So Far, what looks better? HL2 or Doom III? Poll inside.

[Pentium]

But the poll is Which one "Looks" better

 

[jim1976]

Ahhh yes, it seems the crack rock is abundant these days. "From what I've seen, Half-Life 2 will look better"? Get off the narcotics, man - are these peeps blind? Compare screens for heaven's sake!

It's something called opinion and I don't have to justify myself to a child like you.
Learn to read more carefully.

 

[skace]

Wow didn't expect HL2 to be leading. I think people are taking more into account than looks. Considering, straight looks it is obvious that Doom3 will win. It doesn't have to compete as much with the outside environments.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Edge3D

Originally posted by: reever

BTW Doom 3 for those who didnt know.. is confirmed by id to be released this summer for sure.

I love people when they quote Doom3 release dates, then make fun of HL2 release dates in the same post. Doom3 was also said to be confirmed by id to be "coming in summer 2003", and they missed it by an entire year

No. It was NEVER confirmed by id EVER.

Are you 100% positive on this? I believe I saw a link to a pic from E3 2003 with a huge display for Doom3 stating "coming Summer 2003" or something like that posted somewhere in this forum.

Either way, even if they did state that at least they didn't deny a delay up until a week before release and package coupons for the game to sell video cards knowing it wouldn't ship anytime soon. Yay Valve... :disgust:

 

[Enoch2001]

Originally posted by: jim1976

It's something called opinion and I don't have to justify myself to a child like you.
Learn to read more carefully.

Learn to look more carefully. How could you possibly be of the opinion that HL2 *looks better* after seeing screens of both? It just blows my mind; the details, the lighting, the character models...I just don't understand..? A side-by-side comparison of both proves that, man.

As for the crack-head references, it's all a joke - no offense meant. Sure you don't have to justify yourself to me, but I also don't have to justify to you what most people can see with their own eyes. Children and adults alike, yung'un. ;-)

 

[Enoch2001]

Originally posted by: skace
Wow didn't expect HL2 to be leading. I think people are taking more into account than looks. Considering, straight looks it is obvious that Doom3 will win. It doesn't have to compete as much with the outside environments.

Exactly. The title of this thread is "So Far, what looks better? HL2 or Doom III?" Taken that straight into account, most can see that Doom 3 will look better. That said, most appear to agree that gameplay/immersion has a better chance in Half-Life 2.

As jim1976 so eloquently pointed out, we all have our opinions. I guess I just have a hard time understanding why so many people actually think that HL2 looks better than D3. So for the record, I officially retract and apologize for all crack-head comments, except to the actual crack-heads. Get off your rock candy.

Cheers,

EnochLight

 

[jim1976]

Learn to look more carefully. How could you possibly be of the opinion that HL2 *looks better* after seeing screens of both? It just blows my mind; the details, the lighting, the character models...I just don't understand..? A side-by-side comparison of both proves that, man.

If you read my post more carefully you'll understand that I prefer HL2 because of it's overall gaming experience which amazes me a little bit more than the DoomIII. And saying that I mean gameplay,interaction,AI(though this is based on HL1 experience) and the outdoor graphics which attract me more and give a more complete look in a FPS IMO.
But I admit I'm a little bit O/T here since the title is reffering to a graphical comparison. I've seen and I've played the leaked DoomIII and I don't disagree that it may be better graphically wise.

As for the crack-head references, it's all a joke - no offense meant. Sure you don't have to justify yourself to me, but I also don't have to justify to you what most people can see with their own eyes. Children and adults alike, yung'un. ;-)

See my previous explanation. And I didn't ask you to justify anything
As for the reference no worries. Can happen to everyone. :beer:

 

[Hellfyre]

You can't look at what just looks better, but what runs better on market-standards of graphics cards. I personally have tested doom 3's alpha and the alpha for HL2 and have discovered......THAT THEY RUN THE SAME. The only thing that HL2 has an advantage over, is that it runs better with an NVidia card, while Doom 3 runs better on an ATI, but that might be changing soon as the full release of both games comes out.

 

[Hellfyre]

Originally posted by: Hellfyre
You can't look at what just looks better, but what runs better on market-standards of graphics cards. I personally have tested doom 3's alpha and the alpha for HL2 and have discovered......THAT THEY RUN THE SAME. The only thing that HL2 has an advantage over, is that it runs better with an NVidia card, while Doom 3 runs better on an ATI, but that might be changing soon as the full release of both games comes out.

Another thing...on that note, Doom 3 is focused on interior lighting and detailed graphics while HL2 is focusing on open air environments and huge detailed landscapes. You're looking at 2 entirely different, yet...similar games sharing a completely different area of the same Genre. I honestly believe that you can't compare the two head to head, but what makes it even harder, is the fact that they're totally different milestones in gaming too!

Both Halflife 2 and Doom3 are going to revolutionize how we play games, just like doom did back in the 90's.
It's going to rewrite the quote "This game is 'Nintendo' hard"

 

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Both Halflife 2 and Doom3 are going to revolutionize how we play games, just like doom did back in the 90's.
It's going to rewrite the quote "This game is 'Nintendo' hard"

Not bloody likely.

 

[Enoch2001]

Originally posted by: Hellfyre
Both Halflife 2 and Doom3 are going to revolutionize how we play games, just like doom did back in the 90's.

Let's not forget how mindless FPS's were prior to Half-Life back in the late 90's. I'll bet any amount of money that Doom 3's gameplay has taken some hints from the original "thinking man's game" - Half-Life. I can't wait for either title; it truely is a good time to be a gamer.

Originally posted by: jim1976
And I didn't ask you to justify anything.
As for the reference no worries. Can happen to everyone.

I don't believe I asked you to justify anything either; we're all good. No worries m8!

Cheers,

EnochLight

 

[VIAN]

I don't believe games before HL were that mindless. People talk like HL brought about this new feature that is so revolutionary, but in reality, it was just another game that happened to be good.

 

[Enoch2001]

Originally posted by: VIAN
I don't believe games before HL were that mindless. People talk like HL brought about this new feature that is so revolutionary, but in reality, it was just another game that happened to be good.

I digress. I can't recall any FPS's prior to Half-Life that had such an emersive method of playing, decent AI, and such an open mod community. Remember, when Half-Life came out, it had already been scrapped and delayed for almost a year (sound familiar?) and the graphics were considered old even at the time of its release. It was the game itself and Valve's philosophy of a mod community that earned it "Game of the Year" and countless other awards...and imitators.

Maybe revolutionary is too strong a term, but evolutionary-by-being-at-the-top-of-the-foodchain-in-a-Darwin-sense certainly may fit it better. ;-)

Cheers,

EnochLight
*just an opinion*

 

[MrCoyote]

I'm not voting because "looks" do not create a good game. I believe gameplay is more important. I have a lot of old DOS games, I still play, because they have a lot more replay value and gameplay, then current games. But a lot of you Nintendo Kiddies probably wouldn't understand. That's why PC games are in a rut right now. All the Nintendo Kiddies grew up on consoles and think they are the best thing since sliced bread!

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: Enoch2001
I digress. I can't recall any FPS's prior to Half-Life that had such an emersive method of playing, decent AI, and such an open mod community.

The modding community for Quake1 was far better. Half-Life did redefine awesome AI, unfortunatly, I can't recall who did their AI but I thought it was one of the bot creators for Quake1 (Or a bot creator helped them with it?). Did they work with the creator of reaperbots? It has been a long time.

Can't argue with emersiveness. There were titles before HL but HL did it damn good. Although you can't fault the original doom for not being emersive. Id had a great enough accomplishment just making a game where you could play from a first person perspective fluidly (It wasn't the first, but they were always refining their genre). They were doing great stuff back then. Now, this time around, they will bring as much to the table as they can and we will see what happens.

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: MrCoyote
I'm not voting because "looks" do not create a good game. I believe gameplay is more important. I have a lot of old DOS games, I still play, because they have a lot more replay value and gameplay, then current games. But a lot of you Nintendo Kiddies probably wouldn't understand. That's why PC games are in a rut right now. All the Nintendo Kiddies grew up on consoles and think they are the best thing since sliced bread!

Actually, most console games are loved more for gameplay than graphics. It is the FPS generation that is pushing graphics and gladly so as most every spectrum of gaming is gaining from it. I still have dos games also.

You should still be able to vote, no one is saying that voting on looks will define who will in the gameplay field. A gameplay vote will not be possible until a few months from now.

 

[BoomAM]

Doom2, compared to nowadays games looks basic and not imersive at all.
But i remember playing it back in the day, and was genuiny imersed when playing it.
Both Doom3 & HL2 will be imersive in their own way.
Doom3 will be very scary and make you cautious about everthing in the game, like AVP1+2.
And HL2 will have the feeling of making a big difference, and having a living, breathing city to fight in.
Both will probably will be good, and both will have they`re fans.

I'm not voting because "looks" do not create a good game. I believe gameplay is more important. I have a lot of old DOS games, I still play, because they have a lot more replay value and gameplay, then current games.

Good Point, but...

But a lot of you Nintendo Kiddies probably wouldn't understand.

Have you even played any Nintendo games?
Nintendo games have allways been pure gameplay heaven. Allways have been. Most of them are fun, but challenging at the same time. Look at Zelda. You can be stuck on one point, no idea what to do, then the next time you play, you`ve done it. Very few games have gotten this difficulty factor spot on. And this adds to the gameplay alot. Other Nintendo games, can be pure fun(mario, smb), but easy, or frustrating but fun (F-Zero, MK: DD)

All the Nintendo Kiddies grew up on consoles and think they are the best thing since sliced bread!

I grew up with Nintendo stuff, and now, like many of my peers, respect consoles and PCs for what types of games that they`re best at.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: VIAN
I think the Source engine looks amazing and the interaction with the environments is something I've been hoping for in a game for a while.

Doom III, I haven't seen much of and I've played the leak with my 8500 - and it looked scary, but it isn't anything compared to HL2 graphics that I've seen. And I haven't seen anything about the gameplay that would make it a better game except that it might be much much scarier than HL2, but not necessarily better.

Even though others have surely said it by now, Ill repeat it.


THE DOOM 3 YOU PLAYED WAS A FVCKING LEAKED ALPHA, IF THAT.


Jesus christ. This is why ID wasn't happy about it being released. Dumb fvcks like you would start to judge the graphics.

What the hell is wrong with you?

 

[Enoch2001]

Originally posted by: Excelsior
Dumb fvcks like you would start to judge the graphics.

What the hell is wrong with you?

Yikes! Tell us how you really feel! ;-)

Cheers,

EnochLight

 

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What the hell is wrong with you?

He must be on the drugs.

 

[BoomAM]

Bloody hell Excelsior!
Calm down a little. No need to get worked up. Chill

 

[VisableAssassin]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: VIAN
I think the Source engine looks amazing and the interaction with the environments is something I've been hoping for in a game for a while.

Doom III, I haven't seen much of and I've played the leak with my 8500 - and it looked scary, but it isn't anything compared to HL2 graphics that I've seen. And I haven't seen anything about the gameplay that would make it a better game except that it might be much much scarier than HL2, but not necessarily better.

Even though others have surely said it by now, Ill repeat it.


THE DOOM 3 YOU PLAYED WAS A FVCKING LEAKED ALPHA, IF THAT.


Jesus christ. This is why ID wasn't happy about it being released. Dumb fvcks like you would start to judge the graphics.

What the hell is wrong with you?

jesus man calm down and relax some, get a hug

 

[SickBeast]

Exactly. The title of this thread is "So Far, what looks better? HL2 or Doom III?" Taken that straight into account, most can see that Doom 3 will look better. That said, most appear to agree that gameplay/immersion has a better chance in Half-Life 2.

When I read the title I took it as meaning "looks to be" or "appears to be" better; as in, the whole package, not just graphics. If they said "which has better graphics: DoomIII or HL2?" it would have been a different story. Thus, I took everything into account including gameplay and fun factor and voted for HL2. I'm sure this was the thought process of alot of people on here.

 

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Half Life 2 had a commanding lead in the poll, now Doom 3 is ahead. What happened?