So about Repubs blaming Obama for high oil prices

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himkhan

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since oil dropped to a 5yr low yesterday ($65/barrel).

my gas station now has gas for under $2.50/gal.

so if the Repubs blamed Obama all these years for high oil prices, then I guess they'll praise him for getting oil to a 5yr low.

cant wait for them to call that press conference...

Sadly our gas prices in my neck of the woods stalled about 2 weeks ago when they went down below $3. They haven't moved since then despite the recent massive drops in oil prices. But I can bet if oil shoots up $20 tomorrow the price at the pump would go up.
 

alzan

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Let me help you two out, the thread is about oil prices, the claim was people on the left complained about bush's affect on oil prices, I asked who are these people.

Try again.

I confess, it was me. I willingly jumped on the blame Bush bandwagon, as a lot of people have done with various POTUS' over the years.

As easy as it is to take the "The buck stops here" meme or the notion of laying the blame (or kudos) at one person's doorstep; it's inaccurate and generally detracts from the issues at hand.
 

thraashman

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Correct. Hey libs, you do realize don't you, that gas prices are still higher now than under the evil boooooosh.

They reached over $4 a gallon nationally under Bush. A mark that has never once been reached during Obama's Presidency.
 

DrPizza

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It's funny, the left had no problem blaming Bush but when gas went up under Obama it was all due to speculation.
I'd bet that there isn't a single level-headed lefty on these forums who claimed it was Bush's fault. The only ones who ever blamed Bush, or blamed Obama were people with little understanding of the market, and disingenuous people who merely want to create extra divisiveness.

Incidentally, do you have any links to back up your statement? I personally can't recall anyone on these forums blaming Bush when the price was high.
 

dphantom

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no. US companies are selling the oil they get from US soil to countries abroad.
even factoring shipping that oil on tankers, they get more profit.

so no, drilling on US soil does NOT help the people living in the US

Um, yes it is very much helping US consumers.
 

DrPizza

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Like many on the left who blamed Bush for everything including rainy days and Mondays.

Did you really forget about all the threads blaming everything on Bush?

My recollection is a bit different. It's become a joke about how Fox will blame Obama for things, but never was a joke about how MSNBC or CNN or whoever will blame Bush for things, because for the most part, Bush wasn't blamed for things that he had no control over. Bush was blamed for a war we entered that we never should have entered, and for a few other things that were directly related to his actions. He was frequently mocked for idiotic things he said, and for his inability to pronounce words that the 1st world's leader ought to be able to pronounce. "Nucular."

So again, with the, "it's only fair we do this to Obama, because the other side did this to Bush." [Citation]?
 

BoberFett

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I'd bet that there isn't a single level-headed lefty on these forums who claimed it was Bush's fault. The only ones who ever blamed Bush, or blamed Obama were people with little understanding of the market, and disingenuous people who merely want to create extra divisiveness.

Incidentally, do you have any links to back up your statement? I personally can't recall anyone on these forums blaming Bush when the price was high.

See my link above. Whether or not you consider Jhhmhmhmhnnn level headed is up for debate. I certainly don't.
 

dphantom

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My recollection is a bit different. It's become a joke about how Fox will blame Obama for things, but never was a joke about how MSNBC or CNN or whoever will blame Bush for things, because for the most part, Bush wasn't blamed for things that he had no control over. Bush was blamed for a war we entered that we never should have entered, and for a few other things that were directly related to his actions. He was frequently mocked for idiotic things he said, and for his inability to pronounce words that the 1st world's leader ought to be able to pronounce. "Nucular."

So again, with the, "it's only fair we do this to Obama, because the other side did this to Bush." [Citation]?

My recollection is a bit different, remembering many of our left leaning friends would follow Obama's lead in blaming Bush for seemingly everything. <shrug>
 

glenn1

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My recollection is a bit different, remembering many of our left leaning friends would follow Obama's lead in blaming Bush for seemingly everything. <shrug>

Yes, that's what politicians do. If oil goes up blame the other guy, if it goes down blame them, if it stays the same blame them. They'd blame each other for the sunset and sunrise if they could.
 

fskimospy

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My recollection is a bit different, remembering many of our left leaning friends would follow Obama's lead in blaming Bush for seemingly everything. <shrug>

I always found it interesting how quickly you guys decided that Bush couldn't be blamed anymore.

Two ruinous wars and a worldwide financial catastrophe, centered in the US, happened under Bush's watch. That leads to a lot of things to blame him for. You shouldn't be afraid to admit that conservatives really screwed things up. That's the best way to ensure things improve in the future.

Obama screwed things up by not advocating for enough stimulus, he had a bad response to Syria, and his approach to civil liberties has been atrocious. See? That's not too hard!
 

Atreus21

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no. US companies are selling the oil they get from US soil to countries abroad.
even factoring shipping that oil on tankers, they get more profit.

so no, drilling on US soil does NOT help the people living in the US

Strictly speaking, exporting oil from the US is currently banned. Gas is not, but oil is.
 

ivwshane

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Since googling is apparently beneath you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oaq2fHiOOY

Go to 0:15.

Lol, you want me to do your research for you? Next time I make a claim and you ask for proof, I'll remind you of your comment

You'll notice that your video consists of democrats criticizing bush's energy policy and his unwillingness to invest in alternative fuel. I didn't hear a single person say bush was to blame for high gas prices except one reference about how "some people are saying it's bush's fault", with zero examples of these people. In fact, in your clip I didn't even hear someone say bush's energy policies were causing higher gas prices. What I did hear was news anchors stating facts about the price of gas in relation to the start and beginning of bush's term. If you think that means they are blaming bush, well that's your own insecurities kicking in
 

ivwshane

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Strictly speaking, exporting oil from the US is currently banned. Gas is not, but oil is.

True and you could probably argue that US companies not being allowed to export have kept prices lower than they otherwise would be.
 

dphantom

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I always found it interesting how quickly you guys decided that Bush couldn't be blamed anymore.

Two ruinous wars and a worldwide financial catastrophe, centered in the US, happened under Bush's watch. That leads to a lot of things to blame him for. You shouldn't be afraid to admit that conservatives really screwed things up. That's the best way to ensure things improve in the future.

Obama screwed things up by not advocating for enough stimulus, he had a bad response to Syria, and his approach to civil liberties has been atrocious. See? That's not too hard!

I would agree with you Bush's incompetence in some areas is matched if not exceeded by Obama's decrepitude.
 

cubby1223

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You haven't heard? Instead of praising Obama they are saying it's the mark of a worsening economy
We live in a global economy.

Japan slipped back into recession. Germany's growth has stalled. Consider Germany is the nation propping up the EU. Brazil is stalled. There is a concern how much fraud is propping up China's numbers and if it will soon implode.

ECB's negative interest rates is causing a lot of money to move over to the U.S. What I've been hearing from friends of mine who's job it is to study the effects of ECB's move, it's not going to be good for the commoners here in the U.S. in the coming years.

Do you think one day, righties will get tired of being lied to?

Whatever you must do to keep your ego alive.
 

Fern

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no. US companies are selling the oil they get from US soil to countries abroad.
even factoring shipping that oil on tankers, they get more profit.

so no, drilling on US soil does NOT help the people living in the US

US oil exports are generally banned and have been for decades.

Even so, US oil production means we need less foreign oil. That reduction in foreign demand should help lower foreigners' prices.

If we start exporting it's likely we'll face higher prices and foreigners will benefit with lower prices.

Fern
 

Atreus21

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You'll notice that your video consists of democrats criticizing bush's energy policy and his unwillingness to invest in alternative fuel. I didn't hear a single person say bush was to blame for high gas prices except one reference about how "some people are saying it's bush's fault", with zero examples of these people. In fact, in your clip I didn't even hear someone say bush's energy policies were causing higher gas prices. What I did hear was news anchors stating facts about the price of gas in relation to the start and beginning of bush's term. If you think that means they are blaming bush, well that's your own insecurities kicking in

...you are claiming that drawing correlations between Bush's presidency and high gas prices is not implicitly blaming Bush for high gas prices?

I mean I've seen some intellectual dishonesty, but good gravy.
 
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Atreus21

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True and you could probably argue that US companies not being allowed to export have kept prices lower than they otherwise would be.

For us. Meanwhile, the rest of the world is beholden mostly to our enemies for oil.
 

Matt1970

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I'd bet that there isn't a single level-headed lefty on these forums who claimed it was Bush's fault. The only ones who ever blamed Bush, or blamed Obama were people with little understanding of the market, and disingenuous people who merely want to create extra divisiveness.

Incidentally, do you have any links to back up your statement? I personally can't recall anyone on these forums blaming Bush when the price was high.

There are a few in here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oaq2fHiOOY

Pelosi, Clinton, ABC News just to name a few.
 

Cstefan

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Do you think one day, righties will get tired of being lied to?

Right around the same day libs get tired of being lied to by dems? They are politicians, they didn't get there by being honest upstanding people. They got there by being ruthless money grubbing scumbags.
 

Londo_Jowo

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My bad, I totally forgot about the rights boogeyman, those evil lefties.



Do you guys ever get tired of smelling your own shit?

Do you get tired of all your "hypotheticals" (wink, wink) being proven wrong? Videos you try to blow off have proven you to be wrong yet again. Another day, more BS from poor butthurt McShame.
 
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