So do the Detroit piston`s dump their coach?

[JEDIYoda]

I say the present coach is history--just my opinion!

 

[Squisher]

I don't see how they can blame Flip for the players forgetting how to shoot.

I don't remember at any time in the last 3 seasons where so many of the starting five collectively threw up so many bricks.

 

[isekii]

I dont see how they can blame the coach.
They had a awesome season.

The players didn't show up for the playoffs.
Their fans were saying how the Pistons were an automatic lock for the finals.

Enjoy fishing

 

[Azndude2190]

I think too much confidence really killed them. We all know that guys like Rip,Billups,Prince,Sheed can shoot/score they just took the Heat to lightly and end up digging a huge whole starting in game 1 when they held the homecourt advantage.

As to your question...No...they just need to regroup maybe add a offensive spark of the bench but there pretty much set for another run next year.

 

[Reel]

They got to the Eastern Conference Finals. Had they won the series instead of lost it, they would be in the Championship game. Isn't that where they were last year? They just lost to a better team.

When they won it all, they played hard defense. This year it is lots of offense that is winning it. It is like the struggle in baseball between pitchers and hitters. They need to step up their offense and they are a championship team again.

Go Heat.

 

[NGC_604]

No get rid of their lazy gangsta thug players. Billups and Wallace were absolutely useless. Prince seemed the be the only player worth a sh!t most of the series, but even he failed to do anything the last game.

 

[ballmode]

I sense the team getting broken up, they need a better PG

 

[CTrain]

People that do not follow NBA should not put up idiotic comments.

"they need a better PG"
Chauncey Billups finished 5th in the MVP voting.
Ahead of Dwyane Wade, Elton Brand, Tim Duncan, etc..
Nuff' said.

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: CTrain
People that do not follow NBA should not put up idiotic comments.

very true

 

[Sqube]

Fire the coach after one season? It's not his fault that they forgot defensive intensity is what got them where they are in the first place.

All he did was teach them some offense. How was he supposed to know that they would take what little they knew and assume that they didn't have to play defense anymore? They got cocky, and they paid for it in 6.

Next year, maybe they'll remember what got them to where they were and really get down like they should.

ballmode: Chauncey Billups is obviously overrated... IN BIZARRO WORLD!

 

[Furyline]

I don't think Flip was the one shooting 33% in game 6

I don't know if they should break up a team that had the best record in franchise history. The starting 5 is still very good, they just didn't play well in the playoffs as a team.

 

[Ackmed]

The coach didnt make them miss their shots. The Pistons missed a LOT of very open, and easy shots. That had nothing to do with the coach.

Everyone wants to point out that they Pistons beat the Heat last year. Yet most forget that Shaq was injured (deep thigh bruise) and Wade was too. Wade didnt even play the 6th game, and you could tell his cracked rib was still very painful in game 7. The Pistons wouldnt have even won if Wade wasnt badly hurt last year.

In closing, the players lost the game, not the coach.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

There is absolutely no way you can blame their loss on Flip. They simply did not show up to play. They shot abysmally and that is what cost them. I blame the players, not the coach.

 

[Amplifier]

Keeping Prince instead of drafting Carmelo, that's making a whole lot of sense right now isn't it.

 

[NGC_604]

Originally posted by: CTrain
People that do not follow NBA should not put up idiotic comments.

"they need a better PG"
Chauncey Billups finished 5th in the MVP voting.
Ahead of Dwyane Wade, Elton Brand, Tim Duncan, etc..
Nuff' said.

And just like A-rod he was no where to be found when they needed him the most. He was useless for most of the series. Some MVP.

 

[Syringer]

Flip Saunders definitely had a major role in the Pistons' downfall. His players didn't respect him, and he had no control over the team. Remember the instances where Ben Wallace refused to go into a game? Or when Sheed wouldn't join them in the time-out? A good, well respected coach would not allow that to happen.

All Flip did was ride the momentum from the past two years to bring them to where they are now, but when it came to matter most he couldn't bring them together. If one player has a bad game you can attribute it to him having a bad game or being off..but when every single player on your team is having a lackluster playoff run, there's clearly more to it than just the players. ESPECIALLY when you have a team that's made it to the Finals two years in a row and winning one of them. They are obviously capable of winning in crunch time, and have proven to be able to do so..but without the proper leadership they were not able to pull it off this year.

 

[Amplifier]

Oh by the way, would Ben Wallace kindly return his DPOY award.

 

[Accipiter22]

Originally posted by: Syringer
Flip Saunders definitely had a major role in the Pistons' downfall. His players didn't respect him, and he had no control over the team. Remember the instances where Ben Wallace refused to go into a game? Or when Sheed wouldn't join them in the time-out? A good, well respected coach would not allow that to happen.

All Flip did was ride the momentum from the past two years to bring them to where they are now, but when it came to matter most he couldn't bring them together. If one player has a bad game you can attribute it to him having a bad game or being off..but when every single player on your team is having a lackluster playoff run, there's clearly more to it than just the players. ESPECIALLY when you have a team that's made it to the Finals two years in a row and winning one of them. They are obviously capable of winning in crunch time, and have proven to be able to do so..but without the proper leadership they were not able to pull it off this year.

I agree about flip not having control over the game...

I disagree with the momentum portion....remember, the Heat came one dwayne wade injury away from creaming the pistons last year...they should've never made the finals last year....just like they shouldn't have this year....The Cavs were one non-lebron above-average player away from waxing them this year....

 

[Syringer]

Originally posted by: Squisher
I don't see how they can blame Flip for the players forgetting how to shoot.

I don't remember at any time in the last 3 seasons where so many of the starting five collectively threw up so many bricks.

What do you even think the role of a coach is? It is to lead his players and bring out the most of them. When a team collectively sucks as a whole as the Pistons did, you have to look above them toward the leader..

 

[CrazyDe1]

The Piston's problems this offseason can be attributed to 3 factors:

1. Lack of viable bench. When you're playing 6 or 7 players consistently your starters are going to get tired. This is evidenced by the lack of defensive effor and also the poor shooting percentage.

2. Lack of hunger. They've always had something to prove. They didn't have the us against the world attitude this year.

3. Lack of defensive intensity. They were clearly not playing the defense they've been known for playing. Part of this is the new rules and part of this is lack of effort which can be blamed on the coach.

Yeah, you can blame the coach all you want but there are only a few outstanding coaches in the NBA and the rest are average to above average. Firing the coach won't remedy this team's problems.

 

[CTrain]

Originally posted by: energydan

Originally posted by: CTrain
People that do not follow NBA should not put up idiotic comments.

"they need a better PG"
Chauncey Billups finished 5th in the MVP voting.
Ahead of Dwyane Wade, Elton Brand, Tim Duncan, etc..
Nuff' said.

And just like A-rod he was no where to be found when they needed him the most. He was useless for most of the series. Some MVP.

Yeah, the Psitons only made the Eastern Conf championship 4 yrs in a row.
2 NBA finals and he won 2004 NBA finals MVP when Detroit did win a NBA title.
Yeah, hes no good....Detroit do need a better PG.
Make sense to me.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: CrazyDe1
The Piston's problems this offseason can be attributed to 3 factors:

1. Lack of viable bench. When you're playing 6 or 7 players consistently your starters are going to get tired. This is evidenced by the lack of defensive effor and also the poor shooting percentage.

2. Lack of hunger. They've always had something to prove. They didn't have the us against the world attitude this year.

3. Lack of defensive intensity. They were clearly not playing the defense they've been known for playing. Part of this is the new rules and part of this is lack of effort which can be blamed on the coach.

Yeah, you can blame the coach all you want but there are only a few outstanding coaches in the NBA and the rest are average to above average. Firing the coach won't remedy this team's problems.

4. lack of a well respected coach by the players!

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: Syringer
Flip Saunders definitely had a major role in the Pistons' downfall. His players didn't respect him, and he had no control over the team. Remember the instances where Ben Wallace refused to go into a game? Or when Sheed wouldn't join them in the time-out? A good, well respected coach would not allow that to happen.

All Flip did was ride the momentum from the past two years to bring them to where they are now, but when it came to matter most he couldn't bring them together. If one player has a bad game you can attribute it to him having a bad game or being off..but when every single player on your team is having a lackluster playoff run, there's clearly more to it than just the players. ESPECIALLY when you have a team that's made it to the Finals two years in a row and winning one of them. They are obviously capable of winning in crunch time, and have proven to be able to do so..but without the proper leadership they were not able to pull it off this year.

You really need to get your facts straight. He does that every time. Its not like he just did it that one time.

Once again, people want to point out that the Pistons went to the Finals the past two years. They wouldnt have beat the Heat last year either, if not for key injuries to the Heat. Obviously they didnt close well enough last year, they lost game 7.

 

[kb315]

Yes Flip needs to go.

He's not a championship coach. I mean he couldn't even get KG out of the first round multiple times.

I don't think you'd notice, but the pistons had a pretty decent bench, but they never got any playing time. Even during the regular season.
They never had anytime form any type of chemistry, he relied on the starters too much during the season. Also, I think he didn't understand that basketball should be played 5-5 on offense, not 5-4. He refused to run any plays for Ben. Larry Brown knew he had to run plays for ben because it would keep him happy, and a happy player will def play better on the ohter end. Also, it would force the opposition to guard him.

Most of all, I don't think he ever had control in the lockerroom.

 

[Ackmed]

The Pistons didnt use anything but the starting five the previous two years either. There goes that argument of yours. The others are purely opinion, that really do not add up.