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destrekor

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I learned a long time ago to install my software and store my files on a drive other than the OS/boot drive. I"ve got the clean install routine down to a science and can have it up and running with all of my programs in about 4 hours. I don't clone anymore as I';d rather clean install everything from scratch so I don't build again on the possibility that there was an error buried in the other install.

I'd argue that it doesn't much matter where you have your programs installed. When you clean install, you have to rebuild the registry for installations anyway, so all that extra program directory is doing is sitting there filled up, looking pretty.

Now, I do agree it can make it a little easier, because many games and programs will recognize that data is already in the targeted install directory, and instead try to determine the state of said directory and patch it up how it sees fit, as opposed to performing a whole new install or downloading all the data again. It'll re-register the program in the registry and get things flowing again.

Why I say it doesn't much matter, is because you can save those directories before a reset, so it doesn't much matter. I have most of my installs on my OS SSD, so I backup and move directories back over once needed.
 

Puffnstuff

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When things fail unexpectedly you can be SOL when you've not already prepared for the possibility. By keeping my files on a separate drive they are unaffected by any sudden loss of the boot drive which I've experienced repeatedly running ssd's. I keep redundant backups of my critical data such as word docs, spreadsheets etc. so I can have access regardless of which method of storage contains the files should it fail.
 

destrekor

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When things fail unexpectedly you can be SOL when you've not already prepared for the possibility. By keeping my files on a separate drive they are unaffected by any sudden loss of the boot drive which I've experienced repeatedly running ssd's. I keep redundant backups of my critical data such as word docs, spreadsheets etc. so I can have access regardless of which method of storage contains the files should it fail.

I didn't even address documents.

I agree - all of mine are on a platter drive.

And I use bvckup2 to do file-level backups of my SSD and of my document storage directory. It's on the same drive as all my other downloads. And stuff I deem fine to put in the cloud are also on OneDrive, with a synced folder within my document directory.

And I do the occasional drive image backup, of which will turn into a better image and incremental/differential backup schedule once I get a good NAS which will also perform DVR and Plex server duties, likely among other things.
 

TeknoBug

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I have a little bit of a concern, it didn't occur to me until this morning, I handle sensitive documents for work that I only transfer via an encrypted USB stick when needed, I refuse to upload them onto the internet which would compromise the chances of them being hacked into or stolen. I have no idea how safe they are on Windows 10, work PC still runs Windows XP with a few Windows 7 (Enterprise) because of the software made for them (same reason why the US Navy sticks with Win XP). For now I use my Intel NUC with Win 7 on it for that.
 

Ramses

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When things fail unexpectedly you can be SOL when you've not already prepared for the possibility. By keeping my files on a separate drive they are unaffected by any sudden loss of the boot drive which I've experienced repeatedly running ssd's. I keep redundant backups of my critical data such as word docs, spreadsheets etc. so I can have access regardless of which method of storage contains the files should it fail.

I keep all that small stuff in the cloud these days, in two different clouds, and sync'd to my NAS. Very little actually ON my PC anymore other than games, OS files and actual program-running files. My photo's from various devices all sync that way as well, other than random stuff on my desktop I have less need now for traditional backup than I ever did. I still do it, again to the cloud with crashplan and an image to an external usb drive, but much like this failure with 10 I had yesterday, it wasn't worth the effort to re-image or "restore", Windows handled the refresh/reset perfectly.
 

Puffnstuff

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I also back up to cloud storage, 4 different services, an external hd and bdrw's just to make sure that my most important files don't get lost. I plan to clean install 10 myself to get rid of this upgrade in place install that does work but I don't want any stray 8.1 entries in the registry affecting performance.
 

vinceapp

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Most of what I've heard about 10074 has been positive from those that can actually get it running. It may not be accurate to assume that the update/upgrade headaches are solely the fault of the new build. Cruft from old builds - corrupt/faulty Windows Update caches, funky drivers, etc - may be making it increasingly difficult to keep these Win10 installs running that have been in the upgrade cycle for months.

For my part, I tried an in-place installation from the 10074 iso. The first one failed, though this time it got all the way through the second stage of the updater before rebooting, only to boot to a black screen (monitor had a signal, it was just . . . black). I have Win10 set up to give me a bootloader, so when I manually restarted the machine after the failed upgrade, it gave me three boot options:

Windows preview
Setup
Windows preview

So I picked Setup, and it rolled me back to 10049. Then it told me I had some problem with a MIGRATE operation (all caps, I don't have the exact error message in front of me). I did look up the message, and it appears to be related to a driver problem.

So I tried again, same problem, black screen in the third part of the installation/upgrade process. This time, I selected the first Windows preview option in the bootloader, and . . . success! 10074 finished installation. Immediately after I booted into Win10 for the first time, AMD QuickStream popped up like it always does and informed me that it needed to be reinstalled, so I did, and then rebooted, and . . . now it won't boot except in safe mode. Trying sfc /scannow (which mercifully will run this time, up yours Windows Resource Protection! I win this round!).

It may be that Catalyst 15.2 from 4/1 is the reason why all those updates to 10061 and 10074 failed in the first place.

edit: Yup, it was the latest 15.2 driver. Uninstalling 15.2 AND QuickStream got 10074 to boot. It works. Now I just have to find a suitable video driver . . . I may re-try 15.2 without QuickStream to see if I can get that to work, since Windows Update is going to shove that driver down my throat constantly if I don't. Grr!

One of these days, MS is going to have to give us back configurable updates . . .

edit edit: Okay, 15.2 w/out QuickStream appears to work. For now. And all the desktop resolution problems I had with the 4/1 revision of 15.2 are gone, too, which is . . . interesting to say the least.

Maybe you do not have to uninstall QuickStream. You can try to download the latest release from the following link and reinstall it.

http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDQuickStreamTechnology.aspx
 

DrMrLordX

Lifer
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vinceapp, that post is from months ago. I am now running 15.7.1 without QuickStream and everything works just fine.
 

tvfreak

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Well, then, you should have directed your first response to contradict this statement in the article:

I'm running an older build but I need to see if it is doing this on my notebook.
So, when u upgrade to windows 10 supposedly your WiFi is being shared?
How can u confirm this if its being shared?
I'm a bit of a newb when it comes to these type of issues.
I haven't upgraded yet but I would like to know what's going when I do.
Thanks
 

Berryracer

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So, when u upgrade to windows 10 supposedly your WiFi is being shared?
How can u confirm this if its being shared?
I'm a bit of a newb when it comes to these type of issues.
I haven't upgraded yet but I would like to know what's going when I do.
Thanks
Just use O&O ShutUp10 to disable all the privacy evasion settings
 

Ichinisan

Lifer
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Thanks.
Damn I don't like the fact how win10 has access to everything like that.

Is there a way to do this manually so that I know how to do this for future reference.

It doesn't really matter if you disable it on your own PC. Your friends and family will neglect to opt-out. You'll have to change your SSID to one that tells Microsoft you don't want it to be shared with friends-of-friends -- that, or operate a guest network where your printer / Apple TV / Chromecast is not accessible to your friends and family
 

It's Not Lupus

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I uninstalled Windows 10 Home from my old ASUS laptop since battery life was cut in half (~4 hours from the usually ~9). I think it's because there were no hybrid graphics drivers available. I put back Windows 7 on it.

I have access to DreamSpark and acquired 10 Education. A just recent installation on my desktop seemed fine. I was worried about my ASUS (again) Xonar DG sound card and the drivers, but that was fine as well using the Windows 8 version. I did modified a dll file to skip the OS check (donotcare).

One thing I didn't think would be a problem is with the Education version. There's apparently a permanent watermark on the bottom right. I'll have to search on this more whether it's safe to remove.

This is mainly for school work and the latest games. I still got my tinfoil hat and Windows 7 on another SSD.

I'm interested testing the Windows To Go feature available on the Edu version.
 
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Ichinisan

Lifer
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WiFi Sense...

I meant to add "_optout" to my SSID before Win10 was released to the public and never got around to it until just now. Unfortunately, my Apple AirPort Extreme 6th gen 802.11ac won't let me use "XXXX-aperture-enrichment-ctr_optout" as my SSID because it's too long (or it's a limitation of the AirPort Utility iOS app). Had to change it to "XXXX_optout" instead.

/FWP
 

zod96

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What is with the 80's looking desktop icons in windows 10? They look like they are from windows 3.1 or something. To me windows 10 looks far far worse then windows 8 or 7...
 

Ketchup

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Sep 1, 2002
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It does give off a minimalist vibe, but it doesn't really look '80s to me.

I had been thinking about this, as I didn't care for it since before final release. My feeling has become that they are trying to deter people from using them. Just like pinning inactive icons in the start menu (rather than the live tiles MS offers) look out of place.
 

PC_

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not a big fan, don't like the whole lets dumb it down for all the computer illiterate people out there.
 

quikah

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Apr 7, 2003
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not a big fan, don't like the whole lets dumb it down for all the computer illiterate people out there.

Open start and type powershell. You now have access to the most powerful interactive shell in existence (maybe a slight exaggeration ). Open the ISE if you want some nice GUI features.
 

RampantAndroid

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It doesn't really matter if you disable it on your own PC. Your friends and family will neglect to opt-out. You'll have to change your SSID to one that tells Microsoft you don't want it to be shared with friends-of-friends -- that, or operate a guest network where your printer / Apple TV / Chromecast is not accessible to your friends and family

Your friends ALSO must select to share it AT THE TIME THEY LOG IN - they cannot log in and then later share it (at least, not unless they have your passphrase.)

Stupid feature...
 
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