Doesn't matter....according to FL.Why would you think that given the information that indicates that this was apparently a hunting ground to him.
Doesn't matter....according to FL.
And it was, imo. Humble as it might be....
I'd be broke forever! We're talking sent to collections kinda situation happening up in here.Heck no, I'm asking you to join OT. Les stress. less B.S., fun...
and, no, you can't just earn a coin by being cool, else, I'd be RICH.. duh.
You said hunting ground.....doesn't matter in FL.Ok? Has nothing to do with my question though so not sure why you tossed it in. <shrug>.
You just have to post cool...worthy...posts. @ultimatebob can hook you up.I'd be broke forever! We're talking sent to collections kinda situation happening up in here.
I didn't see it mentioned ... Does coolcoin have a potential negative worth and if so is it dealt with through legal means or ATOT thugs. I'm worried about the mess.
Well it's on my radar so I will go back and check it out from time to time. I love to laugh!
I dance on my porch (what I can classify as dancing these days) and tonight I spoke sternly to a group of 12 Magpie's to move it along because their type ain't welcome 'round these parts but then reassured them that I love them because I'm a softy. Good Lawd I'm never gonna win a coin!You said hunting ground.....doesn't matter in FL.
You just have to post cool...worthy...posts. @ultimatebob can hook you up.
But I wouldn't expect to get wealthy. @shortylickens is still scabbing someone else's girlfriend. @Darwin333 is still squeezing his butt cheeks and @Jeeebus is having some bathroom issues.
And I'm the local collector. Take my $$ and don't repay, I'll BBQ your cat.
just kiddin......
Doesn't matter....according to FL..
Ha, same. Fat, old, balding, scolding "my" hummingbirds for not finding the other feeder. Bastages.I dance on my porch (what I can classify as dancing these days) and tonight I spoke sternly to a group of 12 Magpie's to move it along because their type ain't welcome 'round these parts but then reassured them that I love them because I'm a softy. Good Lawd I'm never gonna win a coin!
My father in law has lost the taste for squirrel. He's converted to humane traps and a trip across the river. He's not sure how they're doing it but he thinks they're finding their way back.Ha, same. Fat, old, balding, scolding "my" hummingbirds for not finding the other feeder. Bastages.
I did shoot the squirrels though. And they were kind of tasty.
So Drejka's new defense is that he was impaired? McGlockton was held at bay by the gun regardless of his intentions. The conditions of honest self defense were fulfilled at that very moment. It was in no way necessary to kill McGlockton unless he advanced. He did not.
Doubt it. The murderer was there to start a problem that could escalate to the point where he could whip something out, in this case his gun. He fully intended to shoot/kill someone. He took the time to aim at the man's chest. Why not anywhere else on his body that wouldn't have killed him?I wouldn't be surprised if the defense lawyer will use that as a defense. He will say that things were moving too fast, Drejka was stunned when he hit the ground from the complete blindside hit and was in fear of his life. In Drejka's mindset, he was about to be assaulted further, so he responded with self-defense. Lawyer will claim everything happened in a manner of seconds, no time to a long thought out process.
It's obvious the stand your ground law is the source of the problem. McGlockton shouldn't have just blinded sided the old white man. Doesn't mean he deserved to die, not at all, but if he just yelled out "Leave my girl alone!" or "What the fuck are you doing!". It could've ended differently.
A neo-nazi that used to hang out here until, as I recall, he finally went too far and got the boot.
Why not anywhere else on his body that wouldn't have killed him?
Well as I said before he brought pushing hands to a gun fight. The murderer was ONLY looking to kill someone. And from the video I do not believe the murderer felt he was in further danger. To be clear I think the murderer is a piece of shit and should go to jail for the rest of his miserable life.That's not how it works in a self-defense predicament or with police drawing weapons on a threat. You train to drop people, not to intimidate or make them limp away in shock. Shooting to wound is how you invite return fire. Definitely not something you do when you are on your ass like the shooter was. Note that the victim was struck center mass and still ran away. That energy and remaining blood pressure in an attacker sometimes isn't used for retreat.
Well as I said before he brought pushing hands to a gun fight..
Well a cop is usually dealing with a crime, not someone pissed off about harassing his girlfriend. He didn't even need to shoot him at all, as soon as he hit the ground the assailant had his hands in his pockets just standing there. Not that I'm defending him in any way, this was an assault and he defiantly deserved to be arrested and charged for shoving him to the ground. IMPO the scrawny, weak, winy asshole just wanted to start arguments and had previously threatened to kill someone else over a damm parking spot.That's not how it works in a self-defense predicament or with police drawing weapons on a threat. You train to drop people, not to intimidate or make them limp away in shock. Shooting to wound is how you invite return fire. Definitely not something you do when you are on your ass like the shooter was. Note that the victim was struck center mass and still ran away. That energy and remaining blood pressure in an attacker sometimes isn't used for retreat.
Not that I'm defending him in any way, this was an assault and he defiantly deserved to be arrested and charged for shoving him to the ground. IMPO the scrawny, weak, winy asshole just wanted to start arguments and had previously threatened to kill someone else over a damm parking spot.
Once you choose to assault another person, all bets are off in terms of their response
Neither do I, but the law will side with him regardless, his story of "well, I thought he might attack me again" is BS IMO, he had clearly already stopped and hands were in his pockets before the gun was drawn, once the weapon was produced he was trying to get away from it. I doubt a DA will bring charges because the law, (as written and currently interpreted) allows this.Nonsense. No honest reading of stand your ground law in Florida yields a standard where killing someone for pushing you is defensible.
Looking at the video, the black guy shoved him and stopped. The other guy drew his gun, aimed and fired.
I don't see any reasonable fear of death in that video.
So Drejka's new defense is that he was impaired? McGlockton was held at bay by the gun regardless of his intentions. The conditions of honest self defense were fulfilled at that very moment. It was in no way necessary to kill McGlockton unless he advanced. He did not.
I don't see any reasonable fear of death in that video.
he had clearly already stopped and hands were in his pockets before the gun was drawn
Throwing someone to the ground over pavement is deadly force due to the risk of head injury. There’s been two well publicized deaths in the past month from head injuries due to someone throwing the victim to the ground. One incident at a crosswalk in Cambridge, MA and the incident at a BART station.Nonsense. No honest reading of stand your ground law in Florida yields a standard where killing someone for pushing you is defensible.
Looking at the video, the black guy shoved him and stopped. The other guy drew his gun, aimed and fired.
I don't see any reasonable fear of death in that video.
Of course he was emboldened by his gun. He's an old man picking fights.The shooting happened in the immediate aftermath of the assault and yes, being violently shoved to the ground can effect one's ability to process. Any impairment, mental or physical, only increases the validity of the self-defense argument. Does it not make sense that any physical injury or mental slowness caused by the assault would lessen Drejka's ability to defend himself and place him in greater fear for his life? McGlockton did advance. He then stopped but he was still close enough to cause harm when he was shot.
The premise of the law is that self-defense is allowed when in fear for one's life. It doesn't matter what McGlockton was or was not going to do after the initial assault - only what Drejka feared McGlockton might do based on the events that occurred. Up until the shooting, discounting Jacobs parking in the handicapped spot without a visible tag, the only law broken was the physical assault of Drejka by McGlockton.
You seem to be arguing that Drejka probably felt emboldened by his weapon and was trying to find a way to legally shoot someone. Maybe he did and maybe he was, but it does not matter as it pertains to Florida's law. Even the biggest racist is allowed the right of self-defense (and I am not speculating on Drejka's moral values). All that matters is those few seconds from assault to shooting, and what we can reasonably believe Drejka was feeling during those few seconds.
I understand that you may not like the law, but Drejka appears to be within his legal rights, so much so that the DA isn't even filing charges to let a jury decide.
I encourage you to familiarize yourself with your self-defense rights in your state and work to change them if you disagree with them.
Throwing someone to the ground over pavement is deadly force due to the risk of head injury. There’s been two well publicized deaths in the past month from head injuries due to someone throwing the victim to the ground. One incident at a crosswalk in Cambridge, MA and the incident at a BART station.
I am sure the two deceased think its nonsense
The premise of the law is that self-defense is allowed when in fear for one's life. It doesn't matter what McGlockton was or was not going to do after the initial assault - only what Drejka feared McGlockton might do based on the events that occurred.