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Burpo

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We'll get updates when there are some.. Right now there are none, and some programs just don't work. With the X86 version, benchmarks are significantly slower.
 
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Ketchup

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We'll get updates when there are some.. Right now there are none, and some programs just don't work. With the X86 version, benchmarks are significantly slower.

Read the post below yours.

For reference, I installed KB3001512 this morning. The installer fails due to compatibility issues, the the executable from the zip gives very little data, so they will have to do some tinkering for 10.

Personally, I would like to know some of what they are doing under the hood, which is obviously causing some sort of compatibility issues. Right now all I see is 8.1 with a silly start menu (at least it has one) and a taskbar that won't change color.

Oh, and you may want to hold off installing this update anyway. Read more here:
http://netitude.bc3tech.net/2014/10/03/windows-10s-dangerous-update-kb3001512/
 
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Oh, and you may want to hold off installing this update anyway. Read more here:
http://netitude.bc3tech.net/2014/10/03/windows-10s-dangerous-update-kb3001512/

Clicked your link, read "dangerous update", got hyped to see what would go down if you install it. Unfortunately, "dangerous" not found, just a bug in a technical preview (i.e. beta) release.

To answer the topic question, I like it. Good meld of traditional desktop and metro, what I wish 8 would have been. I'm a Surface user and while I'm only trying the W10TP in a VM on my desktop, I think it's going to be nice for touch.

I know we haven't seen all of what W10 will offer yet, but the multi-desktop works great and makes W10 an instant upgrade for me on my work computer.
 

ArisVer

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I had one update (set to auto) and it was the KB3001512. No issues installing it (on a VM). There were also 3 updates for the Windows Defender.

Only issue I had was when I changed to the default theme and my login screen changed to a black backround. I wonder if this is normal behaviour.
 
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Ketchup

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I had one update (set to auto) and it was the KB3001512. No issues installing it (on a VM). There were also 3 updates for the Windows Defender.

Only issue I had was when I changed to the default theme and my login screen changed to a black backround. I wonder if this is normal behaviour.

That usually means that Windows cannot find the background you were using. Is it a Windows background? If not, make sure it is in the original location. If it is, might be a bug.
 

ArisVer

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It has been fixed, how I do not know. It was only the login screen backround, instead of the blue one I got a black one. Also black was the color of the start menu backround. It was like this for at least four restarts.
 

rge2

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Out-of-the-box, Windows 10 is WAY better than Windows 8. This is how Windows 8 should have started out - way more desktop friendly.

I agree completely. I have been dual booting with 10 and 7 since 10 came out...I like it. I will update to 10 as soon as it is available.

While clearly technical build quality, washed out look, driver issues, lot of features probably still in alpha quality and not added yet like wmc, file stuff, etc but ms said missing lot of bells and whistles that will get put in later.

But you can customize 10 like you want, dont like tiles you can get rid of them completely to look like 7, or even have it look like smartphone OS w8.

As for performance, too early to really test performance yet, but...

3dmark firestrike extreme scores for win7 and win10 were the same within margin of error, 344.11 drivers for both, and my 24/7 settings 4970k at 4.8, gtx titan core 1162.
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/4270178 win7, 4.8ghz 4790k, 1162 titan core = 5372 score
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/4270674 win10 4.8ghz 4790k, 1162 titan core = 5396 score

However, 3dmark 11, 300 points less with windows 10....? windows 10 not optimized with older direct x 9, etc graphics, also same issue in pcmark8, somone on xtreme saw same.
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8799281 win7, 4.8ghz 4790k, 1162 titan core = 15399 score
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8799324 win10 4.8ghz 4790k, 1162 titan core = 15081 score

In PCmark8 with both 10 and 7, most tests showed very similar performance between 7 and 10, except 10 very slightly faster in some things though probably within margin of error, but web browsing and direct x 9 graphics caused overall score for win 10 to be lower and still needs refining.

Have to just wait until 10 matures more to test, but looks like they need to optimize 10 with older direct x drivers/graphics, or come out with some new testing for windows 10 or both.
 

Insert_Nickname

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While clearly technical build quality, washed out look, driver issues, lot of features probably still in alpha quality and not added yet like wmc, file stuff, etc but ms said missing lot of bells and whistles that will get put in later.

About the "washed out" look, make sure desktop scaling is disabled. That should crisp things up, though desktop icons and dialogue boxes might look a bit small on larger screens with high resolution.

Don't forget to run monitor calibration too...
 

Burpo

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Interesting benchmark comparison Windows 7 vs Windows 10 on X58 rig..

I had an old screenshot of 3DMark06 running Win7 @ 207 BCLK.
I tested 3DMark06 on the same rig running Win10 @ 201 BCLK.

Below is side by side results (crude but viewable). 10 seems to wring a bit more out of same components. 30,762 is my highest yet & done with slightly less overclock.. Optimized better or possible difference in drivers? CPU scores are close.

 
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bbhaag

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Are you guys really bench marking this release already? What about usability? Isn't that really what the tech preview is for?
 

Burpo

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Obviously it's been usable since release, and has some nice features that we like, but some utilities and programs don't work with it. It uses less resources and feels faster. We'd like to know if it is & what changed under the hood..
 
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bbhaag

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Oh ya I'd like to see some under the hood improvements to. Rumor is Win10 might get a new version of DX but thats all I've heard. Personally I'd like to see file transfer speed increased.
 

zokudu

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Anyone else have their Windows Update break? Mine says it cannot search for new updates and the update troubleshooter keeps repairing the same 3 things whenever I run it.

EDIT There's a feedback comment, in the feedback app with 15 upvotes saying the same thing. At least I'm not alone.
 
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sweenish

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Oh ya I'd like to see some under the hood improvements to. Rumor is Win10 might get a new version of DX but thats all I've heard. Personally I'd like to see file transfer speed increased.

Should ship with 12, which is MS's big push into getting devs "closer to the copper."
 

Burpo

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May have broke SLEEP with latest update.. Mine didn't wake this morn without a reboot, 1st time that's happened. Was working perfectly, all I had to do was touch the mouse to "wake" it.
Win 7 had a problem with my board on "wake" so was never able to use it..
 

BD2003

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I ended up rolling back to Win 8 because handbrake didn't work. It generally feels pretty solid for a beta, but there's enough little things not working properly that it's not ready for full time use yet. Performance was very good though. I'll give it another shot after the next big update.
 

Burpo

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Resetting power plan back to default cured the sleep/wake problems
 

ArisVer

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This thread might be usefull to the people running Win10. The title is "Programs that for 100% don't work in Windows 10 Technical Preview".

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...903-bccc-443b78921808?page=1&tm=1412724246598


1. Norton Security - Can't install this. Error: "You cant install this product in compability mode".

2. KIS - BSOD

3. Avast - Compability problems

4. Norton Secure ID - Compability problems

5. F-Secure - Compability problems

6. K-Lite codec pack for media player - " "The file C:\Windows\SysWOW64\regsvr32.exe has an incorrect version (6.4.9841.0)."

7. Wanderlist - " fails to load "
8. Microsoft Sculpt Comfort Mouse
9. Symantec Endpoint - Installation failed
10. Logitech Download Manager - "complains about a missing DLL on boot"
11. Virtualbox Guest Editions
12. HIPS
 

Skaendo

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Wow, they have a few bugs to work out yet. The only program I use on Windows is even in there. (K-Lite)
 

Puffnstuff

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I think that I'm going to stick with windows 7 and pass on another failed os attempt from Microsoft.
 

Skaendo

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I think that I'm going to stick with windows 7 and pass on another failed os attempt from Microsoft.
This is a tech preview. Of course it's going to be buggy. Don't shoot it down till it's released officially.
 

sweenish

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I'm waiting for the guest additions before I spend too much time with it.
 

Ketchup

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This is a tech preview. Of course it's going to be buggy. Don't shoot it down till it's released officially.

How to you know what he was referring to? The fact that he used the word failed? I don't like it either, and it has nothing to do with the fact that it has beta bugs.
 
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