So apparently Global Warming is to blame for China's snow

[jagec]

Originally posted by: potato28
Warming =! Snow.

You guys are idiots.

This is why the scientific community is referring to it as "climate change" now, because the public is stupid.

 

[warmodder]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: potato28
Warming =! Snow.

You guys are idiots.

This is why the scientific community is referring to it as "climate change" now, because the public is stupid.

Or the name is stupid and people are literal.

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: Eli
Global warming doesn't mean the whole planet is going to turn tropical.

It means a shift in weather patterns.

And weather patterns have constantly shifted through all of time. So why give a shit about global warming?

Because they will be rapid, extreme changes as opposed to a long, natural progression where the organic inhabitants evolve as well. The rise in sea level is a significant concern when you consider the location of the majority of the world's population.

http://www.ucar.edu/communicat...s/World_population.jpg

http://www.transboundarywaters...ation_distribution.gif

If you think all natural climate shifts have been long term, you need to share whatever you're smoking. There's evidence of non-asteroid/volcanic shifts of several degrees over a few decades. (As opposed to our 1 degree in 100 years).

And no, I'm not going to scour the internet for links.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: warmodder

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: potato28
Warming =! Snow.

You guys are idiots.

This is why the scientific community is referring to it as "climate change" now, because the public is stupid.

Or the name is stupid and people are literal.

People are stupid for being literal.

The name is meant to describe the overall temperature increase across the globe (hence the term GLOBAL warming, not LOCAL warming), not indicate that temperatures in every single region are only going to go up from now on. It's a valid term, because it describes the fundamental change which is leading to climate change.

Originally posted by: dainthomas
If you think all natural climate shifts have been long term, you need to share whatever you're smoking. There's evidence of non-asteroid/volcanic shifts of several degrees over a few decades. (As opposed to our 1 degree in 100 years).

And no, I'm not going to scour the internet for links.

Even if you don't believe CO2 measurements which suggest (but do not prove) that this warming period may be worse than previous ones, even if you completely and utterly reject human contributions to climate change, the fact remains that climate change is real, is happening, and will affect weather patterns, growing regions, and water availability in ways which are of the utmost importance to human beings, and plans should be made NOW to deal with this.

Even if you hate the planet and everything on it, out of pure self-interest it behooves us to deal with this problem!

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: jagec
Even if you hate the planet and everything on it, out of pure self-interest it behooves us to deal with this problem!

What if we're actually helping ourselves by postponing the next ice age? :shocked:

Besides, fossil fuels will run out eventually.

 

[NanoStuff]

China needs to burn more fossil fuels to get rid of the snow.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: Queasy
Global Warming also caused the tornadoes the other day that hit Tennessee according to John Kerry.

Considering we've been hit by tornadoes on a yearly basis since before I was born, I'm going to go ahead and say he's wrong.

 

[Cogman]

Well, I don't worry about global warming because fossil fuels are due to run out about 7 years ago... oh wait. I mean, Global cooling should counter act it 30 years ago... umm errr. I mean the hole in the ozone should let the heat excape... err noo, ummmm.

Please, give it about 10 more years and then I might start trusting it, but for now it is still in the fad stages. Ultimatly, it is something that we can't stop at all. You think buying hybrids and using solar power will make everything instantly better? Think again. If anything, the one tech that could have a massive effect on the amount of fossil fuels consumed, nuclear power, is the thing that most global warming nut-jobs oppose the most.

Don't get me wrong, I am all for using cheaper, more effecient things. But I don't like the whole "Buy it or BURN" Additude that has been taken by the save the earth people.

 

[Lurknomore]

Of course there is global warming.
The earth's inner core is made of iron.
It gets heated by the sun.
The heated iron warms the outer core, mantle and everything above it.
Also, heated metal expands, which explains why the earth is growing and, thus answers this thread: http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2151876&enterthread=y

 

[Shame]

Global warming will get rid of all sorts of annoying things: Polar Bears (they bite), the entire State of Florida (too dumb to vote), New York City (Clinton), and terrorists. We need more global warming, and we need it now!

 

[ultimatebob]

I blame Al Gore and his damned movie for this! Why can't we go back to the good ol' days where we ignored the problem and it wasn't a big deal?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Anubis
Global Warming killed my father and raped my mother

Shot my dog too!

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

I won't even read ht article since this was predicted years ago. As the ice sheets melt, more fresh water will be introduced to the oceans, causing hte jet stream to slow. This slowing will bring less warm air up north (west of Europe) causing the area to cool.

And I'm sure that people know that several years ago (maybe just a year ago) that the jet stream actually stopped for 11 days.

 

[FleshLight]

Originally posted by: Lurknomore
Of course there is global warming.
The earth's inner core is made of iron.
It gets heated by the sun.
The heated iron warms the outer core, mantle and everything above it.
Also, heated metal expands, which explains why the earth is growing and, thus answers this thread: http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2151876&enterthread=y

Learn science plz.

 

[Throckmorton]

Actually more warmth directly leads to more snow because there's more evaporation. This is a well known phenomenon in geomorphology and meteorology

 

[Lurknomore]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Anubis
Global Warming killed my father and raped my mother

Shot my dog too!

SONOFABITCH!!!
I mean global warming, not your pooch.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
I won't even read ht article since this was predicted years ago. As the ice sheets melt, more fresh water will be introduced to the oceans, causing hte jet stream to slow. This slowing will bring less warm air up north (west of Europe) causing the area to cool.

And I'm sure that people know that several years ago (maybe just a year ago) that the jet stream actually stopped for 11 days.

Sorry, no, but the whole Arctic melting will kill the Gulf Stream bit was never more than media sensationalism, much less any kind of actual theory.

If global warming is involved in a winter snow storm falling within the norm for long-term climate patterns (which I doubt), then it would be because increased warming leads to more energetic weather patterns, more turbulence, etc.

Regardless, pointing to a single weather event as evidence of global warming is akin to pointing to Loose Change as proof of a 9/11 conspiracy. In other words, you're discrediting the argument, not helping.

 

[destrekor]

does nobody realize scientists have stopped referring to it as Global Warming, and now call it Global Climate Change? This change in naming happened when they learned more themselves. First they just thought the whole planet would get warmer, then discovered that the climates will swing in polar opposite directions based on seasonal differences, and cause extreme weather patterns. Basically, worse news for us. Nature is an effective killer.

Originally posted by: Lurknomore
Of course there is global warming.
The earth's inner core is made of iron.
It gets heated by the sun.
The heated iron warms the outer core, mantle and everything above it.
Also, heated metal expands, which explains why the earth is growing and, thus answers this thread: http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2151876&enterthread=y

ah so global warming caused the breakup of Pangaea? That's another to add to the list. Damn that nature.. she really is a bitch.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
I won't even read ht article since this was predicted years ago. As the ice sheets melt, more fresh water will be introduced to the oceans, causing hte jet stream to slow. This slowing will bring less warm air up north (west of Europe) causing the area to cool.

And I'm sure that people know that several years ago (maybe just a year ago) that the jet stream actually stopped for 11 days.

Gulf stream in the ocean, jet stream in the sky. The gulf stream runs up our Eastern coast, bringing warm water to the Western coast of Europe.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
I won't even read ht article since this was predicted years ago. As the ice sheets melt, more fresh water will be introduced to the oceans, causing hte jet stream to slow. This slowing will bring less warm air up north (west of Europe) causing the area to cool.

And I'm sure that people know that several years ago (maybe just a year ago) that the jet stream actually stopped for 11 days.

Sorry, no, but the whole Arctic melting will kill the Gulf Stream bit was never more than media sensationalism, much less any kind of actual theory.

If global warming is involved in a winter snow storm falling within the norm for long-term climate patterns (which I doubt), then it would be because increased warming leads to more energetic weather patterns, more turbulence, etc.

Regardless, pointing to a single weather event as evidence of global warming is akin to pointing to Loose Change as proof of a 9/11 conspiracy. In other words, you're discrediting the argument, not helping.

actually it was/is a credible theory, but would only effect Northern Europe and bring them inline with how their weather really should be based on their geographical location. The Gulf Stream is only part of a larger circuit, the larger circuit should remain intact in some shape or form though. The whole point was fresh water would disrupt the salt balance, which the gulf stream dumps the warm(er) [less dense] water up near the UK, and the colder and more dense water sinks (and yes, whirlpools have been recorded in the region due to the rapidly sinking water, however they are small and don't last long, conditions gotta be right for one to develop in the process). If you introduce fresh water, the key is the difference in densities between salt and fresh water. This may or may not have a major impact on the Gulf Stream. Scientists are split as it's really hard to predict. The very idea of such a thing existing boggles my mind. An underwater current that delivers warmer water, and has an impact on U.K. weather? How'd they get that lucky? Should be cold as hell up there. lol

btw, they believe this may have actually happened once before. It wasn't the little ice age, which was in the 1600s iirc, but what I was reading referring to it as 'a little ice age', it was a long time ago when the [what is now known as] Hudson Bay (or was it the Great Lakes region?) was covered by a glacier and, of course.. it melted. Of course, it was too much water for the region, some stayed obviously and began to shape what is currently either the Hudson Bay or Great Lakes (i'll have to do more research, no time now, gotta actually get back to studying. damn this stuff actually interesting me), however a good amount spilled down the St Lawrence River and into the ocean. Well, all the fresh water supposedly had an effect on the gulf stream and this event is supposed to coincide with a relatively major climate change.
Sorry so vague. But I gotta get back to the books.

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: dainthomas

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: Eli
Global warming doesn't mean the whole planet is going to turn tropical.

It means a shift in weather patterns.

And weather patterns have constantly shifted through all of time. So why give a shit about global warming?

Because they will be rapid, extreme changes as opposed to a long, natural progression where the organic inhabitants evolve as well. The rise in sea level is a significant concern when you consider the location of the majority of the world's population.

http://www.ucar.edu/communicat...s/World_population.jpg

http://www.transboundarywaters...ation_distribution.gif

If you think all natural climate shifts have been long term, you need to share whatever you're smoking. There's evidence of non-asteroid/volcanic shifts of several degrees over a few decades. (As opposed to our 1 degree in 100 years).

And no, I'm not going to scour the internet for links.

There is no need to save the Earth, it has been here far longer than humans and will still be here long after we are extinct.

Were those degree shifts up or down in temp.? What was the current state of the ice caps/glaciers and how did the temp changes affect water levels? Was the world as populated? Just because in previous history a similar change did not have catastrophic results one cannot assume the same end game should it happen again.

They are projecting up to a 7 degree upswing in temps, and a 20 foot + rise in sea levels.
Scientists are witnessing the far reaching effects of global climate change and the future does not look rosy. Bury your head in the sand, it won't change it from happening.

 

[bigal40]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
I won't even read ht article since this was predicted years ago. As the ice sheets melt, more fresh water will be introduced to the oceans, causing hte jet stream to slow. This slowing will bring less warm air up north (west of Europe) causing the area to cool.

And I'm sure that people know that several years ago (maybe just a year ago) that the jet stream actually stopped for 11 days.

Thanks for you expert analysis.

I just can't stop laughing............the jet stream.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: potato28
Warming =! Snow.

you = need to learn more about global warming

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: sdifox
wtf people, global warming leads to loss of moderate weather, replace with extreme weather conditions. Watch The Day after Tomorrow. The science explanation part is not bad.

easily one of the most bullshit movies i've ever seen ever, but he's right.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: Queasy
Global Warming also caused the tornadoes the other day that hit Tennessee according to John Kerry.

Considering we've been hit by tornadoes on a yearly basis since before I was born, I'm going to go ahead and say he's wrong.

Seriously. Kerry's comment actually pisses me off considering this actually had some affect on me and he is trying to turn it into a bs political issue. Meh.