So how are you liking Win10 so far?

[Ichinisan]

You can use your own browser,personally I have never used Microsoft browser as default since IE3,sure I had a play with Edge out of curiosity but still use good old Firefox as my default and browser of my choice.

Win10 been solid for me so far,all drivers working,very stable,no issues in gaming or browsing.

I'm using Win10 on my home computer, remotely from my Win7 workstation at work. When I leave the RDC window idle, it locks-up on a black screen for a while. Eventually comes back and it's unresponsive for a while and my mouse pointer just shows the spinner. Hoping this stuff clears-up with a fresh / vanilla install.

 

[CZroe]

You can use your own browser,personally I have never used Microsoft browser as default since IE3,sure I had a play with Edge out of curiosity but still use good old Firefox as my default and browser of my choice.

Win10 been solid for me so far,all drivers working,very stable,no issues in gaming or browsing.

Is English your native language? Genuinely curious about your punctuation and capitalization. Not an insult.

You really should move up to Chrome.

 

[Eug]

So you always get different opinions,I've done two upgrades both fine,brother did 7 to 10 with no issues,I still stand by its not as buggy like some Microsoft Operating systems I could name.

To be fair Win7 had Vista SP2 as a template and you could say Win7 was a new " Vista SP3 with speed improvements",Win10 was back to square one from Win8/8.1 in many ways,throw in it has to handle all types of hardware as well.

I see Win 10 as sort of as Win 8.5.

 

[Mem]

I see Win 10 as sort of as Win 8.5.

Win7 was more of a minor upgrade from Vista SP2,Win10 builds on Win8/8.1 but enough changes both visually and improvements to make it more then 8.5 IMHO.

Two main issues in 8/8.1 were Metro and Start button menu that Microsoft changed from the feedback/complaints by people in general.

 

[Ramses]

Edge is pretty wonky, it really does remind me of chrome in the early days. Buggy, short of features, etc. Has potential though.

 

[Mem]

Edge is pretty wonky, it really does remind me of chrome in the early days. Buggy, short of features, etc. Has potential though.

Microsoft are trying too hard,they should stick with IE rather then try and compete with Chrome etc...

I'm sure they will make changes to it over time or Edge 2 version down the road.

 

[Ramses]

Microsoft are trying too hard,they should stick with IE rather then try and compete with Chrome etc...

I'm sure they will make changes to it over time or Edge 2 version down the road.

I tend to agree. I actually thought IE was "ok". I've used it as my default browser for opening links from other apps and stuff for ages while actually using chrome or firefox. I don't use it enough to be annoyed by it I guess but what little I do it's OK. Grasping at market share I guess.

 

[Ichinisan]

Tried to use aerosnap keyboard shortcut with Edge browser ([WinKey]+[RightArrowKey]).

Got distracted while uploading the screenshots to Dropbox (from Chrome). Alt+Tab to switch back to Edge and the window is completely white except for the min/max/close buttons. Keyboard shortcuts do nothing. Back/forward on mouse do nothing. I had to close it and re-open. I think I lost a post that I was typing.

[edit]

That's actually a single window...not 2 side-by-side.

 

[Ichinisan]

For a start Win10 is Win10 not Win7 or XP or even Vista,some people keep forgetting this,don't expect the OS to look and be like Win7 or any other Operating Systems because only thing it has in common is it's a Microsoft OS.

Personally no issues here so IMHO very polished for a new OS,I remember WinXP being more beta in final release then what you stated with Win10.
Don't get me started on WinME as worst then alpha let alone beta stage.

UI look is always going to be a personal thing, so Microsoft will never get that 100% right for everyone,in some ways I'm glad they ditched the Win7 UI/look and trying some things new from Win8 onwards.

See my previous post with the glitches I experienced, while reading your post!

 

[TeknoBug]

Trying to use the Edge browser this morning, I feel the same way. Countless UI flaws and lost functionality. I can't even consistently type an address after pressing Ctrl+T to open a new tab (the box loses keyboard focus).

I like some ideas, like the OSX / iOS style panel for system notifications. The implementation of almost everything just doesn't have enough refinement to be released in this state.

Same happens to me when I use Edge, it stops typing randomly and hangs for a bit.

 

[Mem]

See my previous post with the glitches I experienced, while reading your post!

I believe you,as I stated I don't use Edge or even Chrome.

I'm sure those bugs will be fixed in time.

 

[Mem]

Is English your native language? Genuinely curious about your punctuation and capitalization. Not an insult.

You really should move up to Chrome.

Bad week since having the whole house rewired and kitchen refitted so not worrying too much today or this week in general on my grammar as you can probably guess,lack of kitchen and sleep does not help.

Few more beers might help .

As to Chrome,I've tried it but find it is still basic compared to Firefox which has better customisation.

Ex-Opera user but the new Opera(chromium based) is still too basic.

 

[destrekor]

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2955...features-that-eliminate-everyday-hassles.html


There's some things in there even I didn't know, and hadn't discovered in the Previews. Once I get home I'll be upgrading my desktop.

Finally, a Command Prompt that doesn't suck when compared to just about every other Console out there.

That Game DVR / video recording thing might turn out to be a huge feature. Fraps (for recording) to be killed off, essentially? The free version is limited to short clips. This sounds like it can be pulled up in any app, to which I assume also means any game, not just XBOX/Windows Store games.

I wonder, if you use it from the desktop on any particular app, if it only records the app that is in focus or if it is a full-screen recording.

Continued the research, and read this:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2949...ame-dvr-tool-to-capture-video-in-any-app.html

It doesn't quite cover EVERYTHING, like you can't record general desktop or system-level operations, the Game Bar won't show up there or in File Explorer or Notepad, but it shows up in steam, so it must just be anything that's not a basic Windows application (curious if it would record desktop-versions of Office applications or Wordpad, Internet Explorer, etc. It probably is available to use in Edge.

I hope it is available for any game out there, that would be quite awesome for Microsoft to include a native ability to do what you have to currently use third-party tools to achieve.

My only wish that I'll continue to state: dammit I want a tabbed Explorer!

 

[CZroe]

Bad week since having the whole house rewired and kitchen refitted so not worrying too much today or this week in general on my grammar as you can probably guess,lack of kitchen and sleep does not help.

Few more beers might help .

As to Chrome,I've tried it but find it is still basic compared to Firefox which has better customisation.

Ex-Opera user but the new Opera(chromium based) is still too basic.

I mean that I don't know anywhere where a comma is used without a space following it so I'm wondering where you picked it up. Technically, most of those should be periods but I have seen plenty of people informally substitute commas for periods and those would have spaces too (unless used in an abbreviation, like "U.S.A.").

As a result you have less separation between sentences than you have between words, which is odd because you typically want MORE space to make the sentences easier to spot within the paragraph. That's why schools once suggested two spaces between sentences when things were typed on a mono-spaced typewriter. Is this a character-saving trick for Twitter?

I stuck with Firefox for far longer than I should have just because BBCode shortcuts on these forums don't work on Chrome (CTRL+U, I, B, etc). Eventually I couldn't tolerate the out-of-control memory usage that they still hadn't fixed a couple years ago.

 

[MagickMan]

Eh...

I'll adapt, I guess.

 

[Eug]

I tend to agree. I actually thought IE was "ok". I've used it as my default browser for opening links from other apps and stuff for ages while actually using chrome or firefox. I don't use it enough to be annoyed by it I guess but what little I do it's OK. Grasping at market share I guess.

While IE is now OK by many measures, it is also saddled by many years of bloat, and is really designed for desktop usage. I think they just wanted to start fresh to get a small and fast browser. Remember, this OS is supposed to be cross-platform, and IE isn't really a great basis on which to continue developing a mobile browser.

In a way it reminds me of the rise of Safari on the Mac. The Mac had Internet Explorer, but it was essentially a port of the MS version and while it worked decently well on the Mac it was even more bloated and it was slow.

Jobs then decided to take things into his own hands and commissioned a super fast browser to speed up the (then G3 and G4) Macs, using a fork of KHTML. I'm not sure he had this in mind at the time, but probably to a certain extent: It also allowed Apple to quickly slim down Safari to put on the iPhone later. Can you imaging trying to put Internet Explorer on the iPhone? That would have been a disaster.

 

[Mem]

I mean that I don't know anywhere where a comma is used without a space following it so I'm wondering where you picked it up. Technically, most of those should be periods but I have seen plenty of people informally substitute commas for periods and those would have spaces too (unless used in an abbreviation, like "U.S.A.").

As a result you have less separation between sentences than you have between words, which is odd because you typically want MORE space to make the sentences easier to spot within the paragraph. That's why schools once suggested two spaces between sentences when things were typed on a mono-spaced typewriter. Is this a character-saving trick for Twitter?

I stuck with Firefox for far longer than I should have just because BBCode shortcuts on these forums don't work on Chrome (CTRL+U, I, B, etc). Eventually I couldn't tolerate the out-of-control memory usage that they still hadn't fixed a couple years ago.

With respect these are forums not an English school,reason I post here is to do with computers and software in general not how or the way I type,yes I get lazy here with my punctuation but then don't we all?

I get my main point across.
Now stop derailing this thread .

Getting back to Win10 and the MAIN topic in hand, I think it will be interesting to see what Win10 SR1 does to the general improvements and bug fixes.
I guess we will have to wait and see.

 

[Eug]

I think it will be interesting to see what Win10 SR1 does to the general improvements and bug fixes.
I guess we will have to wait and see.

I originally said that everyone with older hardware and a free upgrade to Win 10 should strongly consider doing that update to Win 10, because it makes those old machines feel much more responsive.

I will have to qualify that. I still believe that Win 10 is where it's at, but right now it's just too buggy for many end users. Perhaps SR1 will be the time to do the upgrade.

That's not a surprise though. I've always said that for Windows, it's good to wait for the SP1 release before upgrading. On the Mac, for primary machines, it's always good to wait for several point updates before upgrading. Hell, for Mavericks, I waited something like 9 months.

 

[Ichinisan]

With respect these are forums not an English school,reason I post here is to do with computers and software in general not how or the way I type,yes I get lazy here with my punctuation but then don't we all?

I get my main point across.
Now stop derailing this thread .

Getting back to Win10 and the MAIN topic in hand, I think it will be interesting to see what Win10 SR1 does to the general improvements and bug fixes.
I guess we will have to wait and see.

It is kinda strange and it made me wonder if you were using an alternative type of input device.

 

[Ketchup]

I did find it interesting that my laptop (at least 5 years old) did a wonderful update to Windows 7. After cloning my desktop drive and running the Windows 10 install, I was surprised how many drivers for a Z97 board the latest OS does not have. I could understand the Asmedia drivers, but Intel drivers for a chipset that have been out for over a year?

 

[Ramses]

I did find it interesting that my laptop (at least 5 years old) did a wonderful update to Windows 7. After cloning my desktop drive and running the Windows 10 install, I was surprised how many drivers for a Z97 board the latest OS does not have. I could understand the Asmedia drivers, but Intel drivers for a chipset that have been out for over a year?

I think they close the driver packaging pretty early on except for special cases, it's always been that way, if your hardware was a year or two old when they started working on the OS you'd be ok, anything newer was hit or miss at best.
I actually used the drivers for your board from asus as they updated before mine did (z97-ws, and in fact they STILL do not list win10), I have a hard time locating drivers on Intel's site for some reason still, and the driver update tool says there aren't any of course. It was pretty sloppy all around I thought. Not that the default MS stuff didn't work, and well enough for core functions, but still. I'm also puzzled why outfits like Asus and HP were just starting to list win10 drivers after the OS was released. Duh? lol...

I really miss just downloading the Catalyst package and being done with it. I still can't tell if I have the latest drivers installed on this thing or not but the drive speeds test out well and nothing is on fire...

 

[destrekor]

It is kinda strange and it made me wonder if you were using an alternative type of input device.

Would you and your brother mind knocking it off? Seriously, we get it, you are obsessed with the proper use of English/language. You don't need to correct everyone and babble on about "well.. it was weird, it seemed weird man. are you doing something weird?"

 

[Eug]

I did find it interesting that my laptop (at least 5 years old) did a wonderful update to Windows 7. After cloning my desktop drive and running the Windows 10 install, I was surprised how many drivers for a Z97 board the latest OS does not have. I could understand the Asmedia drivers, but Intel drivers for a chipset that have been out for over a year?

My laptop updated beautifully.

My nettop wouldn't update at all until I did a clean Win 7 install. For that clean Win 7 install, I made sure all the latest drivers were installed before updating to Win 10. Win 10 deleted several of those drivers upon install, so I had to reinstall them later. Same thing happened with a clean Win 10 install. Lots of missing drivers. The same missing ones as before in fact.

If I were an average user, I'd have given up a long time ago with that nettop and stuck with Win 7.

 

[Ichinisan]

Would you and your brother mind knocking it off? Seriously, we get it, you are obsessed with the proper use of English/language. You don't need to correct everyone and babble on about "well.. it was weird, it seemed weird man. are you doing something weird?"

Would you mind knocking it off? Not correcting anyone. Just curious.

 

[Mem]

Would you mind knocking it off? Not correcting anyone. Just curious.

Just remember English is not native to every member here, end of the day the AT forums should be a place any member can comfortably post without being insulted or grammar dissected in one form or another.

I'm all good with you guys, but remember some members here can be more sensitive.


Getting back to Win10 again and trying to stay on topic, any of you guys checked your reliability history in Action Centre?
I have a few errors in the chart ie critical events with OHub.exe and Get Office .

No crashes however while actually using Win10.