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Cuda1447

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I have gone snowboarding three times in my life. I had going skiing quite a few times before that. Skiing I was better at, but I enjoyed snowboarding more. I fell a lot. When I fell I tried to get up right away and get going again. I fell a lot. I live in the south and don't have a lot of opportunities to going snowboarding. Next time I go (hopefully sometime in the next 3-4 months) I will probably fall a lot. To fucking bad, I'm new to it and don't get to do it often. Deal with it.
 

ConstipatedVigilante

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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
I have gone snowboarding three times in my life. I had going skiing quite a few times before that. Skiing I was better at, but I enjoyed snowboarding more. I fell a lot. When I fell I tried to get up right away and get going again. I fell a lot. I live in the south and don't have a lot of opportunities to going snowboarding. Next time I go (hopefully sometime in the next 3-4 months) I will probably fall a lot. To fucking bad, I'm new to it and don't get to do it often. Deal with it.

No one minds if you fall down and get up again to get better. Everyone has to fall down to get better. We're talking about people who fall down, sit there for 5 minutes talking with their friends (in the middle of the trail), then get up and fall again. I go skiing pretty rarely (it's been a few years now since my last time) and I fall quite a bit on the first couple runs before I get used to it again - I just hop on my feet, grab my skis/poles, try to avoid others, and get going again.
 

duragezic

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Oct 11, 1999
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Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: Aflac

lol, does this pic really depict what happens on slopes? so dumb...

I'm going to grab some pics next time I go out, but yes, it really does.
LOL. The only thing that would make that group okay is if they were waiting to hit a good jump. Where I've went throughout the UP of Michigan, the terrain parks generally weren't much if any so it wasn't uncommon to have a big group of snowboarders all waiting and hitting just one main jump.

But that is not always the case, and the ones who just group up and sit on their ass all afternoon are simply posers.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: theblackbox
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: AFSCrazy
Some of the best skiing on the east coast. I agree with the OP though, I'm not gonna incriminate anyone for their skill level, but snowboarders need to not sit in the middle of the trail in groups of 10+. GTF out of the way. The park mostly belongs to you guys so go chill there.

LIES!

Northeast is decent, but not in the same league as what is found out West.

West Virginia and below is truly laughable.

on the other hand, West Virginia has the best ATV trail system. Hatfield Mccoy far beats out anything we have, as colorado isn't the best about marking trails and utah likes to tell you how hard it is once your are six miles in...I have nothing but admiration for the work WV has done in making a fantastic trail system.

True true, I shouldn't be knocking WV being from NC ice slopes
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Hmm even the black diamonds?

That's where it was mostly occurring. The sad part is that you had all these boarders doing the "board 15 yards, fall, rinse and repeat" on the black diamonds, and the green/blue slopes were devoid of boarders altogether. It's like they just said "screw boarding on something my skill level, I wanna brag that I went on black diamonds all night" and then just repeatedly threw themselves down the trails. Drove me f'ing insane. I actually enjoyed skiing the greens every few runs just because I didn't have to worry about the moronic boarders.


Now that I look at this again, I'm tempted to print out a few copies, tape pennies to 'em, and toss 'em at the idiot obstacle boarders as I ski by. Too bad the ski patrol probably wouldn't approve (at least not outwardly).
 

TheVrolok

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Dec 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: Riceninja
dont hate on us cuz we too cool for u

this post, snowboarding, the black guy avatar, the username .. the combination is nothing but win.
 

Auryg

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Dec 28, 2003
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I actually got in a really bad ski accident somewhat due to snowboarders before.

Basically, I was going down a trail, one I've been down many, many times and it has a large jump on it mostly for snowboarders (that go off of it at a flying 5 mph). There was a group of snowboarders, a couple on each side of the jump, meaning you had to go over it if you were to continue going down the trail. They didn't do this on purpose, but since it was the top of the hill and that's what you do when you snowboard...Anyways, it wouldn't have been a problem except I was going really fast and it was very icy that day, and the jump kind of sneaks up on you. I would have had plenty of time to change direction and avoid the jump, but not enough to slow down enough, and I didn't want to go off the jump at a weird angle so I just flew right off of the damn thing. Unfortunately, I've never been much of a height person and had no idea WTF I was doing at that point.

Broke both bones in my left forearm and my hand/wrist was shifted over to the left a few inches. When I woke up I thought my back was broken due to it hurting so bad, and to this day I have neck/back problems.

Of course, that could have been avoided by me just as much as the snowboarders, and if I could go back I would have tried to stop, but I didn't have enough time to think. To their credit they were the first ones by my side.
 

Funyuns101

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Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: Riceninja
dont hate on us cuz we too cool for u

this post, snowboarding, the black guy avatar, the username .. the combination is nothing but win.

haha, i actually snowboard. i've been doing it for a few years now but never really fell into the crowd that does it just to look cool. it's fun as i'm sure skiing is fun too. regardless, if i fall (which rarely happens now) i get right back up and go. i love free-riding.

anyway, new skiiers fall down just as much but as you said: there are lot more snowboarders out there. i have picked up skis, poles, etc for ppl that wipe out in front of me out of courtesy.

what i hate most are the ones that stop for no reason other than to congregate... as in not falling, but actually "hitting the brakes" in the middle of the mountain and getting in everyone's way.

basically: too many dumb people who think the world revolves around them ski/board~
 

BeauJangles

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Aug 26, 2001
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I've snowboarded for nearly eight years now and I'm moving back to skis this winter. Part of the reason I'm doing this is because I don't want to be associated with most of the asshats that "ride" these days, but I also have become much more interested in going back country and it's a hell of a lot easier on skis than it is on a snowboard.
 

TheVrolok

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Originally posted by: BeauJangles
I've snowboarded for nearly eight years now and I'm moving back to skis this winter. Part of the reason I'm doing this is because I don't want to be associated with most of the asshats that "ride" these days, but I also have become much more interested in going back country and it's a hell of a lot easier on skis than it is on a snowboard.

Yeah really, what's off piste like on a board?
 

adairusmc

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Jul 24, 2006
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I LOVE it when the cross country skiers on Mt. Bachelor here in Oregon like to get on the snowmobile trails when I am riding. A 162" track can kick up a lot of snow into a skiers face.

And they have the nerve to get pissed when we go speeding by at 50+ mph. If they stayed on their own trail they would not have to worry about it.
 

novasatori

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Feb 27, 2003
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a lot of em are probably first time boarders or with first time boarders, I remember my first time, I was exhausted even though I could board good, so I spent a lot of time as an obstacle, near the edges though.
I got tired of boarding the moderate stuff and went back to skiing, as it seems less exhausting to me.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Apr 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: AFSCrazy
Some of the best skiing on the east coast. I agree with the OP though, I'm not gonna incriminate anyone for their skill level, but snowboarders need to not sit in the middle of the trail in groups of 10+. GTF out of the way. The park mostly belongs to you guys so go chill there.

LIES!

Northeast is decent, but not in the same league as what is found out West.

West Virginia and below is truly laughable.

That's pure bullshit. Agreed on the West Virginia and below, helll the truly laughable line starts much farther north than that. But what's found in the northeast is every bit as good as what's found out west. Hell, it's probably even harder. I've seen a lot of western skiers who thought they were good come east, skid off a few trails and run home with their tails between their legs because they couldn't set an edge on hard snow.
 

Kyle

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Oct 14, 1999
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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: AFSCrazy
Some of the best skiing on the east coast. I agree with the OP though, I'm not gonna incriminate anyone for their skill level, but snowboarders need to not sit in the middle of the trail in groups of 10+. GTF out of the way. The park mostly belongs to you guys so go chill there.

LIES!

Northeast is decent, but not in the same league as what is found out West.

West Virginia and below is truly laughable.

That's pure bullshit. Agreed on the West Virginia and below, helll the truly laughable line starts much farther north than that. But what's found in the northeast is every bit as good as what's found out west. Hell, it's probably even harder. I've seen a lot of western skiers who thought they were good come east, skid off a few trails and run home with their tails between their legs because they couldn't set an edge on hard snow.


...I don't think many people are looking for "hard snow"...
And even out west we have plenty of days that are icy/hard, so I'd be surprised that a "good" skiier couldnt set an edge on hard pack/icy conditions.
 

theblackbox

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Oct 1, 2004
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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: AFSCrazy
Some of the best skiing on the east coast. I agree with the OP though, I'm not gonna incriminate anyone for their skill level, but snowboarders need to not sit in the middle of the trail in groups of 10+. GTF out of the way. The park mostly belongs to you guys so go chill there.

LIES!

Northeast is decent, but not in the same league as what is found out West.

West Virginia and below is truly laughable.

That's pure bullshit. Agreed on the West Virginia and below, helll the truly laughable line starts much farther north than that. But what's found in the northeast is every bit as good as what's found out west. Hell, it's probably even harder. I've seen a lot of western skiers who thought they were good come east, skid off a few trails and run home with their tails between their legs because they couldn't set an edge on hard snow.


opinion at best. wrong to say the least.
 

GagHalfrunt

Lifer
Apr 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: theblackbox
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: AFSCrazy
Some of the best skiing on the east coast. I agree with the OP though, I'm not gonna incriminate anyone for their skill level, but snowboarders need to not sit in the middle of the trail in groups of 10+. GTF out of the way. The park mostly belongs to you guys so go chill there.

LIES!

Northeast is decent, but not in the same league as what is found out West.

West Virginia and below is truly laughable.

That's pure bullshit. Agreed on the West Virginia and below, helll the truly laughable line starts much farther north than that. But what's found in the northeast is every bit as good as what's found out west. Hell, it's probably even harder. I've seen a lot of western skiers who thought they were good come east, skid off a few trails and run home with their tails between their legs because they couldn't set an edge on hard snow.


opinion at best. wrong to say the least.


The fact that western skiing is so much better? Not just wrong, but laughably wrong, yep.
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
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Originally posted by: Kyle
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: AFSCrazy
Some of the best skiing on the east coast. I agree with the OP though, I'm not gonna incriminate anyone for their skill level, but snowboarders need to not sit in the middle of the trail in groups of 10+. GTF out of the way. The park mostly belongs to you guys so go chill there.

LIES!

Northeast is decent, but not in the same league as what is found out West.

West Virginia and below is truly laughable.

That's pure bullshit. Agreed on the West Virginia and below, helll the truly laughable line starts much farther north than that. But what's found in the northeast is every bit as good as what's found out west. Hell, it's probably even harder. I've seen a lot of western skiers who thought they were good come east, skid off a few trails and run home with their tails between their legs because they couldn't set an edge on hard snow.


...I don't think many people are looking for "hard snow"...
And even out west we have plenty of days that are icy/hard, so I'd be surprised that a "good" skiier couldnt set an edge on hard pack/icy conditions.

I can understand what he means. If someone skis on nothing but powder with the occasional bit of ice(like out west) they may have a rough time of it skiing on the predominately hard pack/ice or if you're lucky some loose granular in the east. I would love to be able to ski more powder, but to be honest, I enjoy the eastern ice/hard pack (I don't have much of a choice, obviously) because setting a good edge and carving with a nice pair of AMCs is fun.
 

Kyle

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Oct 14, 1999
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Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: Kyle
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: AFSCrazy
Some of the best skiing on the east coast. I agree with the OP though, I'm not gonna incriminate anyone for their skill level, but snowboarders need to not sit in the middle of the trail in groups of 10+. GTF out of the way. The park mostly belongs to you guys so go chill there.

LIES!

Northeast is decent, but not in the same league as what is found out West.

West Virginia and below is truly laughable.

That's pure bullshit. Agreed on the West Virginia and below, helll the truly laughable line starts much farther north than that. But what's found in the northeast is every bit as good as what's found out west. Hell, it's probably even harder. I've seen a lot of western skiers who thought they were good come east, skid off a few trails and run home with their tails between their legs because they couldn't set an edge on hard snow.


...I don't think many people are looking for "hard snow"...
And even out west we have plenty of days that are icy/hard, so I'd be surprised that a "good" skiier couldnt set an edge on hard pack/icy conditions.

I can understand what he means. If someone skis on nothing but powder with the occasional bit of ice(like out west) they may have a rough time of it skiing on the predominately hard pack/ice or if you're lucky some loose granular in the east. I would love to be able to ski more powder, but to be honest, I enjoy the eastern ice/hard pack (I don't have much of a choice, obviously) because setting a good edge and carving with a nice pair of AMCs is fun.


Honestly, I have done most of my skiiing in Oregon/Washington, and I'm lucky to be skiing on a "powder" day...it's much more prevelent on Bachelor (I've skiied Hood more) and in the Utah/Colorado/Montana etc areas. I'm actually far better at skiing on hard packed/slightly icy snow than I am in the powder because of this. There's a pretty large range of conditions on the west coast, it's not all fluffy powder.

But regardless, I don't see how hard packed or icy conditions on the east coast would qualify it as better skiing than the west coast...
 

tailes151

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When I just started snowboarding I tried to stay away from greens as much as possible. If you fall on a flat area its a slow boring as walk to the next slope steep enough to get moving again. Even now I tend to stay away from them. Blues are where its at though, cause fucking moguls rape me on my board =/
 

clamum

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Feb 13, 2003
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Originally posted by: duragezic
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: Aflac

lol, does this pic really depict what happens on slopes? so dumb...

I'm going to grab some pics next time I go out, but yes, it really does.
LOL. The only thing that would make that group okay is if they were waiting to hit a good jump. Where I've went throughout the UP of Michigan, the terrain parks generally weren't much if any so it wasn't uncommon to have a big group of snowboarders all waiting and hitting just one main jump.

But that is not always the case, and the ones who just group up and sit on their ass all afternoon are simply posers.
Agreed. I haven't been to very many big mountains (look up Marquette Mountain in Marquette, MI for what I've usually rode) but you sometimes see something like that. If there's a nice table top or something then MAYBE you'll have a bunch of boarders sitting there, and they take turns hitting it. Or they're sitting there because they're pussies who snowboard (well, they don't really snowboard at all) because it's more hip or whatever than skiing.

As far as the OP's experience of snowboarders falling every 15-20 yards then laying in the trail for 5-10 minutes, well in 7 years of pretty regular snowboarding I don't recall ever seeing that. Sounds like they need to be shown where the bunny hill is.
 

theblackbox

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Originally posted by: Kyle
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: Kyle
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: AFSCrazy
Some of the best skiing on the east coast. I agree with the OP though, I'm not gonna incriminate anyone for their skill level, but snowboarders need to not sit in the middle of the trail in groups of 10+. GTF out of the way. The park mostly belongs to you guys so go chill there.

LIES!

Northeast is decent, but not in the same league as what is found out West.

West Virginia and below is truly laughable.

That's pure bullshit. Agreed on the West Virginia and below, helll the truly laughable line starts much farther north than that. But what's found in the northeast is every bit as good as what's found out west. Hell, it's probably even harder. I've seen a lot of western skiers who thought they were good come east, skid off a few trails and run home with their tails between their legs because they couldn't set an edge on hard snow.


...I don't think many people are looking for "hard snow"...
And even out west we have plenty of days that are icy/hard, so I'd be surprised that a "good" skiier couldnt set an edge on hard pack/icy conditions.

I can understand what he means. If someone skis on nothing but powder with the occasional bit of ice(like out west) they may have a rough time of it skiing on the predominately hard pack/ice or if you're lucky some loose granular in the east. I would love to be able to ski more powder, but to be honest, I enjoy the eastern ice/hard pack (I don't have much of a choice, obviously) because setting a good edge and carving with a nice pair of AMCs is fun.


Honestly, I have done most of my skiiing in Oregon/Washington, and I'm lucky to be skiing on a "powder" day...it's much more prevelent on Bachelor (I've skiied Hood more) and in the Utah/Colorado/Montana etc areas. I'm actually far better at skiing on hard packed/slightly icy snow than I am in the powder because of this. There's a pretty large range of conditions on the west coast, it's not all fluffy powder.

But regardless, I don't see how hard packed or icy conditions on the east coast would qualify it as better skiing than the west coast...

agree. the concept of ice skating and skiing just don't jive.
But, maybe it's a mach east coast thing, yeah yeah... our snow sucks, but it makes it better because we have to make due.

peeps on the east coast, i'll let you in on a secret. we have ice too. the only problem we have is our snow is better. your not to blame for that, but we're sorry. the only thing that peeves me is having to watch all the dumb ski utah commercials with the snowflakes.
i guess though utah has to promote their winters, cause their summers suck.
 
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