So America has decided to pick a black man over a woman for Pres nomination

[Jaskalas]

Hell, I?ll be voting for him not because he?s black or white, but because McCain is no conservative. I judge people by their actions, only the racists will play the race card.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Hell, I?ll be voting for him not because he?s black or white, but because McCain is no conservative. I judge people by their actions, only the racists will play the race card.

so, because McCain isn't conservative enough... you'll be voting for an outright liberal?

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Hell, I?ll be voting for him not because he?s black or white, but because McCain is no conservative. I judge people by their actions, only the racists will play the race card.

so, because McCain isn't conservative enough... you'll be voting for an outright liberal?

You may not have noticed but conservative is the bad word and being liberal is good.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Hell, I?ll be voting for him not because he?s black or white, but because McCain is no conservative. I judge people by their actions, only the racists will play the race card.

so, because McCain isn't conservative enough... you'll be voting for an outright liberal?

That's like asking me if I want the Republican Party stained once again by pro-government (Patriot Acts, Wiretapping), pro-illegal, and complete retardation (war blunders). The answer is no, let those traits belong to their proper owners.

The party will stand for the people against the government, or it should burn.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Hell, I?ll be voting for him not because he?s black or white, but because McCain is no conservative. I judge people by their actions, only the racists will play the race card.

so, because McCain isn't conservative enough... you'll be voting for an outright liberal?

You may not have noticed but conservative is the bad word and being liberal is good.

read the quote I was replying to.

I just don't understand how someone could justify voting for a liberal because the other guy isn't conservative enough.

I mean, I'm sure there are reasons that have nothing to do with the issues and more with personality/whatever, it just makes no sense to a cold-hearted cynical issues voter

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: JEDI
never would have thought Hilary would lose to Obama given the history of the US.

would have thought racism > sexism.

apparently, i'm wrong. america rather vote male of any race, than a female.

Its not because shes a woman, its because the woman is Hillary.

 

[OFFascist]

Didnt you know? Bros before hos.

I actually would have prefered Hillary to win the nomination, she would probably be easier to beat in November, and if not atleast she isnt as anti-gun as Obama, which is a pretty fucking sad thing to say.

Obama has said he would want to ban all semi-auto rifles, and concealed carry.

Hillary so far "only" said she would push for a new assault weapon ban, which I'm definately also against.

I figure well even if Hillary would win in November people still dont like her, and would vote agains ther anti-gun laws. What I fear is that if Obama gets in, his cult of personality would get democrats in congress to just go along with whatever he wants.

I'm voting for McCain in November.

 

[compuwiz1]

Uh-ohs, I think we are headed toward another Republican presidency. It's doubful either of them can obtain the necessary number of delegates, supers included, to get the official nomination.

This is a huge problem for the country.

Teh angry white men might actually be needed to pick some cotton.

 

[jpeyton]

America would've picked the woman candidate if she was hotter.

Maybe one of these MILFs or GILFs.

The Hildebeast is too ugly to get elected.

 

[timosyy]

Originally posted by: Farang
I wish that was longer because from the sound of it the crowd did not go along with it at all :laugh:

They didn't.

Much higher quality (and rest of speech): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhCikLeXb7c

 

[M0RPH]

The truth is the OP's comments are very much relevant and on target. If this campaign has shown us anything, it's shown us that sexism is MUCH more tolerated in this country than racism (perceived racsim, even).

Constantly here and elsewhere I have seen people criticize Hillary for her looks, her voice, being a bitch (a common perception of powerful women), for not being sutable to lead the country because our enemies will see us as weak with a woman leader, etc. All of these things are based in sexism but nobody is offended much by them.

Now imagine the same types of criticism against Obama based on him being a black man. I could give you examples, but I won't because the mere mention of any would immediately have people screaming "racist" at me. Obama is basically immune to any type of critism that could in any remotely possible way be construed as racism.

So yeah, racism >> sexism. It's much easier to attack and demean a woman than a black man.

What I find sad is that women in this country cannot get behind a woman candidate. Blacks have rallied behind Obama almost universally. You would think that women would like to see our first woman president, something to show their daughters that women can do anything in this world. The unfortunate truth is that women are mostly sheep and followers of their men, and they are frequently very petty and critical of other women.

We may never see a woman president.

 

[M0RPH]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
America would've picked the woman candidate if she was hotter.

Maybe one of these MILFs or GILFs.

The Hildebeast is too ugly to get elected.

Need i say more to back up my case? There are far too many dbags like above in this country.

 

[spittledip]

Originally posted by: M0RPH
The truth is the OP's comments are very much relevant and on target. If this campaign has shown us anything, it's shown us that sexism is MUCH more tolerated in this country than racism (perceived racsim, even).

Constantly here and elsewhere I have seen people criticize Hillary for her looks, her voice, being a bitch (a common perception of powerful women), for not being sutable to lead the country because our enemies will see us as weak with a woman leader, etc. All of these things are based in sexism but nobody is offended much by them.

Now imagine the same types of criticism against Obama based on him being a black man. I could give you examples, but I won't because the mere mention of any would immediately have people screaming "racist" at me. Obama is basically immune to any type of critism that could in any remotely possible way be construed as racism.

So yeah, racism >> sexism. It's much easier to attack and demean a woman than a black man.

What I find sad is that women in this country cannot get behind a woman candidate. Blacks have rallied behind Obama almost universally. You would think that women would like to see our first woman president, something to show their daughters that women can do anything in this world. The unfortunate truth is that women are mostly sheep and followers of their men, and they are frequently very petty and critical of other women.

We may never see a woman president.

Man, you are way off. it is unfair to assume that people do not like her b/c she is a powerful woman. She is a powerful woman, but she is also a bitch. As oppose to m wife who is a powerful woman but is not a bitch. Power and bitchiness are not the same thing and are not perceived as the same thing by the voters for the most part. People are very familiar with clinton and her striving to make a name for herself and then pretending to give a damn about the country... as well as her sordid past. That is how she became known as a bitch.

The truth is, if she were truly a powerful woman, she wouldn't have needed to be a bitch. when one is powerful, they do not desire to have power over others. their own power is sufficient for them. Only the weak seek to become powerful.

edit: also, sometimes the powerful come into powerful positions naturally or as part of their passion. This does not describe HRC as she has striven to gain power. There is nothing natural about it- this is another thing that is very unappealing about her- her seeming thirst for power, not the power that she actually has.. which is little to begin with.

 

[GroundedSailor]

I'll take sexism and racism over more-of-the-same-McCain and amend-the-Constitution-so-it?s-in-God?s-standards-Huckabee any day.

 

[GroundedSailor]

Originally posted by: spittledip

Originally posted by: M0RPH
The truth is the OP's comments are very much relevant and on target. If this campaign has shown us anything, it's shown us that sexism is MUCH more tolerated in this country than racism (perceived racsim, even).

Constantly here and elsewhere I have seen people criticize Hillary for her looks, her voice, being a bitch (a common perception of powerful women), for not being sutable to lead the country because our enemies will see us as weak with a woman leader, etc. All of these things are based in sexism but nobody is offended much by them.

Now imagine the same types of criticism against Obama based on him being a black man. I could give you examples, but I won't because the mere mention of any would immediately have people screaming "racist" at me. Obama is basically immune to any type of critism that could in any remotely possible way be construed as racism.

So yeah, racism >> sexism. It's much easier to attack and demean a woman than a black man.

What I find sad is that women in this country cannot get behind a woman candidate. Blacks have rallied behind Obama almost universally. You would think that women would like to see our first woman president, something to show their daughters that women can do anything in this world. The unfortunate truth is that women are mostly sheep and followers of their men, and they are frequently very petty and critical of other women.

We may never see a woman president.

Man, you are way off. it is unfair to assume that people do not like her b/c she is a powerful woman. She is a powerful woman, but she is also a bitch. As oppose to m wife who is a powerful woman but is not a bitch. Power and bitchiness are not the same thing and are not perceived as the same thing by the voters for the most part. People are very familiar with clinton and her striving to make a name for herself and then pretending to give a damn about the country... as well as her sordid past. That is how she became known as a bitch.

The truth is, if she were truly a powerful woman, she wouldn't have needed to be a bitch. when one is powerful, they do not desire to have power over others. their own power is sufficient for them. Only the weak seek to become powerful.

edit: also, sometimes the powerful come into powerful positions naturally or as part of their passion. This does not describe HRC as she has striven to gain power. There is nothing natural about it- this is another thing that is very unappealing about her- her seeming thirst for power, not the power that she actually has.. which is little to begin with.

And you think any presidential candidate is not in the race for power? You make me laugh.

 

[jpeyton]

There is only one solution: nominate Oprah for President.

Then you can't accuse Americans of being racist or sexist.

 

[GroundedSailor]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
There is only one solution: nominate Oprah for President.

Then you can't accuse Americans of being racist or sexist.

Ouch! :disgust: :roll:

 

[spittledip]

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor

Originally posted by: spittledip

Originally posted by: M0RPH
The truth is the OP's comments are very much relevant and on target. If this campaign has shown us anything, it's shown us that sexism is MUCH more tolerated in this country than racism (perceived racsim, even).

Constantly here and elsewhere I have seen people criticize Hillary for her looks, her voice, being a bitch (a common perception of powerful women), for not being sutable to lead the country because our enemies will see us as weak with a woman leader, etc. All of these things are based in sexism but nobody is offended much by them.

Now imagine the same types of criticism against Obama based on him being a black man. I could give you examples, but I won't because the mere mention of any would immediately have people screaming "racist" at me. Obama is basically immune to any type of critism that could in any remotely possible way be construed as racism.

So yeah, racism >> sexism. It's much easier to attack and demean a woman than a black man.

What I find sad is that women in this country cannot get behind a woman candidate. Blacks have rallied behind Obama almost universally. You would think that women would like to see our first woman president, something to show their daughters that women can do anything in this world. The unfortunate truth is that women are mostly sheep and followers of their men, and they are frequently very petty and critical of other women.

We may never see a woman president.

Man, you are way off. it is unfair to assume that people do not like her b/c she is a powerful woman. She is a powerful woman, but she is also a bitch. As oppose to m wife who is a powerful woman but is not a bitch. Power and bitchiness are not the same thing and are not perceived as the same thing by the voters for the most part. People are very familiar with clinton and her striving to make a name for herself and then pretending to give a damn about the country... as well as her sordid past. That is how she became known as a bitch.

The truth is, if she were truly a powerful woman, she wouldn't have needed to be a bitch. when one is powerful, they do not desire to have power over others. their own power is sufficient for them. Only the weak seek to become powerful.

edit: also, sometimes the powerful come into powerful positions naturally or as part of their passion. This does not describe HRC as she has striven to gain power. There is nothing natural about it- this is another thing that is very unappealing about her- her seeming thirst for power, not the power that she actually has.. which is little to begin with.

And you think any presidential candidate is not in the race for power? You make me laugh.

read carefully. I never said anything contrary to that.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Mail5398
There are a lot of women I would vote for, Hillary Clinton is not one of them. She has already been President according to her. Give someone else a chance.

Really? A lot? Name three. (Just curious.)

 

[StageLeft]

After morph's statement, he is right it is acceptable to be sexist in this country but racism can get you fired immediately or demonized for almost nothing at all. I've heard plenty of comments about Hillary that are silly like how women don't age well and she'd be a bad face for the gov because of that.

I still think she is losing because she's overall not seen as such a good candidate, but I must concede that race/sexism is having some part in this election to at least some people.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: JEDI
never would have thought Hilary would lose to Obama given the history of the US.

would have thought racism > sexism.

apparently, i'm wrong. america rather vote male of any race, than a female.

Obama is promoting a much needed change.

Hillary is the same old rhetoric and she is an evil POS

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: JEDI
never would have thought Hilary would lose to Obama given the history of the US.

would have thought racism > sexism.

apparently, i'm wrong. america rather vote male of any race, than a female.

Obama is promoting a much needed change.

Hillary is the same old rhetoric and she is an evil POS

Who plays the victim card so much you think she was getting Victims compensation.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: JEDI
never would have thought Hilary would lose to Obama given the history of the US.

would have thought racism > sexism.

apparently, i'm wrong. america rather vote male of any race, than a female.

Obama is promoting a much needed change.

Hillary is the same old rhetoric and she is an evil POS

Who plays the victim card so much you think she was getting Victims compensation.

Yeah, Obama would never approve of playing the victim...
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes...ads-in-the-big-states/
?We know what it feels like being used as a scapegoat just because of our background and last name,? says Representative Luis Gutierrez, whose district includes part of Chicago, in Spanish. ?And no one understands this better than Barack Obama!?

 

[PingSpike]

So the whole arguement we have here is that voters in the democratic primary are obviously sexist and racist and it makes no sense that racism didn't win the day. Which hardly explains the piss poor showing by all the other democratic candidates...who all were rich old white dudes last time I checked.

And its kind of hard to blame sexism when women hold a solid majority of democratic voters.

I thought it was funny when I think it was Pabster linked to an article called "Feminists perplexed by Clinton losing". It was like they were annoying that all the women weren't blindly following their cult mission.

 

[palehorse]

Hayabusa had it correct in the second reply here...

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Or maybe they just voted for the candidate they felt best to do the job.

Anyone who blames Clinton's pending loss on gender is a fvcking idiot.