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Berryracer

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I never had any problems doing that in Windows 7. And even in a worst case scenario (which never happened), I can just reinstall Windows. Its MY decision to choose not to use this. I don't want some blanket with no context "security" feature interrupting my PC usage. I know which types of programs are shady and shouldn't be installed and these are features to protect people who don't have enough sense to know better. I'm not one of those people. UAC is just another "security" feature designed to hold people's hands.

As it turns out, setting UAC to "never notify" doesn't disable it entirely.

Edit:

This is for anyone else who views UAC as nothing more than a minor annoyance to keep noobies from making their OS FUBAR.

So, just open regedit from Run and locate this key.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System

In the right pane look for EnableLUA and modify its value to 0. Close regedit.



It looks like I'm going to have to embrace the registry as the only way to remove some of these bullshit windows 10 features. I already canned "one drive", and decapitating Cortana is next on my list of OS butchery =D.
When I did that in Windows 8 back then, a lot of programs either didn't install correctly or didn't launch correctly. From then on I never mess with UAC.
 

Ichinisan

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How and why did u can one drive? I don't know what that is.

OneDrive is free online cloud storage from Microsoft that synchronizes to all of your machines. It compets with Dropbox / Google Drive / iCloud Drive / etc.

Formerly known as: Windows SkyDrive, Windows Live Drive
 

SparkyJJO

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If you're using a local account on your PC then it isn't active by default. You'd have to log into it first. I went the extra step and closed it from my system tray, telling it to not run automatically at startup since there was no point for it to. Done.

No butchery required.
 

Underclocked

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Those of you that have recently fully updated Windows 7, do me the favor of checking the size of your CBS.log file in Windows\Logs\CBS. I've encountered two in the last couple of days that had HUGE CBS.log size.

PS: I know this is not directly related to Windows 10 but I was wondering if it might be due to the recent telemetry and windows 10 push updates.
 
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Puffnstuff

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After reading your posts on the cbs log I decided to check my own and found it to be 10.7mb is size.
 

tvfreak

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How about people with win 8.1pro that upgraded to win10?
I haven't yet updated cause I want to wait if there will be bugs of any kind.

Also when I decide to update to win10 will you loose are your stuff? Meaning I assume I would need to back all my stuff.
I assume its like completely installing new software.
 

ArisVer

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When I did that in Windows 8 back then, a lot of programs either didn't install correctly or didn't launch correctly. From then on I never mess with UAC.

Same registry hack and same errors on Windows 8.1 here too so I returned it to normal.


Edit. CBS.log 1509KB on build 10532. I have been running Windows 10 since March (build 9926?) but I have not been using it much.
 
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Mem

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How about people with win 8.1pro that upgraded to win10?
I haven't yet updated cause I want to wait if there will be bugs of any kind.

Also when I decide to update to win10 will you loose are your stuff? Meaning I assume I would need to back all my stuff.
I assume its like completely installing new software.


I'm not sure what your exact question is?..I have done two Win8 Pro 64 upgrades to Win10 Pro x64 with no issues,it kept all my software/games etc.


I can only speak for myself but all my Steam,Origin games etc work fine, software wise not had any issues and drivers are all solid, so IMHO it's a polished release by Microsoft for a new Operating System.

As always Microsoft will continue to fix any issues they find in time just like they do with any Windows OS via updates etc, but end of the day I'm glad I upgraded both of my Win8.1 Pro's to 10, just remember I was also a happy 8.1 user as well with no issues.

I will say learning curve is very small from 8.1 to 10, sure some things are different but nothing hard to adjust to.

With regards to UAC I find it best to leave it as it is and not mess with it, it really is not annoying or gives you too many UAC pop-ups like Vista did in the old days, in fact it feels same as Win8.1, UAC wise to me.
 
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TeknoBug

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Yeah UAC is a lot less verbose these days, I absolutely hated it in Vista and for a while set it low in Win 7 after the Vista effect.
 

Chaosblade02

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I ran into issues with some apps not working, and also my screen saver didn't work when UAC was disabled in Windows 10. I have a hard time believing those apps technically require UAC, and MS just purposely created problems for people who disable the UAC.
 

SparkyJJO

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How about people with win 8.1pro that upgraded to win10?
I haven't yet updated cause I want to wait if there will be bugs of any kind.

Also when I decide to update to win10 will you loose are your stuff? Meaning I assume I would need to back all my stuff.
I assume its like completely installing new software.

I lost nothing. I just downloaded the Win10 drivers for my hardware, uninstalled old drivers, ran the upgrade to 10, installed the Win10 drivers. Done.

Do a backup anyway to be safe. You DO have backups already regardless, right? If not then you should!
 

MongGrel

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I went back to 10525 myself, the newer 10532 was giving me a few probs.

The standard version still running great on the HTPC.

I still generally try out the updates on insider on the main, but the last one screwed with my video a bit on the extended screens.

I'm sure I'll try out later ones.
 

Puffnstuff

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I think that I'm going to stick with the official release of 10 and leave the experimentation to others.
 

Chaosblade02

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Windows defender wouldn't update its definitions, I even tried manually installing them, and the solution for the windows defender problem was to just disable it completely, and then windows update stopped including the definitions in the update que. I had to download a specific program to disable windows defender in Windows 10. That's ridiculous. But the problem is solved.

This wouldn't have been worth mentioning if I could:

-Select which windows updates I want, and hide the ones I don't want.
-Completely disable windows defender from within its settings.

I want Windows 10 to be as customizable as Windows 7 is. I'm having to jump through way more hoops to customize Windows 10 than I did in Windows 7, and that pisses me off. MS better fix this shit. At the very least give Windows 10 pro users a more customizeable OS.

There are some extreme cases where people have to hack the registry just to disable a feature they could in 7 by just clicking a box. That leads me to believe some of the MS higher ups are a bunch of control freaks that think they have the right to tell people how their PCs should run by making it harder to personalize the OS. If this is a going trend, then in 20 years, almost nobody will be able to personalize their PC OS, and will have to take it to an IT professional. Lets make things as complicated as possible so certain people can justify their job positions. Maybe that's their end goal?
 
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crashtech

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If the above is true, I can see more power users turning to *nix and its endless permutations and customizability, but MS has always remained just responsive enough to the needs of more advanced users to keep a mass exodus from happening.
 

Underclocked

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There IS something about the initial update process that seems to drive Win10 a bit daffy. I did a clean install yesterday and had numerous weird hangs and freezes until Win10 became fully updated. I guess it's a good idea not to try to do anything else until those updates are installed.

And sfc /scannow showed no problems at all before the updates.
 

Chaosblade02

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If the above is true, I can see more power users turning to *nix and its endless permutations and customizability, but MS has always remained just responsive enough to the needs of more advanced users to keep a mass exodus from happening.

If Steam OS ever gains any traction and ends up being a great OS for gaming, then I wouldn't hesitate to make the switch. Or I'd dual boot and use Linux OS for non-gaming related tasks like surfing the web. I'd love more than anything to abandon MS right now. But unfortunately I'm not willing to make sacrifices to do it. I just need a viable alternative for my PC needs. I know I'm far from the only one who feels that way.
 

Ramses

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Like it or not this removing of options to deny updates or turn off defender is because of people that ought not to be doing such. I'm pretty sure the majority fall in that category, and it's a consumer OS after all. I don't like it anymore than anyone else, but I understand it. There are plenty of OS alternatives, maybe this will even drive some traffic their way. Desktop Linux is pretty comfy these days.
 

Chaosblade02

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Like it or not this removing of options to deny updates or turn off defender is because of people that ought not to be doing such.

I don't need MS holding my hand. Why should measures like that be taken with the pro version of windows which is a tier above the consumer grade home premium that's shipped with OEM rigs? MS has no excuse for the lack of features in the pro version. One attitude people have that pisses me off is the people who think they know whats better for you than you do. The way I see it, is they're not responsible for the risk, I am, and I choose whether or not to accept that risk for better or for worse, its MY choice. The risk could be minimal to non-existent depending on your PC habits. If you're the guy that goes clicking on every single add on the internet, every time a click here for free link pops up, you click it, download software from shady websites, etc, then you're damn right you need every possible security feature working on your PC. The best PC security is basic common sense. A software can't do that for you. Stupid is stupid regardless of how much security. A stupid person with the best security is still more vulnerable than a person who is smart that has no AV installed on their PC.
 
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JEDIYoda

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How about people with win 8.1pro that upgraded to win10?
I haven't yet updated cause I want to wait if there will be bugs of any kind.

Also when I decide to update to win10 will you loose are your stuff? Meaning I assume I would need to back all my stuff.
I assume its like completely installing new software.
There is no loss!! But common sense say you should always have a backup!
 

JEDIYoda

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I don't need MS holding my hand. Why should measures like that be taken with the pro version of windows which is a tier above the consumer grade home premium that's shipped with OEM rigs? MS has no excuse for the lack of features in the pro version. One attitude people have that pisses me off is the people who think they know whats better for you than you do. The way I see it, is they're not responsible for the risk, I am, and I choose whether or not to accept that risk for better or for worse, its MY choice. The risk could be minimal to non-existent depending on your PC habits. If you're the guy that goes clicking on every single add on the internet, every time a click here for free link pops up, you click it, download software from shady websites, etc, then you're damn right you need every possible security feature working on your PC. The best PC security is basic common sense. A software can't do that for you. Stupid is stupid regardless of how much security. A stupid person with the best security is still more vulnerable than a person who is smart that has no AV installed on their PC.
That`s nice!! You are one of the many exceptions! With that said there are a lot of idiots who do need to be led along!!
 

Ramses

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Yep, sure you'd be fine with total control, most of us would. We're the minority. Sucks being penalized for others shortcomings don't it. Teach em a lesson, go use Linux. Better yet, give em twenty bucks for it out of spite.
 
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