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alkemyst

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Yea that'd be a nightmare to code and make accurate considering it'd need to be dynamic and calculate based on inventory in all Amazon warehouses, where specifically the item you want is, where you're shipping it to, what method of shipping and the average delivery time from that warehouse to your local hub. Just a lot of variables to consider.

Amazon knows what item is where and what quantity dynamically.

This is already in their codebase.
 

nageov3t

Lifer
Feb 18, 2004
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FYI, ever 24 hours clock is the same. There is never a : in it.

But good try.

no, you're pretty much completely wrong as far as I can tell.

A time of day is written in the 24-hour notation in the form hh:mm (for example 01:23) or hh:mm:ss (for example, 01:23:45), where hh (00 to 23) is the number of full hours that have passed since midnight, mm (00 to 59) is the number of full minutes that have passed since the last full hour, and ss (00 to 59) is the number of seconds since the last full minute. In the case of a leap second, the value of ss may extend to 60. A leading zero is added for numbers under 10. This zero is optional for the hours, but very commonly used in computer applications, where many specifications require it (for example, ISO 8601).

Where subsecond resolution is required, the seconds can be a decimal fraction, that is, the fractional part follows a decimal dot or comma, as in 01:23:45.678. The most commonly used separator symbol between hours, minutes and seconds is the colon, which is also the symbol used in ISO 8601. In the past, some European countries used the dot on the line as a separator, but most national standards on time notation have since then been changed to the international standard colon. In some contexts (e.g., U.S. military, some computer protocols), no separator is used (e.g., 2359).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24-hour_clock
 

Rakehellion

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Hey now... if you order something on December 10th, it shouldn't matter what shipping method you use to get it there by the 23rd unless you live in Alaska or something. Instead of trying to upsell me on a shipping upgrade I obviously didn't need, they should be honest and say something like:

"There is a 98% chance your package will arrive before Christmas. If you want to upgrade that to 99.5%, upgrade to 2 day shipping.

There's really no way to calculate all of that accurately. And when you're paying for a service you don't want a "70%" guarantee, you want your item. That's the kind of lotrery where everyone loses.
 
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rockyct

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Yeah, this shipment has to be specially arranged, possibly via drop ship and probably from a local freight type carrier. I doubt this is coming UPS. They probably don't have as much control over local carriers so they probably are paying them more to have a guaranteed Christmas delivery. Keep in mind there are only four more delivery days until Christmas after today and that includes Christmas Eve.
 

Ackmed

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Oct 1, 2003
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no, you're pretty much completely wrong as far as I can tell.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24-hour_clock

You own quote proves you wrong;

The most commonly used separator symbol between hours, minutes and seconds is the colon, which is also the symbol used in ISO 8601. In the past, some European countries used the dot on the line as a separator, but most national standards on time notation have since then been changed to the international standard colon. In some contexts (e.g., U.S. military, some computer protocols), no separator is used (e.g., 2359).

There is no semi colon, it's just 2313, like the time is here for me right now. Not 23:13. Now, if using a 12 hours clock, then yes there is a colon. It would be 11:13 PM.

Again, good try! But I'm done derailing this thread. You're wrong, move on. I'm done looking and posting in the thread.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Yesterday one of my friends overseas wired me some money to get the most obnoxious dollhouse I could find for my daughter for Christmas.
Looked around and amazon was the cheapest. I have prime shipping and figured it would not be a problem ordering so close to Christmas. Still 5 business days left.

Amazon stated that in order to get it before Christmas, I needed to upgrade to 1 day shipping. Ok, fine. I spent the $25 (dollhouse weighs some 90 pounds) and received my order confirmation that stated the estimated delivery is 12/24.

This morning I received an update stating the package is out for delivery today and will arrive before 20:00.

Looks like amazon decided to make a little extra profit on this one and charge me the additional $25. Not that big a deal, but annoying nonetheless that they used scare tactics when they clearly could have allowed the 2 day prime shipping to get the item to me well before Christmas Eve.

Yeah I'm sure Amazon is making out like a bandit on that one, because overnight shipping is free for them.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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You own quote proves you wrong;



There is no semi colon, it's just 2313, like the time is here for me right now. Not 23:13. Now, if using a 12 hours clock, then yes there is a colon. It would be 11:13 PM.

Again, good try! But I'm done derailing this thread. You're wrong, move on. I'm done looking and posting in the thread.

The real answer is 24 hour time may not have the colon in condensed format.

ISO 8601 is 22:30
French is 23 h 30
Military is officially 2230
dot format is 22.30
 

uclabachelor

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Yesterday one of my friends overseas wired me some money to get the most obnoxious dollhouse I could find for my daughter for Christmas.
Looked around and amazon was the cheapest. I have prime shipping and figured it would not be a problem ordering so close to Christmas. Still 5 business days left.

Amazon stated that in order to get it before Christmas, I needed to upgrade to 1 day shipping. Ok, fine. I spent the $25 (dollhouse weighs some 90 pounds) and received my order confirmation that stated the estimated delivery is 12/24.

This morning I received an update stating the package is out for delivery today and will arrive before 20:00.

Looks like amazon decided to make a little extra profit on this one and charge me the additional $25. Not that big a deal, but annoying nonetheless that they used scare tactics when they clearly could have allowed the 2 day prime shipping to get the item to me well before Christmas Eve.

First world problems.
 

Dumac

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Ordering for Christmas? This item requires additional time to ship. To ensure delivery by December 24, choose Two-Day Shipping at checkout.

Huh....
 

Dumac

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You own quote proves you wrong;



There is no semi colon, it's just 2313, like the time is here for me right now. Not 23:13. Now, if using a 12 hours clock, then yes there is a colon. It would be 11:13 PM.

Again, good try! But I'm done derailing this thread. You're wrong, move on. I'm done looking and posting in the thread.

Holy shit your reading comprehension is appallingly low.
 

ultimatebob

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There's really no way to calculate all of that accurately. And when you're paying for a service you don't want a "70%" guarantee, you want your item. That's the kind of lotrery where everyone loses.

Ok... instead of percentages, why not word it like this:

"Your package has a pretty good chance of making it by Christmas, but we can't be certain. Upgrade to 2 day shipping for on time * delivery."

Then, you add fine print at the bottom of the screen:

* We can't 100% guarantee that your package will arrive on time due to weather or Acts Of God. But we'll try our best to make it happen."
 

Wreckem

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Ordered a 23lb wench early in the year and it was $4 next day. Same wench now is $12 next day. Merry Christmas.

Its almost certainly because of people like me, I am sure there were plenty of others who did what I did. Ordering weights and other extremely heavy items and using next day air because you could and only be charged the old.
 

highland145

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Its almost certainly because of people like me, I am sure there were plenty of others who did what I did. Ordering weights and other extremely heavy items and using next day air because you could and only be charged the old.
April vs December....almost certainly.


I could be wrong.
 

ultimatebob

Lifer
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As for guaranteed by xmas stuff. UPS has giant backlog of packages.

Yeah, it's amazing to see what UPS distribution centers look like this time of year. They have to bring in Budget and Penske rental trucks to handle the extra volume!
 

Rakehellion

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"Your package has a pretty good chance of making it by Christmas, but we can't be certain. Upgrade to 2 day shipping for on time * delivery."

That's what they currently do. Give a shipping estimate, and say if you order by 4pm and choose 2-day shipping, you'll get it by a certain date.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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How old is the daughter, looks like a great young girl doll house to me!

Good Lord, it's a piece of crap that costs $234 not to mention, the additional cost to ship on time. Doll houses used to be made of wood, painted and, sometimes gilded.
I'd be less worried about the cost to ship and more that someone from Sweden would find out how I spent their money.
 

highland145

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Good Lord, it's a piece of crap that costs $234 not to mention, the additional cost to ship on time. Doll houses used to be made of wood, painted and, sometimes gilded.
I'd be less worried about the cost to ship and more that someone from Sweden would find out how I spent their money.
Finding some bored local guy that would do it for pennies would be best.

Used to be=people don't know how or...China...
 

taserbro

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Good Lord, it's a piece of crap that costs $234 not to mention, the additional cost to ship on time. Doll houses used to be made of wood, painted and, sometimes gilded.
I'd be less worried about the cost to ship and more that someone from Sweden would find out how I spent their money.

Completely agreed.
For 235usd, this looks like a few pieces of laminated cardboard printed with clipart and injection-molded plastic pieces painted brightly to distract away from the fact it cost maybe 30usd to put together.

If someone had the mettle, a 3D printer and a weekend off, you could make something that would put this to shame for 50usd.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Finding some bored local guy that would do it for pennies would be best.

Used to be=people don't know how or...China...

Sorry, I just did some quick searching online and was blown away. My dad used to build doll houses when he retired and gave them away. I just saw a Queen Anne unfinished nothing special for more than $4,000

Maybe I should start building doll houses on the side.
 

highland145

Lifer
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Sorry, I just did some quick searching online and was blown away. My dad used to build doll houses when he retired and gave them away. I just saw a Queen Anne unfinished nothing special for more than $4,000

Maybe I should start building doll houses on the side.
On the side, HELL.




Don't bother, people have no clue what quality is.
 
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