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Hayabusa Rider

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I Arnt book larnt enuff, to rite so polytly, as the great gentlefolks, that rite in the News-Papers, about Pollyticks. I think it is pitty, they should know how to rite so well, saving they made a better use ont. And that they might do, if they would rite about something else. They do say we are a matter a million of muney in det. If so be the matter be so, I dont see but the Cunstibles must dragg two thirds on us to goal, for our land and housen and creeturs wont pay tacksis, without ther is muney to sell them for. And I am shure ther arnt haff a million of muney amongst us. And now the war is done, we cant bring in any more amungst us.—In the war time I could sell my fatt ocksen, and sheep, and every thing I could raise on my place, for a pretty good round price in muney. So that the war did me some good, 'tho' I lost by it two of my sons, as stout young fellows as ever took a man by the sholders. But now I cant sell any thing, because nobody has no muney hardly. And they do say that amost all the muney folks can rake and scrape, is sent away by water to buy Corn and Hemp and such like, besides that that is sent to buy fine cloths. As to finery gentlefolks may do what they ples, for we cant make um so fine here as they bring um from Lunnun. But I know we can raise as good Ingean corn here as they can in Virginny, and as good Wheet as they can in Connetticut, and folks say we could raise as good Hemp, as they raise in any part of the world. And if so be, this be true we might raise anuff amongst us, to send to Lunnun to pay for our fine cloths; for they do say, it fetches a nation price, and they want abundance of it ther, about their shipping, but no body amungst us knows how to raise it.

What I'me ater is, to get some great larnt gentleman, who has been to Old Ingland, and knows how they raise Hemp there, and can read books about it, and understand um, to print in your News, some direckshon, about it, that we may go to trying, for we cant afford to run venters, by working, may be, a month and then have nothing come of it for want of working right.—I'le affirm it, a little short piece in the print, no bigger than these few lines I send you at this present riting, if it did but tell us how to raise Hemp, how to fitt our land and feed, how and when to sow it, how to gather the crop and when, and how to dress it, and suck like would do a thousand pounds worth of good.

Seems to me folks must have a queer kind of souls to love to study, to fling dirt and play hide and seek in the News, better to walk or ride about the country, in good weather, and study like King Solomon, the Herbs from the Cedar of Lebanon to the Hysop in the wall. I'le avouch it I've took more delight in looking upon a bunch of leeves, or blossoms, or sprigs of grass for two hours together, to see how nice and pretty it is made, than I ever did last winter, or spring in reeding any of them scolding pieces in the News, and yet tho' I want bro't up to College I love to reed.

I wonder why folks will rite so as they do in the News, they make amost all the world hate um for it. whereas I'le say it they could make every body love um if they would rite about farming, and teech country folks how to pay their rates by rasing hemp and such like. For it would be strange, if we in a land of light were not as good as Heathens, and I've seen it in a sermon book, that they worshipt, even arter he was dead, that man that taut um how to use Grapes, and tother too that taut um how to sow corn and such like. Thes Pagans were fools to worship um, tho it shows that they lov'd and honour'd the man that did um good, which we Chrischans dont always do, tho I hope most of us should.—Sum of our ministers say that none of thes heathens are sav'd, which I cant hardly beleeve.

I do say that our great knowing rich men cant answer it to a good conshence, if they dont take sum panes and spend sum muney too, to learn us little ignorant poor folks how to pay our rates, and get a living, dont they remember the parable of the Talents!—besides we have work'd hard and lost our sons and brothers in the war, to defend them in hole skins, and got so far in det that we cant pay saving they contrive sum way for us.—I wonder whether they ever sit alone and medetate.—If they did their bowels would yerne toward us.—I sit up sumtimes till 12 a Clock at night thinking about myself and Naibours our land and stock and rates, and about the war, and about my too poor dear sons, one of um died of a camp fevur, and tother was skalp'd by the Ingeans, till my hart is redy to burst and my eyes run over. I'm shure if I had as much larning, books and time to spaer from my labor, with my poor abillitys, thof I say it, I could find out 20 ways of teeching mankind things they want to know, and helping um pay their dets and live comfortable.

Good Mr. Elliot did rite sumthing once about farming, but not enuff about Hemp.—I see his book tother day, poor man he's ded now, but our loss in his gain.—I red a good deel in his book, and like it extrordinary well. I wish I had one of um. I suppose I could get one for haff a dollur. I think I'le leeve off tacking the News papers for haff a yeer, and bye one, and in haff a yeer I hope the News will get cleer again of so much wicked langage, and ripping and rending of one grate man agenst another! There's sundry leeves at the end ont, put out by a fine man, folks say I know him, I've seen him ride by my house, and thof I durst not speek to him yet I'm a fool for it, for they say he's a nice good-natur'd free Gentleman, yet I love him for the pains he has took to make folks ditch their meadows, and sow Wheet and Hemp and such like.

I do say it would be a nice thing if we could raise enuff Hemp to pay our rates, and bye a little rum and shuger, which we cant well do without, and a little Tea, which our Wifes wont let us have any peace without.

I've been as long as a sarmon amost, so I wont rite no more at present. Sumbody put a lettur of mine into the print tother day that I was asham'd to see there, so I wanted to let the world know I could if I try'd both spell and word a lettur, abundance better than that was, and I have told um sum things they would do well to think on, when they go to bed and when they get up, if their Wifes dont pester um too much. So I remain your's to sarve.

Humphrey Ploughjogger

P.S. Seems to me if grate Men dont leeve off writing Pollyticks, breaking Heads, boxing Ears, ringing Noses and kicking Breeches, we shall by and by want a world of Hemp more for our own consumshon.
Now that's the longest TL;DR I never wanted to read.
 

Puffnstuff

Lifer
Mar 9, 2005
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I'm finding this new administration to be quite energizing and entertaining. The Ringling Brothers didn't stand a chance against this level of competition and I'm cheering the Don onward. His brand of ultra-liberalism hiding behind a cloak of familiarity is just too funny and his ring masters are just over the top. I look forward to the next big top event.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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I didn't read it but apparently this judges rationale lacked any (many) legal citations and will lost likely be overturned.

He is an activist judge and has no legal ground to stand on.

So, you admit that your judgement is based on willful ignorance.

Post-truth all the way.
 
Jan 25, 2011
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It's disturbing checking some of the right wing forums and all of them are calling for the removal of these judges for daring to defy Trump. They want no checks or balances against it. More and more it seems like they want a dictatorship. They praise Putin. Call for arrest of the judiciary.

Said it before and I'll say it again. You guys are fucked.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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There have been many very bad and dangerous people pouring into the White House since January 20. Time to really clear the swamp, starting on Pennsylvania Avenue.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Remember that time obama doj attorneys were ordered to undergo mandatory ethics training because they lied to a judge repeatedly.

Remember how you always need to divert when some uncomfortable truth is revealed?

You basically said "I don't know what I'm talking about but I'll voice my strong opinion."

You seem to think that involved some sort of analytical thought on your part, as well.
 

LegendKiller

Lifer
Mar 5, 2001
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Remember how you always need to divert when some uncomfortable truth is revealed?

You basically said "I don't know what I'm talking about but I'll voice my strong opinion."

You seem to think that involved some sort of analytical thought on your part, as well.
Not a diversion, a juxtaposition.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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Not a diversion, a juxtaposition.

'I didn't read it but it's likely to be thrown out'. Lol.

He is only one in a long line of judges to shit all over this order. Maybe that's why other, actually competent, presidents put a little more care into crafting their orders.

Trump is just pathetically flailing at this point and it's only been two weeks.
 

emperus

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Apr 6, 2012
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I didn't read it but apparently this judges rationale lacked any (many) legal citations and will lost likely be overturned.

He is an activist judge and has no legal ground to stand on.
What a post. You should get some sort of award for it.
 

cbrunny

Diamond Member
Oct 12, 2007
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If anyone comes into the country now and commits a terrorist attack, it will be Schumer and his activist judges who will be to blame. Again the DNC has taken the bait and the the yoke of blame and responsibility.
Well that comment is incorrect.
 

cbrunny

Diamond Member
Oct 12, 2007
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Equal protection is a flimsy argument and so is due process. This same government would probably not extend Equal Protection to polygamists and use a couple of reasons why it's in the state's interest to do so (Canada did this a few years ago). The same govenrment also says **** all to due process when it comes to some issues (e.g. marijuana).
Uh, are you talking about this:

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/c...sh-columbia-go-on-trial-for-child-trafficking

It is the first trial of its kind, despite years of rumours and investigations into allegations of sexual exploitation, abuse and human trafficking. It comes nearly three decades after the first in a long string of B.C. attorneys general refused to lay charges against some of the group’s founders because of legal opinions warning that the Constitution’s guarantee of religious freedom might protect the practices in Bountiful.

November 2010 – Hearings begin in B.C. Supreme Court to determine the constitutionality of Canada’s polygamy law. During the hearing, evidence is presented about Canadian parents who had taken their under-aged daughters to the United States to become plural wives. A year later, Chief Justice Robert Bauman determines that the law is constitutional.



Some were also entered as evidence in B.C. Supreme Court in 2011 during the constitutional reference case along with a sworn affidavit from Texas Ranger Nick Hanna pointing to the documents related to 13 girls from Bountiful who ended up in celestial marriages in the United States.

Among those 13 girls were two 12-year-olds and a 13-year-old “sealed” in marriages to Jeffs in 2004. At the time, Jeffs was 49 and a fugitive.

Hanna’s affidavit includes Jeffs’s description of a wedding day in 2004 in Colorado City, Ariz. with the names of the B.C. parents and the girls excerpted.

It also mentions that the documents mention Oler’s name “in a number of other marriages.”

According to the documents and Hanna’s affidavit, both of the 13-year-old’s parents participated at the Arizona ceremony.

You should choose a different argument. Yours is wrong.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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I'm surprised Trump's haven't been Judge shopping to find one to overrule this Judge.

That wouldn't really be possible. The government can't judge shop because they are the defendants, meaning they don't choose where the lawsuit is brought against them. Anyway, another district court judge couldn't overrule this one as they aren't a superior court. I guess it could provide some legal cover/confusion for the administration to exploit though.

Regardless, the issue is already in front of the 9th circuit which declined to issue a stay, meaning they think the plaintiffs will likely prevail on the merits. Once a circuit court rules in favor of this injunction the EO is functionally dead anyway unless SCOTUS intervenes. Even if the government got a favorable ruling in another part of the country the EO would be enjoined in all the areas the 9th circuit covers, meaning that people wanting to immigrate from those countries would simply have to come through a 9th circuit airport.
 
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I wouldn't call it slander...
yea, well, it kinda is
slan·der
ˈslandər/
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    the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.
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verb
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    make false and damaging statements about (someone).
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    synonyms: defame (someone's character), blacken someone's name, tell lies about, speak ill/evil of, sully someone's reputation, libel, smear, cast aspersions on, spread scandal about, besmirch, tarnish, tain
 
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