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Ctrackstar126

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Does the UAV Jammer perk just hide you from a UAV scan or does it hide you from the radar all the time, like if you shoot a gun without a silencer?

just when people put out the UAV. You will still need the silencer to be ultra sneaky sneaky
 

swtethan

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Originally posted by: Ctrackstar126
Originally posted by: pontifex
Does the UAV Jammer perk just hide you from a UAV scan or does it hide you from the radar all the time, like if you shoot a gun without a silencer?

just when people put out the UAV. You will still need the silencer to be ultra sneaky sneaky

this game sounds juicy
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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it sucks that you can't use a silencer and a scope.

i also wish i could trade the explosives perks for one of the other perks.

the extra health perk doesn't seem to really make much of a difference.
 

BD2003

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Markbnj
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: Markbnj
Originally posted by: BD2003
Im finding the performance to be pretty pitiful on anything but a DX10 card w/ unified shaders. Even the 8600gts seems to be smoking my 7900GT in DX9 mode, and turning on shadows drops FPS really hard, but its either full shadows or all shadows.

The solution for those with the geforce 7 and below:

turn on the console
enter in RendererPreference 0 to change it to pixelshader 2.0 mode.
then enter in vid_restart

It looks nearly the same, lighting isnt as good, but still looks good - framerate is practically double. Why this isnt an option in the menus is absolutely beyond me.

If you really wanna enjoy this game at full settings at 1280x1024 or so, get no less than an 8800gts/gt.

Hey thanks, good tip. This made a big difference for me. It doesn't look as good, but still very pretty and the gameplay is much more fluid. Here's how to make it permanent and avoid the console.

c:\Program Files\Activision\Call of Duty 4 - Modern Warfare\players\profiles\[your name]

Find the file config.cfg and open it in a text editor. Near the bottom you'll see...

seta r_rendererPreference "Default"

Change this to...

seta r_rendererPreference "Shader model 2.0"

Save the file and start the game.

Good stuff. I'm still truly dumbfounded as to why this isnt in the menu. Considering the boost in framerate (seriously, about double) vs. the image quality loss (not too huge, less than most menu options) it doesnt make any sense to keep this hidden. I had to take screenshots to really notice the difference...its primarily some sort of lighting. But even in PS 2.0, shadows, dynamic lights, glow etc - everything is still functioning.

The game is so shader heavy, and you dont have any options to turn things down...just to turn things off. Its either full fps raping shadows, or no shadows at all. But PS 2.0 + Shadows is WAAAY faster than default PS 3.0 w/o shadows, not to mention looks MUCH better...so...wtf?

It really needs a card with unified shaders in order to work well in PS 3.0 mode, and that pretty much leaves everyone without a Geforce 8 and Radeon 2600+ with a really sh*t framerate.

I had to take screenshots to notice the difference between the two modes. Seriously, if you have anything less than a GF8, try this tweak.

It's waaay faster on my 7600GT, which is probably the low end for what you can reasonably run this game on. Appearance-wise... shadows are much blockier, lighting is less dramatic (I think the tweak disables HDR or bloom or whatever they are using for contrast enhancement). I still haven't quite figured out which eye candy options have an effect using the 2.0 shaders, but enabling them all did drop the framerate, so they are doing something. I think that "Depth of field" is supposed to blur things in the background, but I didn't really notice much difference. "Specular map" and "Glow" I understand, but again enabling them in 2.0 mode seemed to drop the framerate without having a huge impact on the visuals. I'm going to look at it again tonight.

Has anyone found options in the game for tweaking the mouse? I didn't see any control options at all. Might have missed them. I play on a widescreen Dell and I need to tweak the mouse response a little. That, or I suck.

As far as I can tell, dropping down to 2.0 is akin to turning on "force global lighting" in bioshock. The lighting is generally much flatter, your gun isnt as shiny, etc.

Bloom = glow, and its def still working in 2.0 though, not sure if its full HDR though.

Dont get me wrong, it certainly looks better in 3.0, but if theres any single option to turn down that has a drastic effect on framerate without absolutely murdering the image (like turning off shadows completely), this is it.
 

FP

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Originally posted by: pontifex
man, i hope there isn't something wrong with my system. hellgate took over an hour and 15 minutes to install and CoD4 is taking over 20 minutes.

Interesting. Mine is doing the same thing. It has now taken over 20 minutes and I am barely past 50%.

Is everything working with your install now?
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: binister
Originally posted by: pontifex
man, i hope there isn't something wrong with my system. hellgate took over an hour and 15 minutes to install and CoD4 is taking over 20 minutes.

Interesting. Mine is doing the same thing. It has now taken over 20 minutes and I am barely past 50%.

Is everything working with your install now?

everything seems to work ok i guess.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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since the master server appears to be down i played some SP.

oh my f-ing god! this tv station is f-ing impossible!

there very littlle cover and those bastards keep coming! i've died like 50 times already...




master server back up.

can any wal be shot through? i just got killed through a concrete wall and i asked and they said it was possible. i thought it was only thin materials? so there is no cover in this game?
 

BD2003

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Am I the only one that is incredibly annoyed by the fact that you cant customize classes during a round, especially once you get a long list of weapons? Cant just pop on a silencer for S&D, a scope etc.

And then after the round, I get like 20 seconds to configure my stuff or check out anything new before I'm unceremoniously kicked *into* the game halfway through customizing. For the love of god, if you're not going to let me customize whenever, dont force me out of it so quickly when I finally get a chance to do so.

Other than that, this game pwns so bad.
 

idiotekniQues

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the graphics are great. the multiplayer browser blows. not being able to tweak your classes in game blows.

the weapons are cool.

the maps are mostly too small for the larger player count servers, its just a big mess which gets old fast.

i think the air strikes are a bit ghey.

this game is probably best around 5v5 or 6v6 where you can get nice and tactical in some of the maps.

the urban maps are just nuts, i like the variety as well, and they are really good looking and the potential for sick urban warfare.

not a huge fan of the unlock system as 2142 was enough of unlocking things to be on par with other players guns and just fighting with skill rather than unlocks.
 

Markbnj

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If you're considering tweaking the .cfg file to enable 2.0 shaders or for some other reason, be aware that you seem to be able to change things in there that would affect the fairness of gameplay, for example cycle time when switching weapons. Maybe because of this I have come across some values that make me suspect that changing this file outside the game might trigger some detection code, either in PB or the game itself. I have played with the tweaked file in SP mode, but it's possible it might cause you problems in MP mode. If anyone has tweaked their .cfg file and played in MP mode let us know how it worked out.
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: Markbnj
If you're considering tweaking the .cfg file to enable 2.0 shaders or for some other reason, be aware that you seem to be able to change things in there that would affect the fairness of gameplay, for example cycle time when switching weapons. Maybe because of this I have come across some values that make me suspect that changing this file outside the game might trigger some detection code, either in PB or the game itself. I have played with the tweaked file in SP mode, but it's possible it might cause you problems in MP mode. If anyone has tweaked their .cfg file and played in MP mode let us know how it worked out.

I never actually tweaked the file. I made the change once in the console, and it seems to have stuck all on its own.
 

daveybrat

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Man, i've paired up the MP5 machine gun with 2 bullet enhancing perks and a red laser dot enhancement and i'm mowing em down
 

BD2003

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That was some ending to act I.

If that was only 1/3rd of the game, it's no shorter than any of the CoDs that came before it, and those were plenty long. I dunno why people are making a big deal about its length. Quality over quantity I say.
 

Markbnj

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Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: Markbnj
If you're considering tweaking the .cfg file to enable 2.0 shaders or for some other reason, be aware that you seem to be able to change things in there that would affect the fairness of gameplay, for example cycle time when switching weapons. Maybe because of this I have come across some values that make me suspect that changing this file outside the game might trigger some detection code, either in PB or the game itself. I have played with the tweaked file in SP mode, but it's possible it might cause you problems in MP mode. If anyone has tweaked their .cfg file and played in MP mode let us know how it worked out.

I never actually tweaked the file. I made the change once in the console, and it seems to have stuck all on its own.

Hmm, the console command must have written the value to the config file. Not what I would expect.

Anyway, played SP for a few more hours tonight, and all I can say is that this game is just unbelievable. Even on the 2.0 shader model the graphic environment is incredible. Crawling through the grass in the sniper mission while an armored platoon passes all around you... wild. I absolutely love the depth of field effect. The end of that mission is proving as hard as the TV station.

Probably the best shooter ever.
 

ConstipatedVigilante

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I got up to level 12 or 13 today - something around there. I love using the shotgun on urban maps - people just don't expect you to rush in with buckshot. I'm also a surgeon with the M203 - I can hit anyone as long as I can see them.
 

tvdang7

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DAMN this game has skyrocketed on xfire minutes played. its # 2 beating out cod2 and css if i rememeber correctly even both of them together. i dont even think unreal and crysis will do that.
 

Zumbador

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Originally posted by: sjetexas
are there any single player cheats codes for this game (PC)? Yes, I am lame.

After you finish the SP campaign, it unlocks cheats (at least that's what the dialog box said).

Also, the easy mode pretty much equates to cheating.
 

Zumbador

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So what rank is everyone at in MP?

I'm still a lower level sarge, but have found that an AK-47 with red dot, 3 stun grenades, deep penetration perk, and that other weapon damage perk are enough to make you pretty deadly. Enough to take the top spot from time to time in TDM.

I guess you have to play more before you get the good sniper rifles, but an hour of AK-47 will give you enough upgrades such that the other guys don't really have a clear advantage over you, which is a good thing.

The M16 with 3 shot burst sucks so bad.
 
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