SNES Classic coming out September 29th for $79.99

[Sonikku]

I thought this was a near-universal opinion, but a surprising number of NintendoAge members disagreed with me:
http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=174837#

People are entitled to their opinion. Even if it is the wrong opinion.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I love the US controller with the concave X and Y buttons and I think the color scheme works well for the US controller. The system itself looks like crap in the US, but I'll take that over what Nintendo did with the NES in the US market, trying to make it look good at the expense of the pins inside on the cartridge connector getting warped leading to the annoying constant reset upon powering on with a game. I was at the flea market today and saw someone selling a US SNES Model 2, which I thought looked awesome. With how good the SNES Classic is though I didn't have any real desire to buy it.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I always prefer convex buttons. Everything from arcade sticks to console controllers are better with them IMO.

 

[Ichinisan]

I love the US controller with the concave X and Y buttons and I think the color scheme works well for the US controller. The system itself looks like crap in the US, but I'll take that over what Nintendo did with the NES in the US market, trying to make it look good at the expense of the pins inside on the cartridge connector getting warped leading to the annoying constant reset upon powering on with a game. I was at the flea market today and saw someone selling a US SNES Model 2, which I thought looked awesome. With how good the SNES Classic is though I didn't have any real desire to buy it.

I plan to unload about 5 mini SNES systems (SNS-101), but I want to do RGB video upgrade mods to them first.

I (pre)ordered 2 of these yesterday:
https://www.analogue.co/pages/super-nt

...2 because it saves on the outrageous $40 shipping.

Both are the Super Famicom style. I only preordered one of the matching 8BITDO Bluetooth controllers. I won't really need the bundled Retro Receiver because I already have plenty of those.

Analogue and 8BITDO have close attention to detail. The USA style and black ones have concave X/Y buttons. SF/Euro style has convex. I can't see the clear one well enough to be sure.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I (pre)ordered 2 of these yesterday:
https://www.analogue.co/pages/super-nt

Wow I was about to say it was too rich for my blood but was shocked to find out the price is only $190. I figured it would be around $500 or so based on how much the Analogue NT sold for. Can you play roms off an SD/micro SD card on those?

 

[Ichinisan]

Wow I was about to say it was too rich for my blood but was shocked to find out the price is only $190. I figured it would be around $500 or so based on how much the Analogue NT sold for. Can you play roms off an SD/micro SD card on those?

For business reasons, Kevtris can't officially say just yet if he intends to release a "jailbreak" with FPGA cores for other platforms. I'm pretty sure we'll know within a few days after it launches.

 

[Sonikku]

I've thought about getting a wireless 8bitdo controller for my classic, but the wireless receiver's size is big enough to bug me. It sticks out like a sore thumb. Wish they could make one smaller.

 

[Ichinisan]

I've thought about getting a wireless 8bitdo controller for my classic, but the wireless receiver's size is big enough to bug me. It sticks out like a sore thumb. Wish they could make one smaller.

I recall an internal mod was made for NES classic that seemed to support most or all of the same controllers an 8BITDO receiver supports. Since NES Classic and SNES Classic are identical inside, it would probably work for both. It connects between the controller ports and the circuit board. I think it didn't require any soldering.

[edit]
Yup. Confirms compatibility with SNES mini:
http://www.brookaccessory.com/NINCADE/list.html

https://www.focusattack.com/brook-nincade-wireless-control-pcba-kit-for-nes-classic-or-famicom-mini/

 

[Sonikku]

I recall an internal mod was made for NES classic that seemed to support most or all of the same controllers an 8BITDO receiver supports. Since NES Classic and SNES Classic are identical inside, it would probably work for both. It connects between the controller ports and the circuit board. I think it didn't require any soldering.

[edit]
Yup. Confirms compatibility with SNES mini:
http://www.brookaccessory.com/NINCADE/list.html

https://www.focusattack.com/brook-nincade-wireless-control-pcba-kit-for-nes-classic-or-famicom-mini/

Wow, if I could close up the controller port thing on the SNES Classic that sticks out that would be a huge plus. Looks so tacky compared to the NES Classic.

 

[Sonikku]

These ones from 8bitdo have bluetooth but apparently they're larger than vintage.

Inversely, they sell wireless ones for $25 that work with the Classic and is identical to the original controller's proportion, but doesn't have blue tooth. >.>

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I know it's not an SNES game, but anyone who is a fan of the SNES would freaking love Zelda: A Link Between Worlds on the New 3DS. I say New 3DS since the 3D is great in this game but I heard it's hard to keep the 3D in focus on older 3DS models (the New ones track your face movement with the camera and adjust the 3D to stay in focus). That game is such a blast, and feels like a perfect sequel to A Link to the Past. I think I like this game better than BOTW and definitely more than Twilight Princess (the two previous Zelda games I played).

 

[Sonikku]

Link Between Worlds was THE reason I upgraded to a 3DS. It was pretty good. Though I was disappointed that you never got to see the restored land of gold which was reformed in the ending credits of Link to The Past. Instead it's just the dark world again.

 

[zerocool84]

Link Between Worlds was THE reason I upgraded to a 3DS. It was pretty good. Though I was disappointed that you never got to see the restored land of gold which was reformed in the ending credits of Link to The Past. Instead it's just the dark world again.

That's the reason why I got a 3DS as well. Great game. And while I absolutely loved Breath of the Wild, I want another Zelda game like that as well. A Link to the Past type games never get old to me.

 

[NTMBK]

I enjoyed Link Between Worlds, it's just a shame it was butt ugly. 3DS graphics are rough, especially compared to gorgeous SNES sprites.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I enjoyed Link Between Worlds, it's just a shame it was butt ugly. 3DS graphics are rough, especially compared to gorgeous SNES sprites.

I thought it looked great in 3D. Whenever I turned off the 3D I thought it looked pretty bad though.

 

[NTMBK]

I thought it looked great in 3D. Whenever I turned off the 3D I thought it looked pretty bad though.

Ah, fair enough. I have a 2DS (3D effects tend to give me a headache), so I didn't see the 3D.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Ah, fair enough. I have a 2DS (3D effects tend to give me a headache), so I didn't see the 3D.

I was really surprised by how much of a difference 3D makes in that game. Every other game I have still looks pretty good in 2D. Even Mario Kart 7 which makes heavy use of the 3D still looks really good in 2D IMO. I do think the 3D effect works really well on the New 3DS though. I imagine it's pretty bad in the old 3DS if you lose it every time you move your face, but it's nothing like that in the New 3DS unless you're holding the screen too far away. Then you'll easily get the double vision effect when turning the 3D on.

If I play Zelda A Link Between Worlds for an hour with the 3D on it does take about 5 minutes or so for my eyes to adjust back though, which is definitely annoying. And I would probably wait ten minutes to drive a car after playing my 3DS in 3D mode. A few games seem to really make good use of the 3D though: I was impressed by it in Mario Kart 7, Mario Golf, and A Link Between Worlds. I hated it in Senran Kagura and play that game in 2D. I don't feel one way or the other about the 3D in Shin Megami Tensei IV or New Super Mario Bros 2. The 3D is somewhat cool in what I have played of Super Mario 3D Land but I could live without it.

 

[Fallen Kell]

I ordered 2 of the 8bitdo bluetooth modules for my SNES Classic over the weekend. I read/heard of people having some issues with the internal bluetooth mod (i.e. double/tripple detecting button actions and some light lag), so I went with the 8bitdo. It does kind of suck that it will stick out the way they do. I guess if I really wanted I could wire up something and put them internal (but would need to cut a hole to wire up a sync button for them).

I can live with it for now... Might order one of the internal adapters just to see if it is as bad as I read about (may just have been a few bad ones or some kind of interference happening).

 

[Sonikku]

I got one a couple weeks ago and love it. The accurate measurements and lower $25 price point won me over, in spite of the ugly protruding dongle. I wish 8bitdo would make their wireless bluetooth SNES controllers the same size as vintage, but perhaps they had to make it slightly larger to accommodate the dongle and battery.

 

[Fallen Kell]

Well, my SuperNT arrived! Playing FFIII (US) on it right now.

 

[Ichinisan]

Well, my SuperNT arrived! Playing FFIII (US) on it right now.

Which color scheme did you get? SF here.

Did you get a matching 8Bitdo controller too?

 

[Ichinisan]

Wow I was about to say it was too rich for my blood but was shocked to find out the price is only $190. I figured it would be around $500 or so based on how much the Analogue NT sold for. Can you play roms off an SD/micro SD card on those?

You can now

 

[Ichinisan]

These ones from 8bitdo have bluetooth but apparently they're larger than vintage.

Inversely, they sell wireless ones for $25 that work with the Classic and is identical to the original controller's proportion, but doesn't have blue tooth. >.>

The SN30 "Retro Set" controllers designed to match the 4 Super Nt styles are actually Bluetooth and they match the dimensions of the SNES controller. I even swapped a real SNES D-pad into mine because the 8Bitdo D-pad was too sensitive and registered unintended diagonals way too easily -- like so many other controllers including Asciipad and NES Classic Edition. The pivot bump inside was almost imperceptibly smaller in the 8Bitdo part.

Buying the Retro Set means buying an SNES Retro Receiver. The bundle price isn't bad though. Just $40.

The SNES30 and NES30 were discontinued. I believe 8Bitdo and Analogue were scared that it looked too similar to Nintendo's. Probably got a threat from Nintendo of America. Some indications of this: The support page refers to them now as "SN30 (legacy)" / "N30" and they have no pictures of these models. It might also explain why there have been no production runs for Nt Mini in a while, despite enormous interest and $1,200+ prices on eBay (Nt Mini included an NES30 + Retro Receiver).

 

[Sonikku]

I think I'll just go this route with my $25 8bitdo controller as I don't plan on ever pairing or using the controller with anything else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx5wI1NWZ0E

With the bluetooth controller going for $40 and the Nincade mod running $35 you would almost be looking at the total cost of the SNES Classic itself! If I can get a clean look on my super famicom classic without a dongle sticking out for no extra investment I'm all over it.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I got one a couple weeks ago and love it. The accurate measurements and lower $25 price point won me over, in spite of the ugly protruding dongle. I wish 8bitdo would make their wireless bluetooth SNES controllers the same size as vintage, but perhaps they had to make it slightly larger to accommodate the dongle and battery.

Are you talking about the SN30? You don't notice any difference playing Super Mario World vs using the wired controllers that come with the SNES Classic? That game is my go to test. The SNES Classic is the first time I have been able to play that game again properly since my old SNES. I'm kind of worried going wireless would add just enough latency to make the game hard to control. SNES Classic with the wired controllers feels just like the real thing though. I can run through stages and make quick and precise jumps that I have never been able to do with other emulator/controller combinations.