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Regs

Lifer
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Terrific. Punkbuster update needed and the pb servers are crashing. So much for COD4 today.

Hmm foot ball.
 

imported_BadKarma

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Originally posted by: Regs
Anybody else get servere lag with air strikes? I'm trying to figure out which setting i have to tweak to get the PC from dragging. It might even be the sound..I dunno.

I don't have this problem but I read that turning off your antivirus may help.

Text from IW forum FAQ.
I get really bad lag when airstrikes happen. I cant move
Make sure your antivirus is not running while you are playing. This can cause lag with airstrikes because you get sent a lot of data to tell your client where the bombs are dropping, where the planes fly to / from and all the other stuff that your client is usually getting sent too.

Hope that helps.
 

jonmcc33

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Originally posted by: BadKarma
I don't have this problem but I read that turning off your antivirus may help.

Text from IW forum FAQ.
I get really bad lag when airstrikes happen. I cant move
Make sure your antivirus is not running while you are playing. This can cause lag with airstrikes because you get sent a lot of data to tell your client where the bombs are dropping, where the planes fly to / from and all the other stuff that your client is usually getting sent too.

Hope that helps.

What if you aren't running antivirus? :thumbsdown:

I swear, software developers make up with worst BS when it comes to reasons why their games have issues.
 

Regs

Lifer
Aug 9, 2002
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Originally posted by: BadKarma
Originally posted by: Regs
Anybody else get servere lag with air strikes? I'm trying to figure out which setting i have to tweak to get the PC from dragging. It might even be the sound..I dunno.

I don't have this problem but I read that turning off your antivirus may help.

Text from IW forum FAQ.
I get really bad lag when airstrikes happen. I cant move
Make sure your antivirus is not running while you are playing. This can cause lag with airstrikes because you get sent a lot of data to tell your client where the bombs are dropping, where the planes fly to / from and all the other stuff that your client is usually getting sent too.

Hope that helps.

Thanks ill try that out
 

TallBill

Lifer
Apr 29, 2001
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Sweet ass game, and I play online quite a bit. My xfire is Tallbill if anyone wants to get spanked.
 

Regs

Lifer
Aug 9, 2002
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Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: BadKarma
Originally posted by: Regs
Anybody else get servere lag with air strikes? I'm trying to figure out which setting i have to tweak to get the PC from dragging. It might even be the sound..I dunno.

I don't have this problem but I read that turning off your antivirus may help.

Text from IW forum FAQ.
I get really bad lag when airstrikes happen. I cant move
Make sure your antivirus is not running while you are playing. This can cause lag with airstrikes because you get sent a lot of data to tell your client where the bombs are dropping, where the planes fly to / from and all the other stuff that your client is usually getting sent too.

Hope that helps.

Thanks ill try that out


Damn it worked. Hah. Wish someone told me earlier!!
 

martensite

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Aug 8, 2001
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Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: lupi
Just started using the G3. Oh how does that suck. Who the hell uses a pure semi automatic weapon as a frontline combat weapon. Feel like the damn germans going against garands and bars with the freaking k98.

The g3 does more damage though and is more accurate with one shot.

G3 in hardcore is really good, especially for the larger maps because the recoil is low and it's very accurate.

These days, I am trying out the AK + red-dot + bandolier + doubletap + deep impact. It's a deadly combo for close-medium range combat.

 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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I love Dead Silence. Probably the best damn perk in the game!

you can run around and not have to worry about making noise.
i've been playing mostly with bandolier, overkill, and dead silence.
 

Regs

Lifer
Aug 9, 2002
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Originally posted by: pontifex
I love Dead Silence. Probably the best damn perk in the game!

you can run around and not have to worry about making noise.
i've been playing mostly with bandolier, overkill, and dead silence.

How do you get the dead silence? I notice a lot of players on the OfFor side using the sneak knife attack.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: pontifex
I love Dead Silence. Probably the best damn perk in the game!

you can run around and not have to worry about making noise.
i've been playing mostly with bandolier, overkill, and dead silence.

How do you get the dead silence? I notice a lot of players on the OfFor side using the sneak knife attack.

level up. i think you get it at lvl 44.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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I play mostly on servers with a 24 man limit. Except for the container map, I don't feel any of them are too small. It would be nice for a few more larger maps but my main complaint about map design is something that I also hate in the BF series: the presence of so many buildings that you don't have access too. I would also like to see a couple more weapon hardpoints in the maps, but that is a bit of a personal preference.
 
As for the martyrdom moaning, if this is really problem for you then I can safely say you're just an idiot. First there is this big *#& grenade indicator that comes up along with the ding song of the grenade being dropped. Holding down shift and moving momentarily in any direction other than towards the body will keep you safe. The only time I see people die to it are when a large group is swarming someone and the last couple guys in the group don't see the grenade until just as its going off or when someone is trying to rush a defensive position and make it to the defenders before they are killed and other attackers are preventing them from easily moving out.
 
Same goes with the hand grenades or the launcher. Given the few number anyone single person carries of those, if they are affecting you that much perhaps it's time to evaluate your skill level. Maybe a little more time playing as an observer could help you out. If they included a grenade launcher as a primary weapon, even something as old fashioned as the breach loader from BFV, I'd probably lug that around mostly as I love the skill it takes to successfully use it and the results of well placed indirect damage.
 
For map types I do mostly TDM and Domination. I dislike HQ as that doesn't seem to be much more than a jumbled mess and there isn't any position delineation. The bomb maps aren't bad, but are better with a lower number of players as otherwise they mainly turn into a variation of last man standing.
 
Oh, and the P-90. If it was that great I guess everyone would use it. It must be odd then that I see so few P-90 kill indicators on the status dialogue. Hell I'd complain more about something like me going around with a scorpion and double tap. It's like using a minigun with a point blank range limit. Goes through ammo so fast I can only get a handful of kills before picking up another weapon, but until then it's extremely difficult to deal with in a CQB setting. Before limiting current weapons, I'd prefer to see adjustments to those weapons that are lacking (primarily the sniper category).
 
Then you have Last Stand which no one seems to complain about except some talking about how hard it is to get kills with when I routinely get half a dozen + kills with it per game.
 

ayabe

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Aug 10, 2005
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Originally posted by: lupi
Same goes with the hand grenades or the launcher. Given the few number anyone single person carries of those, if they are affecting you that much perhaps it's time to evaluate your skill level. Maybe a little more time playing as an observer could help you out. If they included a grenade launcher as a primary weapon, even something as old fashioned as the breach loader from BFV, I'd probably lug that around mostly as I love the skill it takes to successfully use it and the results of well placed indirect damage.

There is no skill involved with using the noob tube and the splash damage is too high.

I know you fashion yourself a badass, but seriously, that weapon is a joke.
 

chizow

Diamond Member
Jun 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: lupi
Same goes with the hand grenades or the launcher. Given the few number anyone single person carries of those, if they are affecting you that much perhaps it's time to evaluate your skill level. Maybe a little more time playing as an observer could help you out. If they included a grenade launcher as a primary weapon, even something as old fashioned as the breach loader from BFV, I'd probably lug that around mostly as I love the skill it takes to successfully use it and the results of well placed indirect damage.

There is no skill involved with using the noob tube and the splash damage is too high.

I know you fashion yourself a badass, but seriously, that weapon is a joke.

Haha ya. There's a lot of problems with COD4's noob tube, mainly that its far too accurate with a very flat trajectory. The splash damage I can live with. Honestly it takes very little skill, its like sniper rifle accuracy/range with a shotgun's coverage. Saddest part about noob-tubers is that they'll always burn their tubes first and foremost. Honestly I can't count the times I've picked up an M4 or G36C as a 2nd primary to find a full clip sans 2xM203 rounds lololol. I'd have a lot less problems with M203 if it always replaced Perk 1, but it doesn't for a lot of weapons.

Grenades on the other hand do take skill imo. Its more an art than anything between cooking them and calculating the trajectory needed to toss them where you want them. And that's before you get into more difficult techniques like bouncing them off of walls/geometry to place them exactly where you think the bad guys are. You're also very vulnerable while you have a grenade in-hand, which isn't the case with the noob tube.
 
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Agreed. Nade launcher is the number one noob weapon on the planet. It's basically CoD2's shotgun reborn. I can't figure out if I hate this worse or martyrdom. I particularly love that some noob tubers seem to think they're using a real pro weapon.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: chizow
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: lupi
Same goes with the hand grenades or the launcher. Given the few number anyone single person carries of those, if they are affecting you that much perhaps it's time to evaluate your skill level. Maybe a little more time playing as an observer could help you out. If they included a grenade launcher as a primary weapon, even something as old fashioned as the breach loader from BFV, I'd probably lug that around mostly as I love the skill it takes to successfully use it and the results of well placed indirect damage.

There is no skill involved with using the noob tube and the splash damage is too high.

I know you fashion yourself a badass, but seriously, that weapon is a joke.

Haha ya. There's a lot of problems with COD4's noob tube, mainly that its far too accurate with a very flat trajectory. The splash damage I can live with. Honestly it takes very little skill, its like sniper rifle accuracy/range with a shotgun's coverage. Saddest part about noob-tubers is that they'll always burn their tubes first and foremost. Honestly I can't count the times I've picked up an M4 or G36C as a 2nd primary to find a full clip sans 2xM203 rounds lololol. I'd have a lot less problems with M203 if it always replaced Perk 1, but it doesn't for a lot of weapons.

Grenades on the other hand do take skill imo. Its more an art than anything between cooking them and calculating the trajectory needed to toss them where you want them. And that's before you get into more difficult techniques like bouncing them off of walls/geometry to place them exactly where you think the bad guys are. You're also very vulnerable while you have a grenade in-hand, which isn't the case with the noob tube.

you'll never find a dropped gun equipped with an m203 that has nades left in it except unless maybe you have one yourself (haven't tried to pick up a nade launcher while I had one myself yet). it has something to do with the perks and how the nade launcher takes up
slot 1. it's unlrealistic but I guess it has to do with balance. the grenade launcher always replaces perk 1, no matter what weapon you use.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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Originally posted by: Energizer Bunny
Agreed. Nade launcher is the number one noob weapon on the planet. It's basically CoD2's shotgun reborn. I can't figure out if I hate this worse or martyrdom. I particularly love that some noob tubers seem to think they're using a real pro weapon.

Those guys with strong nade launchers are giving up 2 perks for it. Either complain about the perk system, or perhaps it's time for a new game; perhaps something made by Popcap for you.
 
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Thanks, but I think I'd rather see the nade launcher fixed and get to enjoy an excellent game than ditch the game for the sake of a few badly balanced weapons. I don't care about how many perks it takes up, the net effect is that its broken. Whether its the weapon itself, or the perks, or both, or whatever, I don't care - the gun is broken and needs fixing. I can't link to anything by way of proof but I get the strong impression that the overwhelming majority of the online community would concur. There is only martyrdom I see attract more ire.

I don't get the popcap thing... you might have to explain that one to me.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: Energizer Bunny
Thanks, but I think I'd rather see the nade launcher fixed and get to enjoy an excellent game than ditch the game for the sake of a few badly balanced weapons. I don't care about how many perks it takes up, the net effect is that its broken. Whether its the weapon itself, or the perks, or both, or whatever, I don't care - the gun is broken and needs fixing. I can't link to anything by way of proof but I get the strong impression that the overwhelming majority of the online community would concur. There is only martyrdom I see attract more ire.

I don't get the popcap thing... you might have to explain that one to me.

he's insulting you by saying your too stupid or not skilled enough to play CoD4 and you should play a simple game, like bejeweled, which is made by PopCap.
 

lupi

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I give little credence to those that complain so much about grenades or the launcher, particularly those dimwitted enough to add martyrdom to the mix. It's an ability that in effect plants a sign which says come stand by me and in 5 seconds you will be dead. Except for the few examples I discussed before, you have to be a crappy player that you get killed by standing next to the spot marked stand here so you can be killed.
 
And for other weapons being unbalanced/overpowered. If weapons existed as such, why wouldn't every player in a match be using them. 
 

ayabe

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Aug 10, 2005
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Originally posted by: lupi
I give little credence to those that complain so much about grenades or the launcher, particularly those dimwitted enough to add martyrdom to the mix. It's an ability that in effect plants a sign which says come stand by me and in 5 seconds you will be dead. Except for the few examples I discussed before, you have to be a crappy player that you get killed by standing next to the spot marked stand here so you can be killed.

And for other weapons being unbalanced/overpowered. If weapons existed as such, why wouldn't every player in a match be using them.

There is no other weapon/perk combo that pretty much guarantees at least two kills per round. You can go round and round and demean other players who criticize your favorite weapon but our opinion is not the minority.

 

lupi

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You see, that's the funny thing. I haven't used the launcher since I picked up mt first red dot site because of the limitations of it.

 

chizow

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Originally posted by: lupi
You see, that's the funny thing. I haven't used the launcher since I picked up mt first red dot site because of the limitations of it.
I don't think people have as much problem with the Grenade Launcher as you making it sound as if it takes some amazing degree of skill to use one.....

Honestly, you might as well say it takes amazing skill to rack up kills in Q3 with a Rocket Launcher....

There's no straight grenade launcher probably because it was overpowered in pretty much any game that had them just to be disabled by server admins. SoF2 and even GoldenEye had them, they were bad but they were still harder to use than the M203 in COD4 (due to an actual flight arc, projectile speed and lower splash damage).
 

ConstipatedVigilante

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Originally posted by: chizow
Originally posted by: lupi
You see, that's the funny thing. I haven't used the launcher since I picked up mt first red dot site because of the limitations of it.
I don't think people have as much problem with the Grenade Launcher as you making it sound as if it takes some amazing degree of skill to use one.....

Honestly, you might as well say it takes amazing skill to rack up kills in Q3 with a Rocket Launcher....

There's no straight grenade launcher probably because it was overpowered in pretty much any game that had them just to be disabled by server admins. SoF2 and even GoldenEye had them, they were bad but they were still harder to use than the M203 in COD4 (due to an actual flight arc, projectile speed and lower splash damage).

You're saying the AIMS-20 launcher and MGL are harder to use than the M203? They're like explosive bullets! It doesn't take much skill to fire an M203 into a crowd down the street, but it does to fire it into a window 200 feet away.
 
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