Sheik Yerbouti
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Those who vote "hero" will be placed under immediate and direct surveillance by the NSA.
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Those who vote "hero" will be placed under immediate and direct surveillance by the NSA.
Still don't know why he couldn't have leaked shit anonymously. Just looking for attention, I guess. Neither a traitor nor a hero.
Greenwald: "One of the extraordinary parts about this episode is usually whistleblowers do what they do anonymously and take steps to remain anonymous for as long as they can, which they hope often is forever. You on the other hand have decided to do the opposite, which is to declare yourself openly as the person behind these disclosures. Why did you choose to do that?"
Snowden: "I think that the public is owed an explanation of the motivations behind the people who make these disclosures that are outside of the democratic model. When you are subverting the power of government that's a fundamentally dangerous thing to democracy and if you do that in secret consistently as the government does when it wants to benefit from a secret action that it took. It'll kind of give its officials a mandate to go, 'Hey tell the press about this thing and that thing so the public is on our side.' But they rarely, if ever, do that when an abuse occurs. That falls to individual citizens but they're typically maligned. It becomes a thing of 'These people are against the country. They're against the government' but I'm not."
"I'm no different from anybody else. I don't have special skills. I'm just another guy who sits there day to day in the office, watches what's happening and goes, 'This is something that's not our place to decide, the public needs to decide whether these programs and policies are right or wrong.' And I'm willing to go on the record to defend the authenticity of them and say, 'I didn't change these, I didn't modify the story. This is the truth; this is what's happening. You should decide whether we need to be doing this.'"
Greenwald: "If your motive had been to harm the United States and help its enemies or if your motive had been personal material gain were there things you could have done with these documents to advance those goals that you didn't end up doing?"
Snowden: "Oh absolutely. Anyone in the positions of access with the technical capabilities that I had could suck out secrets, pass them on the open market to Russia; they always have an open door as we do. I had access to the full rosters of everyone working at the NSA, the entire intelligence community, and undercover assets all over the world. The locations of every station, we have what their missions are and so forth."
"If I had just wanted to harm the US? You could shut down the surveillance system in an afternoon. But that's not my intention. I think for anyone making that argument they need to think, if they were in my position and you live a privileged life, you're living in Hawaii, in paradise, and making a ton of money, 'What would it take you to leave everything behind?'"
"The greatest fear that I have regarding the outcome for America of these disclosures is that nothing will change. People will see in the media all of these disclosures.
Those who vote "hero" will be placed under immediate and direct surveillance by the NSA.
Maybe the next president should grant Snowden a pardon. It is kind of too late to do it now since he has been scared into hiding by our evil Nazi secret police in the Federal Government.
DITTO ....Wishful thinking. The next President will stink the same as the last two pieces of shit that occupied the White House.
...there is hardly anyone of sound mind, on the right or the left, who doesn't think that the people who should be in charge of the NSA and the bureaucrats in American intelligence are not.
Not just because it is wrong to institutionalize a massive invasion of privacy, but, more damning, because everybody who ought to be in charge most of all the president and, as well, the allies eagerly aiding him looks witless and harebrained at every turn in this story, and gives no indication that they have any idea what they are doing.
Military Intelligence: The Biggest Fucking Oxymoron In THE WHOLE FUCKING UNIVERSE!!!!
Traitor, he is yet to my knowledge to show even one instance of misuse of gathered information.
So you'd be OK if all phone calls were recorded, and all mail and packages going through the US via USPS, UPS, Fedex, DHL and all that were opened, cataloged, read and repackaged?
Same damn thing...
/shrug do it randomly or when key words were heard in phone convo (already happens i'm guessing), or when a package has suspicious things about it, odd post markings, abnormally small or large for the weight, wires showing, powder/residue, or oily substance on it, nope no issue. I'd be shocked if those types of packages weren't checked actually.
There is no way they are having actual people read every email sent in the US every day. I'd guess at certain hops they get scanned for key words, if flagged a copy is routed for human review, and even then it would be a major work load. If enough emails from a certain address come in they dig deeper.
Now had he came out with cases with of people being abducted with no wrong doing I'd see him a bit different. Had he not gave out key information about our activities towards other countries I might would view it a touch differently. However with what he has done, nope traitor, same with Manning.
A-fucking-MEN. This is how I feel.
/shrug do it randomly or when key words were heard in phone convo (already happens i'm guessing), or when a package has suspicious things about it, odd post markings, abnormally small or large for the weight, wires showing, powder/residue, or oily substance on it, nope no issue. I'd be shocked if those types of packages weren't checked actually.
There is no way they are having actual people read every email sent in the US every day. I'd guess at certain hops they get scanned for key words, if flagged a copy is routed for human review, and even then it would be a major work load. If enough emails from a certain address come in they dig deeper.
Now had he came out with cases with of people being abducted with no wrong doing I'd see him a bit different. Had he not gave out key information about our activities towards other countries I might would view it a touch differently. However with what he has done, nope traitor, same with Manning.
Those who vote "hero" will be placed under immediate and direct surveillance by the NSA.
Those who vote "hero" will be placed under immediate and direct surveillance by the NSA.
I'm not talking about what is feasible. I'm talking about what is already being done and likening it to something else. EVERY bit of your digital data is collected. So lets open and scan EVERY letter sent. Take pictures of EVERYTHING you have shipped to you.
Same crap in the end - an invasion of privacy.
Those who are willing to give up their liberties for the illusion of security deserve neither liberty nor security.
Go move to North Korea if you want to live like a prisoner in your own damn country.
you really think even the NSA is capable of storing every bit of e-mail sent every day, let alone txt msgs and other digital traffic.. of every person in our borders? Do you know how much data that is? Besides the massive amounts of storage space needed for such an endeavor, the processing power needed to copy and move it around with out noticeable delays in msg delivery.
Neither, Whistelblower