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Sonikku

Lifer
Jun 23, 2005
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Pfft I always sat next to the screen when I was a kid even though my mother would yell at me not to. With a Famicom I could have had the perfect excuse! Not to mention I'd be killing Pols Voice by blowing my controller. (damn that sounded wrong in hindsight of typing it)
 
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daveybrat

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Jan 31, 2000
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Pfft I always sat next to the screen when I was a kid even though my mother would yell at me not to. With a Famicom I could have had the perfect excuse! Not to mention I'd be killing Pols Voice by blowing my controller. (damn that sounded wrong in hindsight of typing it)

I'll bet you had one very happy controller
 

Samus

Golden Member
Jan 12, 2001
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Wow, blinking light win, nice! I'm already used to not pushing carts down, game genie being the excuse. Yeah, gotta cheat sometimes, that Konami code only gets you so far...

If you guys haven't tried it, I couldn't recommend Caig deoxit more. It's for circuit and electrical connector maintenance. I'm an electrical engineer and Caig stuff is pretty awesome. I put some on my game genie back in 04 the last time I replaced the 72-pin and never take it out, just pull carts from the game genie. Everything is quite reliable. Not top loader reliable but pretty reliable. I've had corruption pop up in kid Icarus once when I let it sit overnight to pickup the next day.

And I couldn't agree more, the design of the NES was pivotal to rebooting the gaming industry. There wouldn't be a successful top loader until the genesis years later, after the gaming industry was healthy enough to accept a console that didn't look like an "appliance"
 
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Ichinisan

Lifer
Oct 9, 2002
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... The best thing about the top loader is the controller for sure. I was turned off by the NES Classic mostly because I find the rectangle controller, while classic, uncomfortable. ...
Oh yeah: works with Wii Classic Controller and Classic Controller Pro.

Then you even have a Home button to return to the menu, so you don't need to press Reset on the front of the NES CE. You'd still have a short cord though.
 
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Tweak155

Lifer
Sep 23, 2003
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This could be a big win. Was not overly interested in the NES but I played SNES a ton back in the day... they might get me with the right games.
 
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CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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Wow, blinking light win, nice! I'm already used to not pushing carts down, game genie being the excuse. Yeah, gotta cheat sometimes, that Konami code only gets you so far...

If you guys haven't tried it, I couldn't recommend Caig deoxit more. It's for circuit and electrical connector maintenance. I'm an electrical engineer and Caig stuff is pretty awesome. I put some on my game genie back in 04 the last time I replaced the 72-pin and never take it out, just pull carts from the game genie. Everything is quite reliable. Not top loader reliable but pretty reliable. I've had corruption pop up in kid Icarus once when I let it sit overnight to pickup the next day.

And I couldn't agree more, the design of the NES was pivotal to rebooting the gaming industry. There wouldn't be a successful top loader until the genesis years later, after the gaming industry was healthy enough to accept a console that didn't look like an "appliance"
I've used it for electronics work and the stuff works great, but it always felt like a waste to use it on huge collections just because it's not very cheap.

Fry's Electronics had a giant bottle of "PUREtronics 99.9% pure Electronics Cleaning Grade Isopropyl alcohol" (think it was over a liter) for $7.99 so I bought that several years ago and I'm only just getting low on the stuff after I've cleaned literally thousands of games in addition to cleaning PCBs and dissolving flux residues with it. For the average retro gamer I'd heartily recommend DeoxIT, but for the guy who just ordered 21(!) 1-Up cards to save on cotton swabs when cleaning his entire collection, Isopropyl will have to do!

Actually, I ordered 3 cards from the cheapest source and was about to order six more from the next cheapest place when I noticed that it only cost $3 more for 18 of them from the manufacturer. Yeah: Ended up getting a few too many.

I have premixed vials of the isopropyl alcohol with 50% distilled water that I usually use first and other vials with 99.9% for anything particularly dirty. Nintendo's own Official NES Cleaning Kit instructions say to use water first and a 50% solution with isopropyl if you still have trouble, but I suspect that they are just hesitant to recommend it outright because they contradict their own care instructions printed on nearly every game pak ("Do not clean with alcohol, benzene, or other such solvents."). That may also explain why they didn't call it alcohol in the kit's instructions (just "isopropyl").

I've heard that DeoxIT coats the electrical contacts with something that prevents/slows oxidation while not interfering with conductivity (a dielectric?) so it's far superior, but I keep everything in dust sleeves/cases and clean regularly enough that I should be able to get by without the expense.
 
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Samus

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Jan 12, 2001
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Although kind of off topic, but this is an 8-bit themes thread now, anyone who lives near Chicago really must visit Headquarters. It's an 8-bit Barcade and everything is on free play. And there is no cover. Reasonably priced booze and underwhelming food. But that's not the point. I mean they have Castlevania Arcade. It's the only one I've ever seen.
 
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MetalMat

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Jun 14, 2004
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Honestly, the way they handled the NES Classic has killed any enthusiasm I have for an SNES Classic....

Their BS line "we had no idea the NES Classic would be in such demand" was either a straight up lie, or incompetence.

They announced the console 4 months before it launched and the announcement went mainstream, and people outside of the gaming community were talking about buying them.

Yeah the way Nintendo handled the NES classic was pretty much BS. I think what happened is that they had the NES classic to maybe satisfy the stock holders as a quick stop gap before the Switch and now that they are making money off the switch they no longer need to worry about the NES classic. Makes me wonder what kind of margins they had on it, it can't be much otherwise I would question why Nintendo is leaving so much money on the table. I have a feeling the NES classic will be making a resurgence in a year or two.
 

Chaotic42

Lifer
Jun 15, 2001
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I'd be interested if it was done in hardware or HDL, but if it's just an emulator on a little Linux machine, I'll pass.
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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Exactly. Probably similarly underproduced with no Final Fantasy or ChronoTrigger. I'm not holding my breath.
Who knows if Square would let those games on it. Final Fantasy is on the NES Classic so we can hope at least one FF game will make it into the SNES Classic.
 

Paperlantern

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Apr 26, 2003
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I'd be interested if it was done in hardware or HDL, but if it's just an emulator on a little Linux machine, I'll pass.

This. I wanted one, but just couldn't deal with paying more than the retail price, and retailers were ALWAYS sold out. If it was real hardware and not emulation I may have tried harder, but it was really just a novelty piece for me. I don't really like emulation as much as playing the real thing on the real hardware. There is some appeal in hacking one as well, especially since it can also do other systems, but at this point, people are asking astronomical amounts of money for them because they know they are discontinued.

Mini SNES is on my radar, and again I may try to get one if they make them a little more available and I can walk into a store and walk out with one without having to wrestle someone or camping out a store like it's Black Friday. I have a SNES, I'm not missing anything. I just want one for ease of playing these games on newer TVs. And maybe portability. Its small, make a carry case for it and you can pop it on in a hotel room or something when on the road.

So I can definitely take or leave it. If they are $69.99 and readily available, sure, I'll check it out. Out of stock everywhere all the time, people camping stores and getting into fights to get one? I'm out.
 

Sonikku

Lifer
Jun 23, 2005
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I'm mildly disappointed with the NES Classic because the games have been modified from their originals. I don't even see the point in fixing the gibberish in Zelda if the translation is still so bad that the hints still make no sense. *grumble, grumble*

But much more so than that, I dislike the little touches like removing the flash when the two ninjas clash blades in the air in Ninja Gaiden's open sequence. I thought it made it more dramatic. If this is to be the way in which they handle SNES games however, I hope at the very least they make improvements like giving Final Fantasy 4 the "FF Chronicles" translation as the US SNES version of the game was butchered all to hell.
 
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These companies are all idiotic for not rereleasing classic consoles. Give me a sega genesis sports edition and I'll buy it!
 

Ichinisan

Lifer
Oct 9, 2002
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I'm mildly disappointed with the NES Classic because the games have been modified from their originals. I don't even see the point in fixing the gibberish in Zelda if the translation is still so bad that the hints still make no sense. *grumble, grumble*

But much more so than that, I dislike the little touches like removing the flash when the two ninjas clash blades in the air in Ninja Gaiden's open sequence. I thought it made it more dramatic. If this is to be the way in which they handle SNES games however, I hope at the very least they make improvements like giving Final Fantasy 4 the "FF Chronicles" translation as the US SNES version of the game was butchered all to hell.
A lot of the latency is caused by some kind of buffer/filter that's meant to reduce flashing so it's less likely to trigger an epileptic seizure. The screen seems to melt sometimes when it's flickering or there's a drastic change.



I haven't hacked mine, but I've seen that the Hackchi utility lets you remove the anti-epilepsy "feature."
 
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Ichinisan

Lifer
Oct 9, 2002
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I'm mildly disappointed with the NES Classic because the games have been modified from their originals. I don't even see the point in fixing the gibberish in Zelda if the translation is still so bad that the hints still make no sense. *grumble, grumble*

But much more so than that, I dislike the little touches like removing the flash when the two ninjas clash blades in the air in Ninja Gaiden's open sequence. I thought it made it more dramatic. If this is to be the way in which they handle SNES games however, I hope at the very least they make improvements like giving Final Fantasy 4 the "FF Chronicles" translation as the US SNES version of the game was butchered all to hell.
What were the changes in Zelda? There was more than one version on NES. One of them didn't have the message about holding Reset as you press Power.

Startropics already had "Yo-Yo" changed to "Star" for the Virtual Console release. I think "Yo-Yo" is trademarked or something. I kinda wish they had done this:
 
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