[Prodigy^]

I don't think it should be outlawed, people should just learn to respect other people a little more, and smoking should be allowed in fewer places - rules which are being set in place at a nice pace atm I think, at least in my country.

 

[Wuming]

outlawing it will prob cause a revolution!

don't think we can ever do that. it's just like prostituition.... humand desires cannot be suppressed by force without causing pain.

 

[Harvey]

I am really tired of watching good friends die from it. Haven't seen it in real time for ... oh... about three weeks, now. :|

I spent a lovely Christmas, a few years ago, watching a friend of thirty years pull his last breath. :|

The University of California just announced that they will be posting on the web some formerly secret tobacco company documents showing that they considered kids their pool for replacement customers. I guess they have to when they keep killing their old ones :|

I think every tobacco exec for the last fifty years strengthens the arguement for retroactive birth control. Fsck 'em, whether they can take a joke, or not! :|

 

[KrackerJack]

Stop smoking...
Truth.com
Kracker

 

[yakko]

Harvey,

Kids are the replacment pool for all products. Why did your friends smoke if it was bad for them? Didn't they know that inhaling smoke would cause problems? Didn't you try blaming companies before for the choices your friends made? Whatever happened to people being responsible for their own actions? You smoke, you get sick and you die, you should have never started in the first place. Since you did don't come whining to me because I chose not to smoke to avoid the health risks.



Edit- Truth.com is a joke. Once again trying to make companies responsible for the choices people make.

 

[datalink7]

I don't believe that smoking should be outlawed, just maybe restrictions placed upon it. It is bad for you, and many of the CEO's are immoral people. There was an internal memo that got out. It was from one CEO to another in a different company. It read "Lets put more nicotine in 'em, that aught to get the little bastards."

Of cource, a lot of the blame can, and should be, placed on the individual that chooses to smoke. But the CEO's aren't totally blameless either.

 

[8ball]

yakko-
Everything you just said is true. That's what I've been trying to say. Instead of suing the companies, make the product illegal.
(I really don't think it should be illegal. I'm just tired of everyone blaming the maker for the user's actions)

 

[yakko]

8ball,

Don't make it illegal, make people responsible for their actions.

 

[Pastore]

Second hand smoke kills more people every year than car accidents do... if this wasnt true, then i would say smoke til your hearts content, but.......

 

[Frenchie]

I'm with Harvey on this one. I have absolutely no sympathy for the tobacco companies or their market. Thanks to the cancer causing products they sell, I never got to know either of my grandfathers.


Lawyers. Candy. These should all be outlawed.

Outlaw lawyers? It takes lawyers to outlaw something. Really gonna think they are gonna outlaw themselves? Go read some Shakespeare, and see what he thought on that subject.

 

[yakko]

Frenchie,

So you are saying that the tobacco companies forced your grandfathers to smoke? Wow! I never knew they used to do that. I thought your grandfathers made the choice to smoke themselves like every other smoker in the world.

 

[Weyoun]

Put it this way, if people were the government's No.1 priority, then smoking would be banned full stop. Obviously money's the critical part of teh equation here, people's bodies and minds are now up for sale on the market...

 

[Shalmanese]

a person is generally intelligent

people are genrally stupid.

saying that everything we do is our own responsibility EVERY time is not true, we cant choose where we recieve information from when there is only a limited source of information, It is our responsibility however to make the best possible choice given the current information. If frenchies grandfathers smoked because the tobacco companies said that smoking was not addictive and not harmful then I think a large part of the blame would fall on tobbacco companies but if there were common sources that were saying that tobbacco is harmful and they were commonly available then blame would also fall on the users shoulders.

I think that what tobbacco companies are did in the 50's is similar to what the catholic church did in the middle ages by restricting information, they can control what the public believes

 

[Frenchie]

yakko:

Did they force them? Yes and no. They lied about the addictive properties and about the consequences of smoking. It is called misrepresentation. Intentional, criminal, fraudulent. THey are no better than the local drug dealer.

 

[yakko]

No matter what anyone says if you think that inhaling smoke at any time for prolonged periods will not harm you then you are a moron. My grandfather never smoked and he was presented with the same information. He did not smoke because he made the CHOICE not to.

 

[Frenchie]

smoke at any time for prolonged periods will not harm you then you are a moron

Sure, it stands to reason that inhaling smoke isnt good for you. But, the companies never released the data that they had about the carcinogenic effect or the tar levels. Smoke v. smoke and tar and cancer....two different things. Bad choice? Yep. Fully informed choice? Nope.

 

[yakko]

Still their choice though.

 

[Frenchie]

Yep. No proverbial gun to their head. Of course, it is an uninformed choice. And once you choose to start, you may then become addicted to the most addictive substance known to man. I dont recall seeing that warning on the label. May have missed it though.

 

[yakko]

<< the most addictive substance known to man >>


How so? It couldn't be that addictive because I tried it once and didn't like it. I don't smoke cigarettes because I didn't like them. If I had kept smoking it would have been my choice so I would be responsible for my actions.



<< Smoke v. smoke and tar and cancer....two different things. >>


Even if there was no tar at all smoking would cause problems in some people just like it does now. Also since it doesn't give everyone cancer you can't say that if an individual had not smoked he would not have gotten cancer. There are other mitigating factors that determine whether someone will get cancer or not. Like I said the people nade the choice so they pay the price for their choice.

 

[Harvey]

yakko -- << Why did your friends smoke if it was bad for them? Didn't they know that inhaling smoke would cause problems? Didn't you try blaming companies before for the choices your friends made? >>

PISS UP A ROPE!!! :|

I'm fifty-nine years old. I have never smoked, but when I and most of my friends were kids, movies, radio and TV shows regularly showed their leading characters smoking. Of course, we didn't know that these product placements were paid for by the tobacco companies. We just saw the images. :Q

There were also radio, and TV ads promoting the health &quot;benefits&quot; of one brand over another. Did you know that more &quot;doctors&quot; prefer Brand A than any other cigarette? This was before any health warnings were issued by anyone. When they finally did start to appear, we were told that Brand B's new Kryptonite filter traps more tar and nicotine than any other filter, leaving only the refreshing flavor. Uh-huh! :|

There were plenty of magazine ads showing young, healthy people &quot;enjoying&quot; their cigarettes. There were (and are) thinner cigarettes that are supposed to be &quot;feminine.&quot; :Q

As kids, my friends had no protection against that onslaught. Your lame idea of personal responsiblity utterly meaningless in the context of huge companies knowingly working to addict children. It is equally stupid to assign that responsiblity to their parents, who, as a prior generation, were at least as uninformed as their kids. By your standards, we don't need bank insurance. We should just blame ourselves for trusting the safety of the institution if we put our money in an account and lose it if the bank gets robbed. :|

Lastly, regardless of whether people should be responsible for their own actions, tobacco companies must be held responsible for theirs. They were, and are, out for nothing but greed at the expense of whoever they manage to entrap!

For that, they should DIE!!! :|

 

[DannyLove]

i like having a few ciggs here and there......

 

[FrogDog]

Man, smoking must be REALLY addictive, because as I see it, there's not one single benefit to doing it. You're paying for cancer and an early grave...I just don't get it.

 

[yakko]

<< PISS UP A ROPE!!! >>


You seem a little bitter. You should work on that since stress can lead to heart failure which does not benefit a whole lot of people. Like I said if anyone ever thought that inhaling smoke was good for them then they are MORONS. Since you mentioned it why didn't you smoke? You were exposed to the same information as your friends. Did you not make that CHOICE to smoke?