So I got a M.I.P.

[BudAshes]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Xanis
You're a tool. Take the punishment.

Why is he a tool?
Who the hell didn't have a beer or go to a party when they were 16?

*raises hand*

Never had a beer, never been drunk, and I've never been to a party where people were drunk.

"Control, control! You must have control!"

Are you 600 lbs stuck in your bed and mashing keys on an over sized novelty keyboard?

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: atybimf
Hmm, I'm going to be kicked off the tennis team I think. Damn.

It happened out here.
They canceled the girls basketball season since most members were drinking.

It doesn't go down easy and doesn't come up easy either.

Horrible wording.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Atheus
Never *ever* been to a party where people are drunk? how is that possible? Not even a work thing? Not even Christmas dinner at a friend's house?

Let's just say, I don't go out much, and I don't care for parties. I have been to dinner sorts of things at friends' houses, but they don't drink to excess. You know, maybe a wine or something, but of course, no wine for me. I find the taste and smell to be about as pleasant as that of isopropyl alcohol.

Originally posted by: BudAshes
Are you 600 lbs stuck in your bed and mashing keys on an over sized novelty keyboard?

Hah, opposite end of the spectrum. ~120lbs, technically a little underweight.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: atybimf
I'm 16 years old. I live in a middle of nowhere Missouri town. There isn't much to do other than get drunk. So I did at a huge party a couple nights ago. My friend was DD and he had 1 beer. There were 5 of us in the car in total. A long line of cars were leaving the party and we were driving fine but we ended up being the ones that got pulled over. The cops said we had a tail light out. At the time we didn't know but we just said ok. Long story short, the driver is given sobriety tests, passes 3 out of 4 but then we're all given breathalyzer tests. The driver blew a .021 (we would've been off if he had blown below .020..) and the rest of us blew .022, .08, .07, and a .151 for me. Then we're all cuffed, taken to jail, and then our parents came and picked us up.

Now I don't want to hear about how what I did was bad, or about how I had what was coming to me. I'm just wondering if it's possible to get our M.I.P's reversed because as it turns out the cops lied about the tail light. It's not out (nor was it).

Also, are all 5 of us going to have to get lawyers, or if just one or two of us do and we get off on the tail light thing, will we all get off?

You should not have taken the breathalyzer test

It doesn't matter...you can be charged with MIP without it. Not sure about his state, but it's only a violation here..just a fine. Not a big deal.

Originally posted by: OUCaptain
Wait a minute here. Regardless of what your BAL was, did you actually have any beer with you. MIP's are for getting caught with beer in the car or in your hand, not in your system. I'd attach from that angle. Or just pay the fine and move on. The cop was just doing some fund raising for his little town.

He possessed a quantity of alcohol internally, which is sufficient.

 

[benzylic]

Originally posted by: OUCaptain
Wait a minute here. Regardless of what your BAL was, did you actually have any beer with you. MIP's are for getting caught with beer in the car or in your hand, not in your system. I'd attach from that angle. Or just pay the fine and move on. The cop was just doing some fund raising for his little town.

Not in Missouri, you just have to have it in your system to get the MIP charge. Basically here they can pull you over if they even have a thought that you might have alcohol in your system.

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: atybimf
Hmm, I'm going to be kicked off the tennis team I think. Damn.

did you sign training rules? i can't say as i have sympathy for you if you broke those.

Thats how it was at my school, any student athelete had to sign a paper saying they wouldnt do drugs and alcohol. It didn't stop anyone but they still had to sign it.

Oh, and atybimf, join the club, where in Missouri are you at? I'm near the bootheel

 

[RKS]

While I don't think it is worth paying a lot money to fight it bacause it 'probably' won't have a big effect on the rest of your life; you could try to argue a lack of probable cause.

If the cops lied about the light being out then everything after the stop should be suppressed; however the cops can say a number of things to get over the need for probable cause:

they saw you leaving a large party that had minors and alcohol
they driver was weaving
they saw a occupant taking a drink/holding a can

Try to get a consultation with an attorney and ask how much trouble you can actually get in, and also inquire if the courts offer a diversion program instead of any type of juvenile 'record'.

*I am not licensed to practice law in Missouri just a lot of meaningless posts compiled over about 10 years so nothing in this mesage should be considered legal advice.*


BTW: I got caught buying beer when I was 15 and we just had to go to court and testify against the seller. Nothing was ever on my 'record'.

 

[atybimf]

Originally posted by: mxrider
Oh, and atybimf, join the club, where in Missouri are you at? I'm near the bootheel

I'm about 45mins NW of Columbia.

 

[Kadarin]

I think my BAC is still higher from last night than yours was.

You didn't do anything horribly wrong, other than just being a teenager and being in the wrong place at the wrong time, so I'd suggest ignoring the Taliban Nazis in this thread. I give you guys huge props for having a designated driver.

 

[TBone48]

Originally posted by: BudAshes

Are you 600 lbs stuck in your bed and mashing keys on an over sized novelty keyboard?

OMG, I that really cracked me up! :laugh:

 

[Eli]

Meh, do what you can but just roll with it.

You're 16.

 

[dbk]

Couldn't you have gone out and checked the taillight at the time?

 

[IAteYourMother]

See what you can do to get out of it, but don't try and fight it.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Xanis
You're a tool. Take the punishment.

Why is he a tool?
Who the hell didn't have a beer or go to a party when they were 16?

*raises hand*

Never had a beer, never been drunk, and I've never been to a party where people were drunk.

"Control, control! You must have control!"

How is that even possible? lol

 

[mugs]

You guys are are morons for having a designated driver who drank, AND who couldn't pass a field sobriety test with a .021 BAC. Even one beer for a DD is stupid when the BAC limit for minors is so low.

But if the cop did lie about the tail light being out, I hope the whole thing gets thrown out. He has no business stopping people for no reason. I got stopped once for driving too close to the yellow line. Asshole cop. :roll:

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Xanis
You're a tool. Take the punishment.

Why is he a tool?
Who the hell didn't have a beer or go to a party when they were 16?

*raises hand*

Never had a beer, never been drunk, and I've never been to a party where people were drunk.

"Control, control! You must have control!"

How is that even possible? lol

I live to astonish and amaze.
I don't care for the flavor of alcohol, nor do I wish to ingest anything that would compromise my discipline in any way. I've got enough funky brain chemicals that do screwy things to influence thought and judgment as it is.

The closest I get to being drunk is when I'm sleep deprived. Once I've been awake for about 20 hours straight, everything becomes funny; I'll generally laugh at the stupidest little things, but I can also get irritable.

 

[Skeeedunt]

Did the cop car have a dashboard cam? Seems like that would confirm or deny the taillight story. Dunno how you would approach that though, or how much good it would actually do you.

Mostly though this

Originally posted by: Eli
Meh, do what you can but just roll with it.

You're 16.

and this

Originally posted by: Kadarin
I give you guys huge props for having a designated driver.

 

[BudAshes]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Xanis
You're a tool. Take the punishment.

Why is he a tool?
Who the hell didn't have a beer or go to a party when they were 16?

*raises hand*

Never had a beer, never been drunk, and I've never been to a party where people were drunk.

"Control, control! You must have control!"

How is that even possible? lol

I live to astonish and amaze.
I don't care for the flavor of alcohol, nor do I wish to ingest anything that would compromise my discipline in any way. I've got enough funky brain chemicals that do screwy things to influence thought and judgment as it is.

The closest I get to being drunk is when I'm sleep deprived. Once I've been awake for about 20 hours straight, everything becomes funny; I'll generally laugh at the stupidest little things, but I can also get irritable.

You are from Pennsylvania, I bet you are Amish!

 

[Number1]

One of our young weighbour, 20, lost his driver license a last year for DUI so he got in with a drunk driver to go home after a party, JUST LIKE YOU.

He did not look very good in his coffin.


Sad realy, I got pics of the accident scene. There is a cross on the side of the road at that spot now.

Consider youself lucky.

 

[Farang]

Never take the sobriety tests. Never. Never ever ever. The cop usually doesn't administer it properly, so your chances of passing even when sober are around 70%. Not good odds when a DUI is on the line.

(the exceptions are the tests required by law such as the breathalyzer)

 

[andylawcc]

fruits of a poison tree. you may fight it off

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: Jeff7
I don't care for the flavor of alcohol, nor do I wish to ingest anything that would compromise my discipline in any way.

What do you need to stay so disciplined for? Are you a martial artist? Or maybe a monk or something? Just interested.

 

[clamum]

Originally posted by: Farang
Never take the sobriety tests. Never. Never ever ever. The cop usually doesn't administer it properly, so your chances of passing even when sober are around 70%. Not good odds when a DUI is on the line.

(the exceptions are the tests required by law such as the breathalyzer)

You can just say "No officer, I refuse to take a field sobriety test"? I'm guessing then he'd require the breathalyzer?

I was stopped on the side of a street, car running, while a friend ran up to his apartment to get some things. A cop pulled up alongside me and asked me what I was doing and if I had been drinking (I had a couple beers but was in no way drunk). He ended up giving me some of sobriety tests: saying the alphabet in normal order, not reverse (failed it :roll, watching his flashlight with my eyes (failed it :roll, and maybe something else, I don't remember. Bunch of fuckin crap. Had to leave the car there and call for a ride. Fuck that fuckin pig.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: clamum

Originally posted by: Farang
Never take the sobriety tests. Never. Never ever ever. The cop usually doesn't administer it properly, so your chances of passing even when sober are around 70%. Not good odds when a DUI is on the line.

(the exceptions are the tests required by law such as the breathalyzer)

You can just say "No officer, I refuse to take a field sobriety test"? I'm guessing then he'd require the breathalyzer?

I was stopped on the side of a street, car running, while a friend ran up to his apartment to get some things. A cop pulled up alongside me and asked me what I was doing and if I had been drinking (I had a couple beers but was in no way drunk). He ended up giving me some of sobriety tests: saying the alphabet in normal order, not reverse (failed it :roll, watching his flashlight with my eyes (failed it :roll, and maybe something else, I don't remember. Bunch of fuckin crap. Had to leave the car there and call for a ride. Fuck that fuckin pig.

..you failed saying the alphabet? Be glad you weren't hooked for DUI..

You don't have to be drunk, by the way. Drunk != impaired.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Xanis
You're a tool. Take the punishment.

Why is he a tool?
Who the hell didn't have a beer or go to a party when they were 16?

*Raises hand*

The first time I EVER had alcohol in my life was this past Christmas (now 18) when I was cleaning up the table for the family I was visiting. Everyone else was downstairs playing a game and so I take a swig of the stuff. I feel this burn in my mouth and I start to think, "what the hell am I doing, is this something I really want to even start to like?" I spit it up and continue on. I continue to live alcohol and drug free. Not only does that keep me healthy, but it also saves me a shitload of money.

Cliffs: OP is indeed a tool

 

[clamum]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: clamum

Originally posted by: Farang
Never take the sobriety tests. Never. Never ever ever. The cop usually doesn't administer it properly, so your chances of passing even when sober are around 70%. Not good odds when a DUI is on the line.

(the exceptions are the tests required by law such as the breathalyzer)

You can just say "No officer, I refuse to take a field sobriety test"? I'm guessing then he'd require the breathalyzer?

I was stopped on the side of a street, car running, while a friend ran up to his apartment to get some things. A cop pulled up alongside me and asked me what I was doing and if I had been drinking (I had a couple beers but was in no way drunk). He ended up giving me some of sobriety tests: saying the alphabet in normal order, not reverse (failed it :roll, watching his flashlight with my eyes (failed it :roll, and maybe something else, I don't remember. Bunch of fuckin crap. Had to leave the car there and call for a ride. Fuck that fuckin pig.

..you failed saying the alphabet? Be glad you weren't hooked for DUI..

You don't have to be drunk, by the way. Drunk != impaired.

Yeah, he said I failed. But Jesus Christ, I'd have to be extremely fucking drunk to do that, and I was nowhere near that. Like I said, a couple beers over a period of probably an hour and a half, which I believe for my body size and such would be under .08. The cop was a dick, but in this town that seems to be not out of the ordinary.