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pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: DannyLove
can we get more MP reviews. I've been hearing a lot of scaring things about MP.

like what?

despite not being that great at it, i like it, and "i don't like anything".
 

themisfit610

Golden Member
Apr 16, 2006
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2
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SP is AMAZINGLY fun. I haven't been grabbed by a shooter in a very long time. the game is fast and fluid even on my (relatively) modest system at 1920x1200 with full details and some aniso (no AA). Some minor slowdown and some sound hiccuping when loading levels (vista x64 + audigy2 hating each other for sure), but for the most part LOVING it.

Nice graphics, great intense scripted action. Good fun arcade shooter that's easy to pick up and stuns with really great scripting and a great cinematic feel. Will be playing a lot tonight. I hear the SP is VERY short though

~MiSfit
 

Ctrackstar126

Senior member
Jul 14, 2005
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Originally posted by: DannyLove
can we get more MP reviews. I've been hearing a lot of scaring things about MP.

Theres nothing out of the ordinary about it. Though people who are good can rape a map. I was playing a deathmatch on the very small map. I got 2 airstrikes and a heli. The round was over in like 3-4 minutes. Some people with very good airstrikes and good helis can be god on a map if theres a lot of commotion and it can take away from the gameplay but it doesnt happen all the time and a quick remedy is to stick them with a knife.

Im level 38 so far and played TDM, HQ, and regular DM and they have all been fun. I have been getting back black textures that make it very hard for me to play on some maps which i suppose has been talked about but I havent found any solutions. a lot on my xfire is constantly playing it and I have like 300 people on there. They all love it but it could be because there hasnt been a good replacement for the games they have been playing. Not saying its the only game out there but some people simply love the modern warfare gimmick. I like playing TF2 and QW but I doubt I will be touching them for a while.

Ponti I think its funny you mention the silenced gun because thats what I use . I find the scope useless and Ive never been a fan of grenade launchers so its perfect. Im very very sneaky :evil:
 

DannyLove

Lifer
Oct 17, 2000
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most of my clans mate have gotten the game and simply dont like MP. Granted, we came from COD: UO, hated COD2, and loved BF2. (Still do), and never got 2142.

From what they've told me, too much commotion like someone said, and they said its like people running around killing like their chicken heads were cut off..

I'm slightly disappointed there are no vehicles at all in this game. =/

Sadly, I don't think I'll be getting this game. I'm sure its pretty with graphics, but i'm in it for the end game, shooting and killing gets old. Is there any strategy? Is it like COD2 where its just skillless again??????
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
43,806
46
91
Originally posted by: DannyLove
most of my clans mate have gotten the game and simply dont like MP. Granted, we came from COD: UO, hated COD2, and loved BF2. (Still do), and never got 2142.

From what they've told me, too much commotion like someone said, and they said its like people running around killing like their chicken heads were cut off..

I'm slightly disappointed there are no vehicles at all in this game. =/

Sadly, I don't think I'll be getting this game. I'm sure its pretty with graphics, but i'm in it for the end game, shooting and killing gets old. Is there any strategy? Is it like COD2 where its just skillless again??????

just gotta play on a smaller server. 16 is max. any more than that it is way too much going on and you die left and right. 12 seems about right
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
43,806
46
91
Originally posted by: Ctrackstar126

Ponti I think its funny you mention the silenced gun because thats what I use . I find the scope useless and Ive never been a fan of grenade launchers so its perfect. Im very very sneaky :evil:

oh man, i got the silenced mp5 and that was fun! paired it with the more damage perk and that was great! i was on a roof laying prone shooting guys and they had no idea!

starting to get more unlocks makes it a lot more fun, but I still hate having to unlock shit. just let me have access to everything and make it an even playing field. if you people want ranks, leave them in, but make it based on your skill or whatever. i don't care whether i'm first in the world or dead last.
 

Ctrackstar126

Senior member
Jul 14, 2005
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0
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Originally posted by: pontifex


oh man, i got the silenced mp5 and that was fun! paired it with the more damage perk and that was great! i was on a roof laying prone shooting guys and they had no idea!

starting to get more unlocks makes it a lot more fun, but I still hate having to unlock shit. just let me have access to everything and make it an even playing field. if you people want ranks, leave them in, but make it based on your skill or whatever. i don't care whether i'm first in the world or dead last.

Yea I had a guy i played with from another team talk crap to me early. Later in the day he comes into my server and I kept owning him and after I left he messages me on xfire and was like wtf is up with you and the silenced m4 lol. He also said something about camping but I told him I hardly stop for 2 seconds in the game. I move constantly Its just im so sneaky I pop out of nowhere. I have the extra damage perks to there great.

With that said the last stand perk is still the greatest. Sure most the time someone will just quickly finish u off but when someones unexpecting and just run over your body it makes for the best kills. Esp if they try to teabag you :evil:
 

Ctrackstar126

Senior member
Jul 14, 2005
988
0
76
Originally posted by: DannyLove
most of my clans mate have gotten the game and simply dont like MP. Granted, we came from COD: UO, hated COD2, and loved BF2. (Still do), and never got 2142.

From what they've told me, too much commotion like someone said, and they said its like people running around killing like their chicken heads were cut off..

I'm slightly disappointed there are no vehicles at all in this game. =/

Sadly, I don't think I'll be getting this game. I'm sure its pretty with graphics, but i'm in it for the end game, shooting and killing gets old. Is there any strategy? Is it like COD2 where its just skillless again??????

Actually I think there is more skill involved. You do get gayed every so often but most the time you will just simply get owned. You cant name a game where the stupid stuff doesnt happen. Its the nature of online gaming. If you go into a populated server then you will see a lot more of it.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
43,806
46
91
Originally posted by: Ctrackstar126
Originally posted by: pontifex


oh man, i got the silenced mp5 and that was fun! paired it with the more damage perk and that was great! i was on a roof laying prone shooting guys and they had no idea!

starting to get more unlocks makes it a lot more fun, but I still hate having to unlock shit. just let me have access to everything and make it an even playing field. if you people want ranks, leave them in, but make it based on your skill or whatever. i don't care whether i'm first in the world or dead last.

Yea I had a guy i played with from another team talk crap to me early. Later in the day he comes into my server and I kept owning him and after I left he messages me on xfire and was like wtf is up with you and the silenced m4 lol. He also said something about camping but I told him I hardly stop for 2 seconds in the game. I move constantly Its just im so sneaky I pop out of nowhere. I have the extra damage perks to there great.

With that said the last stand perk is still the greatest. Sure most the time someone will just quickly finish u off but when someones unexpecting and just run over your body it makes for the best kills. Esp if they try to teabag you :evil:

i kept getting owned by that one perk that drops a nade when you die...
i would always forget about.
 

BlueWeasel

Lifer
Jun 2, 2000
15,940
474
126
I decided to give the demo a try and I'm amazed how well it ran on my overclocked Opteron and x850xt. Granted, the resolution wasn't high and most details were medium, but the game looked great and played pretty good.

How does the performance of the retail game compare to the demo?
 

jonmcc33

Banned
Feb 24, 2002
1,504
0
0
Originally posted by: gizbug
This game looks like it will shine in Single Player. Multiplayer, doesn't seem to be much hype. UT3 might be a better multiplayer game, and keep this for single play, no?

LOL! Play the MP and you'll think quite otherwise.
 

flenn

Senior member
Oct 9, 1999
649
0
76
I bought this for mp but can't stop playing sp. I'll probably end up finishing it and I had no intentions other than to just go in and have a quick look.

BTW, this runs fine at 1280 with my lowly 7600gt.
 

marrr

Senior member
Jan 23, 2004
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I got a cod4 server yall can check it out if you want its running on dual AMD opteron 265's with 4 gigs of ram

64.34.186.177:28960

 

Markbnj

Elite Member <br>Moderator Emeritus
Moderator
Sep 16, 2005
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www.markbetz.net
Originally posted by: BD2003
Im finding the performance to be pretty pitiful on anything but a DX10 card w/ unified shaders. Even the 8600gts seems to be smoking my 7900GT in DX9 mode, and turning on shadows drops FPS really hard, but its either full shadows or all shadows.

The solution for those with the geforce 7 and below:

turn on the console
enter in RendererPreference 0 to change it to pixelshader 2.0 mode.
then enter in vid_restart

It looks nearly the same, lighting isnt as good, but still looks good - framerate is practically double. Why this isnt an option in the menus is absolutely beyond me.

If you really wanna enjoy this game at full settings at 1280x1024 or so, get no less than an 8800gts/gt.

Hey thanks, good tip. This made a big difference for me. It doesn't look as good, but still very pretty and the gameplay is much more fluid. Here's how to make it permanent and avoid the console.

c:\Program Files\Activision\Call of Duty 4 - Modern Warfare\players\profiles\[your name]

Find the file config.cfg and open it in a text editor. Near the bottom you'll see...

seta r_rendererPreference "Default"

Change this to...

seta r_rendererPreference "Shader model 2.0"

Save the file and start the game.
 

Ctrackstar126

Senior member
Jul 14, 2005
988
0
76
Originally posted by: pontifex


i kept getting owned by that one perk that drops a nade when you die...
i would always forget about.

Yea now that more people have it it was effecting me. Now I listen for the sound of a nade drop after i kill someone and ive done much better but they do still get me sometimes.
 

BD2003

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
16,815
1
76
Originally posted by: Markbnj
Originally posted by: BD2003
Im finding the performance to be pretty pitiful on anything but a DX10 card w/ unified shaders. Even the 8600gts seems to be smoking my 7900GT in DX9 mode, and turning on shadows drops FPS really hard, but its either full shadows or all shadows.

The solution for those with the geforce 7 and below:

turn on the console
enter in RendererPreference 0 to change it to pixelshader 2.0 mode.
then enter in vid_restart

It looks nearly the same, lighting isnt as good, but still looks good - framerate is practically double. Why this isnt an option in the menus is absolutely beyond me.

If you really wanna enjoy this game at full settings at 1280x1024 or so, get no less than an 8800gts/gt.

Hey thanks, good tip. This made a big difference for me. It doesn't look as good, but still very pretty and the gameplay is much more fluid. Here's how to make it permanent and avoid the console.

c:\Program Files\Activision\Call of Duty 4 - Modern Warfare\players\profiles\[your name]

Find the file config.cfg and open it in a text editor. Near the bottom you'll see...

seta r_rendererPreference "Default"

Change this to...

seta r_rendererPreference "Shader model 2.0"

Save the file and start the game.

Good stuff. I'm still truly dumbfounded as to why this isnt in the menu. Considering the boost in framerate (seriously, about double) vs. the image quality loss (not too huge, less than most menu options) it doesnt make any sense to keep this hidden. I had to take screenshots to really notice the difference...its primarily some sort of lighting. But even in PS 2.0, shadows, dynamic lights, glow etc - everything is still functioning.

The game is so shader heavy, and you dont have any options to turn things down...just to turn things off. Its either full fps raping shadows, or no shadows at all. But PS 2.0 + Shadows is WAAAY faster than default PS 3.0 w/o shadows, not to mention looks MUCH better...so...wtf?

It really needs a card with unified shaders in order to work well in PS 3.0 mode, and that pretty much leaves everyone without a Geforce 8 and Radeon 2600+ with a really sh*t framerate.

I had to take screenshots to notice the difference between the two modes. Seriously, if you have anything less than a GF8, try this tweak.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
43,806
46
91
Does the UAV Jammer perk just hide you from a UAV scan or does it hide you from the radar all the time, like if you shoot a gun without a silencer?
 

Jeeebus

Diamond Member
Aug 29, 2006
9,180
897
126
ok so I just finished the nuke mission... OMFG was that intense. If I didn't have to work today, I'd probably just fly around in a ac-130 all day and blow guys up. Haven't bothered with MP yet, the SP campaign is actually keeping my 100% full interest, which no game has done in years.
 

Regs

Lifer
Aug 9, 2002
16,665
21
81
Originally posted by: pontifex
man, i hope there isn't something wrong with my system. hellgate took over an hour and 15 minutes to install and CoD4 is taking over 20 minutes.

Sounds like your cd-rom. Could also be from all those anti-pirate programs installed from previous games and what not.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
43,806
46
91
Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: pontifex
man, i hope there isn't something wrong with my system. hellgate took over an hour and 15 minutes to install and CoD4 is taking over 20 minutes.

Sounds like your cd-rom. Could also be from all those anti-pirate programs installed from previous games and what not.

I have 2 dvd-rw drives in my pc. i installed HGL off the first one and CoD4 off the 2nd one.

This just started recently with these 2 games. I installed NFS: Carbon abotu 3 weeks ago and it installed fine.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
43,806
46
91
anyone know of any good CoD4 specific forums?

I've been going to charlieoscardelta.com but the site is so damn slow.
 

Markbnj

Elite Member <br>Moderator Emeritus
Moderator
Sep 16, 2005
15,682
13
81
www.markbetz.net
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: Markbnj
Originally posted by: BD2003
Im finding the performance to be pretty pitiful on anything but a DX10 card w/ unified shaders. Even the 8600gts seems to be smoking my 7900GT in DX9 mode, and turning on shadows drops FPS really hard, but its either full shadows or all shadows.

The solution for those with the geforce 7 and below:

turn on the console
enter in RendererPreference 0 to change it to pixelshader 2.0 mode.
then enter in vid_restart

It looks nearly the same, lighting isnt as good, but still looks good - framerate is practically double. Why this isnt an option in the menus is absolutely beyond me.

If you really wanna enjoy this game at full settings at 1280x1024 or so, get no less than an 8800gts/gt.

Hey thanks, good tip. This made a big difference for me. It doesn't look as good, but still very pretty and the gameplay is much more fluid. Here's how to make it permanent and avoid the console.

c:\Program Files\Activision\Call of Duty 4 - Modern Warfare\players\profiles\[your name]

Find the file config.cfg and open it in a text editor. Near the bottom you'll see...

seta r_rendererPreference "Default"

Change this to...

seta r_rendererPreference "Shader model 2.0"

Save the file and start the game.

Good stuff. I'm still truly dumbfounded as to why this isnt in the menu. Considering the boost in framerate (seriously, about double) vs. the image quality loss (not too huge, less than most menu options) it doesnt make any sense to keep this hidden. I had to take screenshots to really notice the difference...its primarily some sort of lighting. But even in PS 2.0, shadows, dynamic lights, glow etc - everything is still functioning.

The game is so shader heavy, and you dont have any options to turn things down...just to turn things off. Its either full fps raping shadows, or no shadows at all. But PS 2.0 + Shadows is WAAAY faster than default PS 3.0 w/o shadows, not to mention looks MUCH better...so...wtf?

It really needs a card with unified shaders in order to work well in PS 3.0 mode, and that pretty much leaves everyone without a Geforce 8 and Radeon 2600+ with a really sh*t framerate.

I had to take screenshots to notice the difference between the two modes. Seriously, if you have anything less than a GF8, try this tweak.

It's waaay faster on my 7600GT, which is probably the low end for what you can reasonably run this game on. Appearance-wise... shadows are much blockier, lighting is less dramatic (I think the tweak disables HDR or bloom or whatever they are using for contrast enhancement). I still haven't quite figured out which eye candy options have an effect using the 2.0 shaders, but enabling them all did drop the framerate, so they are doing something. I think that "Depth of field" is supposed to blur things in the background, but I didn't really notice much difference. "Specular map" and "Glow" I understand, but again enabling them in 2.0 mode seemed to drop the framerate without having a huge impact on the visuals. I'm going to look at it again tonight.

Has anyone found options in the game for tweaking the mouse? I didn't see any control options at all. Might have missed them. I play on a widescreen Dell and I need to tweak the mouse response a little. That, or I suck.
 

AMDZen

Lifer
Apr 15, 2004
12,639
0
76
I personally think CoD3 was the worst of all of them, but thats because it was on consoles.

Keyboard and Mouse forever
 

swtethan

Diamond Member
Aug 5, 2005
9,083
0
0
Originally posted by: trevor0323
Where can you get this game for cheap. I dont wanna pay $50 at best buy, anyone have it on sale? What is that site that lists the video games that are on sale?

at walmart its $49.99 you save a penny!
 
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