BenSkywalker
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Not to be a stickler here, but you still aren't refuting my point. I said we still aren't going to see an integrated solution until the end of next year. Icera was likely working on LTE chips, which is really nothing new (and didn't require nVidia to buy them), but including an LTE baseband on die means it's an entirely separate SKU from Wayne (which is why it's being released much later).
I assume it's only a matter of time until Apple and Samsung are building their own LTE basebands as I'm sure Samsung hated using the Snapdragon S4 in the American Galaxy S III, whereas the MDM9615 IP block was already in MSM8960, and Apple had to wait for MDM9615 before shipping the iPhone 5. No company wants to be willingly caught in such a vice grip.
Looking forward to Shield, if they can achieve the 199 or 249 price point, I will be buying one.Probably get some later today when other companies have their own wares up for display, or perhaps nVidia will have Shield kicking around at their booth so people can play around with it, maybe drop us a couple of benchmarks.
what looks promising to me is the "nVidia Shield" announcement. That looks cool and promising.
Thing that I don't like about it is not the hardware. We need some real games for android for it to be worth it. I mean serious titles from big console or PC gaming studios. Not time wasters for free or $.99 without ads. We need some real killer titles to compete with the DS and Vita. The streaming games from steam thing sounds dumb to me when you are required to be on the same local network as your PC. If I have to be in my house to stream PC games why wouldn't I just play on my PC with a mouse for fps games and a Xbox controller for action games? Especially when I could be playing at 2560x1440. I don't even want to think about the input lag and such.
So from a streaming standpoint I think it won't be special but if studios step it up and start releasing titles to rival those offered on the vita and ds but tailored for the shield, it could have serious potential.
Thing that I don't like about it is not the hardware. We need some real games for android for it to be worth it. I mean serious titles from big console or PC gaming studios. Not time wasters for free or $.99 without ads. We need some real killer titles to compete with the DS and Vita.
I am wondering which will have more legs, The Shield project or the OUYA project since they cater to almost the same audience although the hardware aspect and more functionality favors nVidia.
I think Shield just killed OUYA. Shield is where all the professional level developers will go, where the marketing dollars will go, and what people will see on the shelves at stores.
I don't think either will have any long term success, but I'd bet on the Ouya doing better. Shield seems overly gimmicky and incredibly niche, where as the Ouya is a much simpler conceptually, will probably be a lot less expensive, and have a broader market to target. Also, Shield streams over WiFi, which is probably going to result in a substandard experience for a lot of people.
Thing that I don't like about it is not the hardware. We need some real games for android for it to be worth it. I mean serious titles from big console or PC gaming studios. Not time wasters for free or $.99 without ads. We need some real killer titles to compete with the DS and Vita. The streaming games from steam thing sounds dumb to me when you are required to be on the same local network as your PC. If I have to be in my house to stream PC games why wouldn't I just play on my PC with a mouse for fps games and a Xbox controller for action games? Especially when I could be playing at 2560x1440. I don't even want to think about the input lag and such.
So from a streaming standpoint I think it won't be special but if studios step it up and start releasing titles to rival those offered on the vita and ds but tailored for the shield, it could have serious potential.
I think out of the two Shield will be more successful because they are more likely to draw in the bigger devs.
No one is going to specifically develop for it. It just plays the PC version of the game. I don't think many people are going to specifically develop for Ouya either. They'll just port their already existing Android phone/tablet version of the game to work with it.
Shield basically gives you a console experience if you don't have a console. You could already do that if you hooked up your PC to the TV. Of course, if you already can get the PC experience, I don't know why you'd want to go with anything else.
Honestly, I think Shield is more of a showcase of nVidia hardware than it is anything that serves an actual use. But given that I don't expect either of these to make a big impact, Shield could very well be "more successful" than the Ouya.
The streaming games from steam thing sounds dumb to me when you are required to be on the same local network as your PC.
I do understand what you mean about controls, but if you keep your gaming to some of the games that are designed around controllers (Steam now denotes this), it should be much better.
Hmm, wonder if you could use that micro USB port to connect a keyboard and mouse. It is an Android device after all.