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ithehappy

Senior member
Oct 13, 2013
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I think I have asked this before, and probably it is answered too, but I didn't notice any reply, so asking again, how do I go in to My Computer? Win+E doesn't work. I mean where I can straight see all my hard drive partitions, not anything else, like a dumbarse File Explorer.
Another question, is there any app in Windows Store which will give me back the old Windows Photo Viewer? Cause this new one doesn't allow mouse's scroll wheel to zoom in/out of photos, I am dumb and I liked the old one better. Anything?

Thanks in advance.

PS: I am still on Windows 10, and have not gone back Windows 7. I think this is the first time Gandhi might like me, for being so dumb.
 

CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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I think I have asked this before, and probably it is answered too, but I didn't notice any reply, so asking again, how do I go in to My Computer? Win+E doesn't work. I mean where I can straight see all my hard drive partitions, not anything else, like a dumbarse File Explorer.
Another question, is there any app in Windows Store which will give me back the old Windows Photo Viewer? Cause this new one doesn't allow mouse's scroll wheel to zoom in/out of photos, I am dumb and I liked the old one better. Anything?

Thanks in advance.

PS: I am still on Windows 10, and have not gone back Windows 7. I think this is the first time Gandhi might like me, for being so dumb.


I've seen Computer on the left when I Win+E but it was seriously downplayed until I pinned it and removed a bunch of the other default pinnings.

You can probably hold CTRL + Mouse wheel to zoom in/out like in Office or web browsers.
 

Ketchup

Elite Member
Sep 1, 2002
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In personalization you can still set windows photo viewer as default. In here you can also select what icons you want on tge desktop, including the My Computer icon. You can also choose the file explorer icon in the Star Menu to access my computer from the left-hand side and view the same thing.
 

RampantAndroid

Diamond Member
Jun 27, 2004
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In personalization you can still set windows photo viewer as default. In here you can also select what icons you want on tge desktop, including the My Computer icon. You can also choose the file explorer icon in the Star Menu to access my computer from the left-hand side and view the same thing.

I didn't find it there. I found it by adding this to the registry:

Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\open]
"MuiVerb"="@photoviewer.dll,-3043"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\open\command]
@=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,00,25,\
00,5c,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,72,00,75,00,\
6e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,20,00,22,00,25,\
00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,67,00,72,00,61,00,6d,00,46,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,73,00,\
25,00,5c,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,20,00,50,00,68,00,6f,\
00,74,00,6f,00,20,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,65,00,72,00,5c,00,50,00,68,00,\
6f,00,74,00,6f,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,65,00,72,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,\
00,22,00,2c,00,20,00,49,00,6d,00,61,00,67,00,65,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,\
5f,00,46,00,75,00,6c,00,6c,00,73,00,63,00,72,00,65,00,65,00,6e,00,20,00,25,\
00,31,00,00,00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\open\DropTarget]
"Clsid"="{FFE2A43C-56B9-4bf5-9A79-CC6D4285608A}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\print]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\print\command]
@=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,00,25,\
00,5c,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,72,00,75,00,\
6e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,20,00,22,00,25,\
00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,67,00,72,00,61,00,6d,00,46,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,73,00,\
25,00,5c,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,20,00,50,00,68,00,6f,\
00,74,00,6f,00,20,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,65,00,72,00,5c,00,50,00,68,00,\
6f,00,74,00,6f,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,65,00,72,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,\
00,22,00,2c,00,20,00,49,00,6d,00,61,00,67,00,65,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,\
5f,00,46,00,75,00,6c,00,6c,00,73,00,63,00,72,00,65,00,65,00,6e,00,20,00,25,\
00,31,00,00,00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\print\DropTarget]
"Clsid"="{60fd46de-f830-4894-a628-6fa81bc0190d}"

Then doing "open with" and selecting the old photo viewer. The new one would be fine if the mouse back/forward worked.
 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
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Hmm. I have only seen a long alphabetical list in the screens I've seen.

I can't check on W10 but on W8.1 you have to restart the computer for the new folders to (semi-)show up.

No Microsoft folders whatsoever?

Granted, so far I only performed an upgrade on a laptop that already had Windows 8 installed, so some folders were present. It is better than Windows 8 because now folders show up where they should in the alphabet; prior to 10, all singular apps showed up before any folders. Now, a folder named, say, Asus, shows up with any singular apps that start with A... not after all single apps and grouped alphabetically with all folders.

I can say I definitely restarted the laptop to see if anything showed up, but nothing changed. It could be a permissions thing. Not sure if apps that have a proclivity to create a folder of multiple apps will continue to create folders or not, but I strongly suspect they will. Which makes it curious why apps you create yourself do not show up.
 

Obsy

Senior member
Apr 28, 2009
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10 hasn't been so good for me. Overall responsiveness is down as if I changed to a much slower SSD, or as if my CPU was inadequate. Chrome/Edge are also more glitchy and crash more often. I did do a clean install.

The only major difference I seem to have with your guys' computers is that my Pentium G3258 only has two logical cores, albeit overclocked to 4.2 GHz. I'd be sad if I had to do a CPU upgrade when 7/8.1 were perfectly responsive for me.
 

Scooby Doo

Golden Member
Sep 1, 2006
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Well right now Edge isn't even worth using... seriously you have to regedit to change the default download folder?? The start menu.... ehhh it's ok played with it a bit then installed Classic Start. The rest so far has been good
 

Derpp

Junior Member
Jul 30, 2015
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I'm also enjoying windows 10 overall minus a few minor launch day bugs here and there.

The only thing that upsets me are the automatic driver updates. I can live with automatic OS updates, but forcing driver updates as well is just ridiculous and asking for trouble down the road.

Also, I seem to have come across a rather ridiculous bug with windows photo viewer. It's not DPI-aware! On my 3200 x 1800 display, the UI is blurry, and entering slideshow mode displays pictures at 250x zoom. You'd think that Microsoft with their huge push on high res would at least make all their default programs DPI-aware by now, but still, there's programs like skype, and now windows photo viewer that aren't. They should be ashamed.
 

Black Octagon

Golden Member
Dec 10, 2012
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I like it so far. No crashes, error messages, slow-downs or anything else.

Yes, some functionality still needs to be improved, especially in terms of how easy it is to access certain settings...but for these early days I'd say so far so good.
 

Eug

Lifer
Mar 11, 2000
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Windows 10 overall: I've only had it installed for a few hours, but OMG this is a humungous improvement in performance. Windows no longer feels so bloated and slow on this machine, which is 1.3 GHz Pentium SU4100 (which is essentially a small-cached 1.3 GHz Core 2 Duo) with 4 GB RAM and SSD. This 5 year-old machine is still slow, but Windows 7 felt much slower. It's like this machine got a CPU and RAM upgrade. It also boots up much faster. I'll have to install Windows 10 on my dual-core Atom nettop immediately.

Also, the disk usage is much, much smaller. I only have 96 GB for my SSD in this machine, so the savings is great. With my applications, after disk cleanup, Windows 7 with updates was using about 41 GB. With Windows 10 it's 34 GB (after I deleted Windows.old using Disk Cleanup). That's a savings of 7 GB. Impressive.

Note though several of my applications aren't supported, so I may as well delete those to save some more space. This also means I can't install Windows 10 on my primary desktop, because one thing that doesn't work is my VPN for my workplace.

Also, some video that plays in Windows Media Player doesn't play in Window 10's media player. Luckily Windows Media Player is still present in Windows 10. What about stuff like Haali Media Splitter?

I never installed Windows 8 on this machine, but of the little bit of Win 8/8.1 I used, I really didn't like it much. Windows 10 is a much better UI design IMO, although currently it is still a rough around the edges. For example, accessing networked video streams from the NAS can cause stuff to hang. To play these I'm better off downloading it the computer then playing.

I'm also pleasantly surprised the unique Win 7 drivers for this laptop - like the on-screen display for custom buttons - still work. These are OEM and laptop specific micro-apps that do things like show volume up/down, Bluetooth on/off, etc., overlaid on top of Windows for a few seconds when you adjust the settings.

Edge: The menu bars are unnecessarily big. Is it not possible to auto-hide the tabs bar if I'm only using one tab? I also don't need an address bar that is so tall. It'd be nice to be able to shrink it by one-third. The default zoom of 125% makes for nice easy-to-read font sizes on this 11.6" 1366x768 screen. Unfortunately, that means the width of the AnandTech forums won't fit. Have to scroll sideways. 100% zoom makes for font sizes that are too small though.
 
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CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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Windows 10 overall: I've only had it installed for a few hours, but OMG this is a humungous improvement in performance. Windows no longer feels so bloated and slow on this machine, which is 1.3 GHz Pentium SU4100 (which is essentially a small-cached 1.3 GHz Core 2 Duo) with 4 GB RAM and SSD. This 5 year-old machine is still slow, but Windows 7 felt much slower. It's like this machine got a CPU and RAM upgrade. It also boots up much faster. I'll have to install Windows 10 on my dual-core Atom nettop immediately.

...

I'm also pleasantly surprised the unique Win 7 drivers for this laptop - like the on-screen display for custom buttons - still work. These are OEM and laptop specific micro-apps that do things like show volume up/down, Bluetooth on/off, etc., overlaid on top of Windows for a few seconds when you adjust the settings.

Edge: The menu bars are unnecessarily big. Is it not possible to auto-hide the tabs bar if I'm only using one tab? I also don't need an address bar that is so tall. It'd be nice to be able to shrink it by one-third. The default zoom of 125% makes for nice easy-to-read font sizes on this 11.6" 1366x768 screen. Unfortunately, that means the width of the AnandTech forums won't fit. Have to scroll sideways. 100% zoom makes for font sizes that are too small though.

These three paragraphs tell me you are likely running this on an Alienware M11X R1. Am I right?
 

lazybedone

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I've already seen how Windows 10 goes and I have decided not to change my Windows 7. It doesn't give an attraction to me at all. so I'll stick with what I am used to and what is easy to use.
 

Anubis

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Aug 31, 2001
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Well right now Edge isn't even worth using... seriously you have to regedit to change the default download folder??

LOL that explains why I couldn't find it when I went looking for the option

I only played with it for like 10 min to see how it was and it annoyed me so much in the 10 min ill prob never use it again

back to Opera/Pale Moon
 

Anubis

No Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
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I think I have asked this before, and probably it is answered too, but I didn't notice any reply, so asking again, how do I go in to My Computer? Win+E doesn't work. I mean where I can straight see all my hard drive partitions, not anything else, like a dumbarse File Explorer.
Another question, is there any app in Windows Store which will give me back the old Windows Photo Viewer? Cause this new one doesn't allow mouse's scroll wheel to zoom in/out of photos, I am dumb and I liked the old one better. Anything?

Thanks in advance.

PS: I am still on Windows 10, and have not gone back Windows 7. I think this is the first time Gandhi might like me, for being so dumb.


you can change the default to where Win+E takes you, there's an option to make it do what you want, I'm at work and cant remember where it is but its there
 

Eug

Lifer
Mar 11, 2000
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So, Edge with Netflix dispenses with Silverlight. This is well known, but nice to see anyway.

Firefox uses Silverlight though still. Netflix tells me the browser is too old to work (?) but works anyway, with Silverlight.

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When the window server (or whatever it is called) crashes (when I try to view an unsupported video over the network), it relaunches but fails to reload the add-ons.

One of those add-ons is the Synaptics touchpad driver, which allows me to use two-finger scrolling. Annoying.

The good news though is if I don't try to do such iffy streaming, everything works fine otherwise, and the Synaptics driver feels much smoother for scrolling in Win 10. They must have updated the driver or something.

These three paragraphs tell me you are likely running this on an Alienware M11X R1. Am I right?

No. It's an Acer Aspire 1810TZ. It is in my sig.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Acer-Aspire-Timeline-1810TZ-Subnotebook.21322.0.html

It's not a true Core 2 Duo 1.3 GHz like the Alienware, but a Pentium SU4100 1.3 GHz. Very similar but it has a smaller cache. The Pentium SU4100 has 2 MB L2. The Core 2 Duo has 3 MB.

http://ark.intel.com/products/43568/Intel-Pentium-Processor-SU4100-2M-Cache-1_30-GHz-800-MHz-FSB

http://ark.intel.com/products/42791/Intel-Core2-Duo-Processor-SU7300-3M-Cache-1_30-GHz-800-MHz-FSB

The on-board GPU is the same though, the Intel GMA4500MHD, but the Alienware comes with a second GPU. The good thing is this on-board GPU supports hardware H.264 decode, which is why I bought this machine.

BTW, I got this thing almost 5 years ago on closeout for under CAD$400. I then put in an aftermarket spare SSD I had, added memory, and I swapped in a US keyboard to replace the irritating multilingual keyboard it came with, to make it more tolerable with Win 7. Not a bad deal, considering with Windows 10 it's going strong again in 2015. The screen is pretty low end, but for that price I couldn't complain. It was my answer to a netbook, but not a netbook, as it has a proper CPU, a proper OS, and a full-sized keyboard.
 
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WaTaGuMp

Lifer
May 10, 2001
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How are people handling drivers? I was looking at MSI's website and I don't see W10 drivers.
 

Anubis

No Lifer
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the 2 comps I updated didn't need any fancy drivers. both went from 7-10 and I just updated the NVidia graphic driver after the fact and all was fine

I have not done my main comp yet because, I want to make sure all the potential issues are ironed out first
 

WaTaGuMp

Lifer
May 10, 2001
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the 2 comps I updated didn't need any fancy drivers. both went from 7-10 and I just updated the NVidia graphic driver after the fact and all was fine

I have not done my main comp yet because, I want to make sure all the potential issues are ironed out first

Have you done it that way doing a format and fresh install? That is really my concern over just doing the upgrade.
 

Eug

Lifer
Mar 11, 2000
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How are people handling drivers? I was looking at MSI's website and I don't see W10 drivers.

None of my Windows machines have Win 10 drivers for anything on the Acer site. Hell, they don't even have Windows 8 drivers. Nonetheless, based on claims that most Win 7 drivers should work, I just went ahead and upgraded this laptop anyway, and it works just fine.

Some drivers (like for video) were updated automatically. Some drivers are the original, but it Just Works. Mine was an upgrade. I don't think you can do a fresh install for free the first time around.

I have to applaud MS this time around. It's a pretty impressive feat... although arguably Windows 8 and 8.1 should never have happened in the first place. Win 10 is what Win 8 should have been IMO.

I too won't upgrade my primary Windows machine yet though, since it's too early for a work machine IMO, and I already know my VPN software doesn't work with Win 10. I just hope my IT department starts supporting the Win 10 version immediately when it comes out. My IT department never bothered releasing a usable version for Windows 8 or 8.1. It was either XP or 7, or else nothing. This time though there is that 1 year deadline. I don't want to miss out on my free Win 10 upgrade but I can wait several months on that machine.
 
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