So do the Detroit piston`s dump their coach?

[CrazyDe1]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
The Pistons didnt use anything but the starting five the previous two years either. There goes that argument of yours. The others are purely opinion, that really do not add up.

That's fine for 1 year. I would argue consistently going deep into the postseason without having the summer for rest and playing huge minutes makes your team tired.

 

[spikespiegal]

I've watched the Pistons since Isiah Thomas first set foot on the court. The reasons for their 'meltdown' were obvious, and I predicted it.

Main problem is lack of an inside offensive game, thanks to a lazy, 6-11' point guard named Rasheed Wallace.

Next, we can blame an defensive player of the year who also has the worst offense in the NBA - Ben Wallace.

Next, an over-rated guard name Chauncey Billups, who can do nothing but run college screens, and pass to better offensive players; Hamilton and Prince.

Last, an NBA marquee player mentality when the big stars only play hard during the playoffs. The Piston's played like they have all season, It's the other teams (Cleveland and Miami) that turned it on.

I honestly can't see Miami beating Dallas.

 

[herkulease]

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: Squisher
I don't see how they can blame Flip for the players forgetting how to shoot.

I don't remember at any time in the last 3 seasons where so many of the starting five collectively threw up so many bricks.

What do you even think the role of a coach is? It is to lead his players and bring out the most of them. When a team collectively sucks as a whole as the Pistons did, you have to look above them toward the leader..

Agreed but once they are on the court its out of his hands. Several times Flip drew the play they ran it perfectly, got wide open and clanked them. There is nothing any coach can do when players don't make wide open shots.

Personally i felt it just wasn't the Pistons day. Layups will spin out, balls went half way down only to bounce right on out.

 

[Turkey22]

Originally posted by: spikespiegal
I've watched the Pistons since Isiah Thomas first set foot on the court. The reasons for their 'meltdown' were obvious, and I predicted it.

Main problem is lack of an inside offensive game, thanks to a lazy, 6-11' point guard named Rasheed Wallace.

Next, we can blame an defensive player of the year who also has the worst offense in the NBA - Ben Wallace.

Next, an over-rated guard name Chauncey Billups, who can do nothing but run college screens, and pass to better offensive players; Hamilton and Prince.

Last, an NBA marquee player mentality when the big stars only play hard during the playoffs. The Piston's played like they have all season, It's the other teams (Cleveland and Miami) that turned it on.

I honestly can't see Miami beating Dallas.

Agree with everything except Chauncey. There is a reason he was finals mvp 2 years ago and 5th in mvp voting this year. He was just scared of Shaq during game 6 which was just pissin me off. He had a bad series with a few bright spots. The rest of the team was pretty much the same. Lack of an integrated bench killed them since they were so tired from the Cleveland series. Lindsey looked fine and provided some good minutes (some bad ones too). Delk hasn't played with them enough, he's so much like Hunter as a player, so similar, but a better shooter. Sheed stank it up big time, all series just pitiful.
He's the one piece (other than the bench) that I could see changing for next year. The coaching against Shaq was pitiful. Hack-a-shaq works, yet wasn't used at all. He was 9-11 at half time of hame 6. Dale davis has 6 fouls use them. Then again I still feel game 4 was stolen by the refs anyways, awful homer refs in Miami (they were still homer refs in Detroit, but not as bad).

 

[NGC_604]

Originally posted by: CTrain

Originally posted by: energydan

Originally posted by: CTrain
People that do not follow NBA should not put up idiotic comments.

"they need a better PG"
Chauncey Billups finished 5th in the MVP voting.
Ahead of Dwyane Wade, Elton Brand, Tim Duncan, etc..
Nuff' said.

And just like A-rod he was no where to be found when they needed him the most. He was useless for most of the series. Some MVP.

Yeah, the Psitons only made the Eastern Conf championship 4 yrs in a row.
2 NBA finals and he won 2004 NBA finals MVP when Detroit did win a NBA title.
Yeah, hes no good....Detroit do need a better PG.
Make sense to me.

So then you were satisfied with his performance this year? They won ONE year and he gets a pass to dissapear when he wants. Who cares what he did in years past. He was useless this year and now they can watch from home. If he was a true MVP he would have shown up when he team needed him the most. You can keep defending him though, because he scored 50 points in November to really help his team out.

I never said he needed to be replaced, but he sure as hell needs to improve. There isn't a single player on that team that doesn't need to. They all played like garbage. And Billups is gonna be demanding a big pay raise this year. He sure earned it by contributing 8 points a game.

 

[Patt]

I'm not a fan of Chauncy Billups, but he played extremely well throughout the season, but he is a terrible defender IMO. Rasheed seemed disinterested, and even Ben Wallace seemed the same. I don't see Ben Wallace sticking around if he can capitalize on free agency when his contract is up, as the Pistons won't pony up the cash. No offense == no resigning.

Edit: on topic of thread ... Flip will stay, but without some changes, the Pistons won't win 64 games again.

 

[NGC_604]

That's why I compared Billups to A-rod. Yeah he's a geat player that anyone would want, but were the hell is he when you need him most. If he had bothered to show up to some of them games they would be in the finals again. Same goes for Rasheed. They played lazy and weren't hungry, as someone pointed out. I'm not sure why though. They only won one championship, they sure as hell weren't a dynasty.

 

[kb315]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
The Pistons didnt use anything but the starting five the previous two years either. There goes that argument of yours. The others are purely opinion, that really do not add up.

Um, not exactly, the year we won we had a pretty dependable bench. We had the bulldogs of mike james and linsey hunter and they provided defensive pressure. Eldon cambell played a pretty good series against the lakers. Memo Okur was pretty decent earlier in that run. Most of all Corliss Williamson was a solid threat down low. The next year, our bench was pretty much gone and we almost didn't make it to the finals.