So have you CRT lovers finally bitten the bullet and gone LCD?

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ViRGE

Elite Member, Moderator Emeritus
Oct 9, 1999
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I finally made the switch about 8 months ago. I found NEC's IPS panels and haven't looked back since.
 

JRW

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Jun 29, 2005
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I have both , a Sony FW900 CRT and a NEC 20WMGX2 LCD, To be honest I use the CRT for just about everything, ill probably end up selling the LCD to a friend soon after gets his new pc together.
 

Lucu

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I'm a gamer on a budget, that means i buy a midrange graphics card and it must last 2 or 3 years (i use a 6600gt at 1024*768, only now i begin to feel i need a better graphics card).

A LCD would force me to spend more and more often on graphics cards to be able to sustain a higher resolution. That's the main reason i won't go LCD.

But i'm gaming less and less with as years go by, so eventualy when my CRT dies i'll buy a LCD.
 

soydios

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Mar 12, 2006
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CRTs still outperform LCDs (same thing: better colors, better blacks, better response times). LCDs have just gotten a lot better and have closed the gap by a fair amount, but not enough for professional image editing and such.
 

Shamrock

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Oct 11, 1999
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Nope! NEC FE1250+ ftw! Ghosting is NOT a thing of the past. It still exists, you still have to buy a $600+ LCD for it to not show up, PLUS you must also buy a high $$$ lcd for it to not pixelate in high action sequences.
 

aggressor

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Oct 10, 1999
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My CRT is a bit dull now (contrast wise), but I still prefer it over any current LCD. I could live with the fixed resolutions, but viewing angles and colors on the faster panels blow, and the ones with good viewing angles and colors have blurring.

Maybe in a few more years...
 

fierydemise

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Apr 16, 2005
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Nope, I'll switch when my dell branded diamondtron dies although I doubt I'll be switching over to an LCD.
 

ninethirty

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I have 2 21" CRTs still. Like a lot of people, I don't keep them because of color reproduction or great black levels (although they're nice), but just because there's no reason to replace them yet. Well, until recently-- the Diamondtron is now on max brightness and the colors are off, so it's on its way out. I can't decide if I'll replace it with a 21" LCD, or replace both with a 24" LCD.
As an aside, I tried to use power draw to rationalize the price of an LCD, but a 21" LCD draws 65w. My 21" CRT draws 130w at full power, so exactly double the LCD. Still, it'd take longer than the LCD's lifespan for it to pay for itself using power savings alone. Like, 10 years of constant use. Easier to save the 65w by just turning off the hall light.
 

aka1nas

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In most cases, LCDs have closed the gap with lower-end to mid-range CRTs in the last few years. Most of the folks here who can't stand LCDs own(ed) CRTs on the higher-end side. I switched over last year from my old Samsung 955DF, which wasn't too shabby a monitor but still decidedly a budget CRT. I've found colors and IQ to be far better on the two TN panels I've owned since then. Viewing Angle issues are far less noticeable than convergence issues were on every CRT I ever owned.
 

gramboh

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I had a low/mid range CRT (Samsung 997MB) which I loved for gaming (FPS especially) but 19in was too small and it wasn't feasible in terms of space/shipping costs to try to get a refurb 21/24in CRT so I picked up a Dell 2407WFP onsale for $650Canadian shipped. At first I couldn't do well in FPS multiplayer games because of the image smearing when I would make quick movements (180's etc) but after a month and a half I am used to it and doing as well as ever.

There is no debate that a CRT is better overall for gaming, if you can find a good one and have the space/don't mind the heat. Overall I'm happy with the 2407, desktop is soooooo much better/sharper (my CRT wasn't high end trinitron tube though), colours are better (again my CRT wasn't that good) and it doesn't put out a crapload of heat. 1920x1200 is also cool, and I can display 1600x1200 without scaling (pillarboxed) which is nice. If I can't play games with good fps at 1600x1200 I'll upgrade my video card.
 

fern420

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not me. i still have yet to find a lcd that can hold a candle to my sony FW-900

Originally posted by: JRW
I have both , a Sony FW900 CRT and a NEC 20WMGX2 LCD, To be honest I use the CRT for just about everything, ill probably end up selling the LCD to a friend soon after gets his new pc together.


if it werent for you i wouldn't have this wonderful fw-900, heheh, you were the one who convinced me to get it and i havnt looked back, i almost bought another on ebay just to have a back up if this one ever dies, hehehe.
 

Munky

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No, still using a CRT, and not even a high end one. Still beats the black levels on pretty much any LCD, plus I'm not limited to just one resolution. When it dies, hopefully something better than LCD's will be available.
 

sandorski

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Oct 10, 1999
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My Mitsubishi Diamondtron is still going strong after 7ish years. Hope it lasts a few more before I have to switch. The LCDs I've seen just don't compare.
 

Creig

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Originally posted by: NFS4
So have you holdouts finally made the switch?

Nope. And I don't plan to until there's something that's overall better. Why compromise if you don't have to? If my A7217A dies I'll simply find another to replace it unless a competing technology has finally equaled or surpassed it by then.
 

Aikouka

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Nov 27, 2001
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Yes, because desk space is cool and not even God would spare me for putting two large CRTs on one desk .
 

GunsMadeAmericaFree

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Why would I want to do that? My kids would trash an LCD monitor within a few days. Thankfully, a CRT monitor can withstand their attentions.

Price is also a concern. There is a place near here where I can get nice 19" CRT monitors for 20 bucks. Show me a place selling good used 19" LCD monitors for that price.

Also, I just don't consider LCD technology to be proven yet. It doesn't look as sharp to me, and I've had friends show me burnt out pixels on their monitors that are not yet a year old. Funny thing is, not one of my CRT monitors had bad pixels after just a year of use.

So, CRT is still cheaper, more durable, and gives a sharper image. Why in the world would I consider paying big bucks for an inferior product? It would be like letting a door to door salesman sucker you into paying $200 for an 8 track player, then getting rid of your CD player to make room for it.
 

destrekor

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my requirement that forced me to buy an LCD was space concerns. If I could and had the space, I'd use a CRT any day. Just the same with my tv. If good CRT's handled the resolutions (720p) that I wanted (because of PS3), I would have gotten one of those. However, all the 1080i sets lacked proper support for 720p, and were those extra flat models that typically had geometry issues.
 

timzak

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My 19" Mitsubishi CRT got repaired under warranty @ 2.5 years old (warranty is 3 years) so I guess I'm good til it dies.
 

kmmatney

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Originally posted by: soydios
CRTs still outperform LCDs (same thing: better colors, better blacks, better response times). LCDs have just gotten a lot better and have closed the gap by a fair amount, but not enough for professional image editing and such.

My father-in-law works for Disney, as an engineer for imagineering, and I have been to his work many times and observed "professional" graphic artists at work, and they use LCDs. From what I've seen, the whole "Graphic Artists use CRTs" is just a myth...

 

fern420

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Originally posted by: kmmatney
Originally posted by: soydios
CRTs still outperform LCDs (same thing: better colors, better blacks, better response times). LCDs have just gotten a lot better and have closed the gap by a fair amount, but not enough for professional image editing and such.

My father-in-law works for Disney, as an engineer for imagineering, and I have been to his work many times and observed "professional" graphic artists at work, and they use LCDs. From what I've seen, the whole "Graphic Artists use CRTs" is just a myth...

those are not regular lcds that people have on their home pc. they professional SpectraView monitors like this:

http://www.alvio.com/product_view.aspx?product_ID=4472&source_ID=froogle

 

JRW

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Originally posted by: kmmatney
Originally posted by: soydios
CRTs still outperform LCDs (same thing: better colors, better blacks, better response times). LCDs have just gotten a lot better and have closed the gap by a fair amount, but not enough for professional image editing and such.

My father-in-law works for Disney, as an engineer for imagineering, and I have been to his work many times and observed "professional" graphic artists at work, and they use LCDs. From what I've seen, the whole "Graphic Artists use CRTs" is just a myth...

A Myth eh? Well these days im sure there are nice LCDs for graphic artist usage but they're not your typical mainstream LCD's , LCDs that have wide color gamuts tend to be very expensive and have very slow response times ..so you'd have to choose which is more important to you.

Here's some random hits I found doing a google search:

CRTs can provide richer color in a fuller spectrum than most LCDs. In general, graphic artists prefer CRT monitors because they show truer colors and greater nuance-particularly useful for preparing files for printing and for using photo applications such as Adobe® Photoshop®." - Source: Viewsonic.com

"In general, graphic artists prefer CRT monitors because they show truer colors and greater nuance, whereas people who work mostly with text gravitate toward LCDs because pixels on an LCD have well-defined edges, resulting in sharply focused letters. Because CRTs redraw their screens more quickly than LCDs--so moving images never leave visible trails--gamers prefer them, too. " - Source: pcworld.com

"Simply put, an LCD monitor's color accuracy does not match a CRT monitor's. In most cases, CRTs provide richer color in a fuller spectrum than LCDs. Because of this, graphic artists prefer CRT monitors" - Source: lcdmonitor.org

"Despite its rather sci-fi sounding name, a CRT is the same as the picture tube inside your TV. They work by firing beams of electrons at phosphor dots on the inside of a glass tube. The phosphors in a CRT are chemicals that emit red, green or blue light when hit by electrons. These monitors are capable of multiple resolutions, give the best look to full-motion video and provide better control over colour calibration for graphic artists." - Source: lcdtvbuyingguide.com
 

FrancesBeansRevenge

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Still using my beloved 21" Sony G520 (Dell rebadge).... I wasn't a fan of LCDs but in the last year I've seen some very impressive screens. Still, I won't upgrade till this thing gives up the ghost.
 

PhatoseAlpha

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No. It's not that I have any deep hate of LCDs. Just the my P275 can run high resolutions when I can manage them in games, but be turned down without big IQ penalties. The fact that a decent LCD capable of 16x12 or 1680x1080 are still somewhat pricey doesn't help either.
 

jzodda

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Apr 12, 2000
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I answer that by saying "yes" and "no"

For gaming I have a 37 inch LCD (in sig-found out about it at HardOCP forum) used for PC + Xbox360 gaming.

For everything else I have my trusty 7 year old 21 inch DellP1110 CRT now moved into my bedroom. Carrying that upstairs was a bitch

Untill it finally busts I will NEVER give it up
 
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