So how are you liking Win10 so far?

[DrMrLordX]

Hi guys anybody knows what is this Korean Media Player showing on the Desktop after update to Build 10049?

I found this;

microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/insider_wintp-insider_install/flashing-desktop-korean-media-player-center/992d4db3-65c1-47fe-afcb-f00d3b604993

That URL is no good at the moment.

I too had the Korean Media Player info link (also had one for Messenger) on my desktop after updating to 10049. Not sure what that's all about though.

 

[FrankRamiro]

That URL is no good at the moment.

I too had the Korean Media Player info link (also had one for Messenger) on my desktop after updating to 10049. Not sure what that's all about though.

microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/insider_wintp-insider_install/flashing-desktop-korean-media-player-center/992d4db3-65c1-47fe-afcb-f00d3b604993


http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...op-icons/a0bacf96-434f-4f46-a1ad-a299b8498dbc


For those that got these apps on the desktop,deleting them is not enough,we have to clear files too,Right click on the shortcuts in the "start" / "all apps" menu and select "open file location" and delete

 

[ArisVer]

I just cannot get the to install in UEFI.

Whether on an existing HDD or an empty, brand-spanking empty one, he' create his 4-5 partitions and then say that the EFI partition is NTFS formatted but needs FAT32.

Have tried to change that with DISKPART, but get the error along "Partition too small to format in FAT32".

Ideas? Need UEFI to match my existing 8.1 install for dual boot.

What did you use for installation? DVD or USB Drive?

Read this tutorial:
http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/2376-usb-flash-drive-create-install-windows-10-a.html

 

[ArisVer]

Posting from Build 10041 after 30 minutes of installation on my notebook, dual boot with Windows 8.1 on the same disk. First time on real hardware. Everything went smooth so far.


Edit.
I have connected a second monitor to the VGA port and I have no signal. Anyone else experiencing the same problem?

Edit2. External monitor issue fixed.

 

[CZroe]

More Spartan complaints:
There is no option to open recently closed tab when right-clicking in the tab area. I happen to know the keyboard shortcut, CTRL+SHIFT+T, but the option should still be in the logical place for those who don't know.

Closing lid silences audio playback in the browser. Why do I need to burn my backlight/battery to listen to music?! I have the lid sensor option set to "Do Nothing." Silencing it is certainly not "nothing," so Spartan is ignoring my operating system setting and taking it upon itself to override the user's preference.

Tabs often provides no indication that it is loading or waiting to load, especially in HDD systems with low memory. For example, my old M11x r3 notebook has a 1TB HDD and 4GB memory. Just while writing this post I needed to see if the lid closing paused the video or simply silenced it, so I opened YouTube and clicked a video on the main page. It took me to some other list of videos where it seemed like nothing happens when I click one. I opened one in a new tab and the new tab said "Blank Page" instead of the URL or some indication that it was waiting or not yet attempting to load. Even if it was forced to wait for another operation to complete, I should not see "Blank Page." I should see SOME indication that it will attempt to load the page I requested. Eventually, the previous tab and the Blank Page tab loaded and started playing videos despite no indication that it intended to while the rest of the browser tabs and such remained accessible.

After setting my home page to "Blank," I frequently find that I can no longer initiate Bing searches from the address bar. Enter just doesn't do anything. It may be related to the "no indication of loading" problem, but I've waited a long time.

Spartan loses your search terms typed into the address bar when switching tabs. This is bad because you may open a new tab to search for something relevant to content in another tab, but switching between them to finish adding search terms causes you to lose the ones you already had.

 

[CZroe]

More than once now I have had my pointer freeze for a minute even though I could still navigate with the keyboard just fine. It did it again and I realized that it would let me move it as long as I clicked using the physical button and held it down but it would freeze again as soon as I let go. Dragging whatever you happen to be over does not seem like a useful work-around. It's probably related to the same issue that makes everything minimize when I tap to click even though I was not tapping that corner (it seems to happen in similar situations).

 

[Ichinisan]

CZroe, have you used the "Feedback" app?

 

[CZroe]

CZroe, have you used the "Feedback" app?

Yes, but I'm collecting my experiences here as well.

 

[CZroe]

The system tray is more F'd up than ever. First, the new white/clear system icons are invisible when added to the hidden menu because of their color. Yes, this is why I had no speaker volume or Windows Defender icon. Also, the Windows Defender icon isn't even a system icon but there's no way to entirely opt out of it. I either have to have a broken/invisible icon glitching up my menu of hidden tray icons or a space-wasting icon in my tray area. Ugh. It's so useless I can't imagine why it exists in the first place. Left or right click, the only option is "Open." Useless.

The Network/WiFi tray icon doesn't have this problem because it is made with black, white, and clear.

I mentioned this before: The "Action Center," which confusingly calls itself "Notifications" when you click it, always turns solid at boot and says "New Notifications" but says "No new notifications" and returns to clear when I check.

The reason it took me so long to figure this out is that managing the hidden tray icons is now stupidly unintuitive. You can no longer right-click on the arrow or the taskbar to customize it. As far as I can tell, there's no shortcut directly there. If you are on a laptop where you can right-click on the battery icon to choose "Turn system icons on and off," which is not the same as managing the hidden tray applications, but at least there's a way to get to it from that. Tying either of these functions to the battery icon makes no sense. I have to dig around the control panel if I disable my battery indicator. Freakin' stupid.

Speaking of "Turn system icons on and off," well, where's the option to turn Defender's useless icon off?! Defender integration has not progressed in years. It's feels as tacked-on as ever. I remember having trouble with some UI design quirk (didn't conform to Windows' own UI design guidelines) back when they first bought the product. It didn't take long to discover a NEW UI keyboard navigation quirk where I can repeatedly crash Defender:
Launch the Defender UI
Use Shift + Tab until the tab at the top takes focus.
Use Right Arrow to move to the History tab.
Tab down to give focus to the radio buttons.
Shift + Tab and you will notice focus disappear even though the tab will not appear to have focus.
Press Left Arrow twice to switch tabs.
Application will crash.

 

[escrow4]

If this is supposed to come out this year in a few months the UI design team should be fired.

 

[VirtualLarry]

If this is supposed to come out this year in a few months the UI design team should be fired.

I agree!

 

[denis280]

I agree!

Same here

 

[DrMrLordX]

So uh, sorry if this question has been covered already, but my Windows.old directory is getting quite large on my Win10 install. I haven't tracked its growth, but it's up over 23 gigs now. Is it safe to delete assuming I won't be reverting to a previous version?

 

[Ketchup]

The Cleanup application can actually do this.

 

[bbhaag]

To expand on what ketchup79 mentioned. Right click on your C: drive and select properties. Click on disk clean up and let it scan your C: drive. When it is done click on Clean up system files.
You should be able to delete the windows.old files. Make sure you scroll through the list and check the box.

 

[CZroe]

For some reason the "Apply" button doesn't work when I make changes on the Enhancements tab on the Speakers / Headphones Properties dialog. Might not be a Win10 thing though.

 

[jdubs03]

I downloaded 10056 as a clean install. It has a lot more to it compared to 10049-51, added personalization features which are helpful (but colors freezes). it's starting to piece together better, there are a lot of moving parts going on, so features leaving and returning doesn't surprise me.

the customize taskbar not being there is a bit worrying, i didn't check for that on 10056 so i can't comment on that. but overall, there is a significant improvement over previous builds.

winbeta has a good recap of the features, and the consumer preview is supposedly to be released at BUILD at the end of april.

 

[DrMrLordX]

The Cleanup application can actually do this.

To expand on what ketchup79 mentioned. Right click on your C: drive and select properties. Click on disk clean up and let it scan your C: drive. When it is done click on Clean up system files.
You should be able to delete the windows.old files. Make sure you scroll through the list and check the box.

Yeah it worked. I get the impression that I could have just nuked the directory "by hand" but at least now the Disk Cleanup widget is "aware" of what I've done. ~23 gigs returned, woohoo.

 

[Ketchup]

Yeah it worked. I get the impression that I could have just nuked the directory "by hand" but at least now the Disk Cleanup widget is "aware" of what I've done. ~23 gigs returned, woohoo.

With the phase 10 is at currently, it probably would be fun to just use the "delete" button on the folder and see if the result is any different.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

I'm still holding off and reading you guys

Ditto to MongGrel's (much earlier) post.

I remember my personal experience with a "history:" MS-DOS1.x, MS-DOS2.x; [abjured the earliest Windows releases]; Windows 3.0, Windows 3.1; Windows 95, Windows 98; Win NT 4.0, Windows 2000 Pro.

Up to that point, I jumped on every bandwagon early, with the bracketed exception. Too early, because I remember the hassles with drives and drivers for the pre-SP releases. After that, I waited at least 3 years into the life-cycle to upgrade everything to XP Pro. I flirted with VISTA-64 once the first SP was available; and I also waited for SP1 for Win 7.

Now it looks like "I'm the MAN" for the Household LAN. 4 workstations, 1 wireless laptop and a server. And I'm determined: Nobody gets on or off the bus unless we all go together. There might be a loose-joint between workstation and server upgrades, but I even contemplate a comprehensive approach to both.

I can see I have about 2 days before I can no longer get the pre-release Win 10 download, or I would have to wait until later this year.

Big deal. Maybe I'll keep apprised on threads like this, but I'll wait until they release the first service pack.

UPDATE: Voracious reader as I am (or once was), I can't keep up with everything. So this is encouraging:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2873...a-free-upgrade-for-windows-7-and-8-users.html

That's a far cry from budgeting between $300 and $400 for a 3-pack (or more) of OEM install discs. But I'm trying to figure out how I can do it on a selective basis and still get the free upgrade across the board.

Is there any consensus at all that reasons to wait before "SP 1" have evaporated from new releases of M$ OS's?

 

[AznAnarchy99]

New update seems to have broke my AD tools and OpenVPN.

 

[Underclocked]

10056 clean install screwed up my testing hard drive so badly that even Windows 8.1 Pro would not boot properly (completely separate boot loader). Windows 10 is no longer on my machine and won't be until the next properly released build. You would think these increasing build numbers would reflect an increasingly reliable build - but that is NOT the case.

 

[DrMrLordX]

With the phase 10 is at currently, it probably would be fun to just use the "delete" button on the folder and see if the result is any different.

Hmm could be amusing. Maybe that's something to try after 10056 is officially released as an upgrade.

10056 clean install screwed up my testing hard drive so badly that even Windows 8.1 Pro would not boot properly (completely separate boot loader). Windows 10 is no longer on my machine and won't be until the next properly released build. You would think these increasing build numbers would reflect an increasingly reliable build - but that is NOT the case.

It is a leak, after all. Did you get your .iso from a relatively-reputable source?

 

[CZroe]

More from Build 10049:
A few times now I have had a very strange focus problem where my mouse will only interact with the Taskbar. It forces me to take drastic measures, like restarting.

For example, I launched Chrome and clicked one of the thumbnails to load a recent page. The entire Chrome window lost focus, though it appeared to simply be unresponsive. I could click all I wanted to but the only way to interact with it was to Alt+Tab back to it and then use the keyboard. You couldn't click the close button either. I realized that it was a focus issue when. I right-clicked the Taskbar and brought up the Task Manager but was unable to click on the performance tab. Sure enough, I managed to open a new tab in the "unresponsive" Chrome window by right-clicking the pinned Chrome icon and adding a pinned tab, but I couldn't interact with that tab using the mouse either. I could close and open Chrome by using the pinned icon and could even open new windows but still could not interact after clicking. When I finally decided to restart, I clicked my Start menu and found that I could not click the power options or anything else in the menu. It lost focus too apparently so I had to hit the windows key twice and navigate by keyboard. I couldn't even ALT + F4 to shut down because I couldn't give anything other than the Taskbar focus.

Something tells me that this is related to that new multiple desktops feature that I have not explored yet. I think my clicks are being sent to the wrong one or something.

The Windows Store formatting is totally screwed on this system (M11x r3, 1366x768). In full screen the search field is entirely off the screen with only just enough to use it when it's in a window.

 

[razel]

@CZroe... might be a good idea if you used the Windows Feedback instead of Anandtech forums for issues you find with an OS in a alpha state. There's nothing that we can do but agree that it happened to you.