So I got a M.I.P.

[Anubis]

im pretty sure you can look it up on the internet
also this isnt anything new, the have bene busting teenagers with possession for being drunk undreage for decades, i got hit with it 4 times before i was 21, i just paied my fine and went on with my day

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Xanis
You're a tool. Take the punishment.

Why is he a tool?
Who the hell didn't have a beer or go to a party when they were 16?

*raises hand*

Never had a beer, never been drunk, and I've never been to a party where people were drunk.

"Control, control! You must have control!"

I went to many HS parties and never had a beer. I was far from a dork/loser too.

Regardless, the OP did the crime and should pay any and all consequences. If you are kicked from the Tennis team, thats a repercussion you should have known going in.

Its called responsibility and adulthood. Welcome to it.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Anubis
im pretty sure you can look it up on the internet
also this isnt anything new, the have bene busting teenagers with possession for being drunk undreage for decades, i got hit with it 4 times before i was 21, i just paied my fine and went on with my day

I would still like the OP to post the statute he is being charge with violating.

Also in the future OP, if you are not the driver you never have to consent to a search ESPECIALLY ANY KIND OF BREATHALYZER. You did screw yourself by consenting. Tell the officer "I do not consent to a search" "I have nothing else to say until my parents are here(if you are under 18) or until I speak with an attorney"

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Xanis
You're a tool. Take the punishment.

Why is he a tool?
Who the hell didn't have a beer or go to a party when they were 16?

*raises hand*

Never had a beer, never been drunk, and I've never been to a party where people were drunk.

"Control, control! You must have control!"

I went to many HS parties and never had a beer. I was far from a dork/loser too.

Regardless, the OP did the crime and should pay any and all consequences. If you are kicked from the Tennis team, thats a repercussion you should have known going in.

Its called responsibility and adulthood. Welcome to it.

if he didnt sign one thei will not drink/get in trouble dealies like mosh was talking about he IMO should not be kicked off the team, its pretty stupid that schools punish you for things that happen well outside of school and have nothing to do with school at all

other then that i agree with you

 

[Homerboy]

if he didnt sign one thei will not drink/get in trouble dealies like mosh was talking about he IMO should not be kicked off the team, its pretty stupid that schools punish you for things that happen well outside of school and have nothing to do with school at all

other then that i agree with you

Well at this point I'm not believing anything the OP is saying about that he did/didn't sign anything. On that note, he doesn't HAVE to actually sign anything. If the school's athletic program has a blanket zero-tolerance policy than that is enough to warrant him being kicked off. Usually those papers you sign are just "pledges".

At ~16 you're not really old enough to legally sign anything... so its meaningless. If he got kicked off, I'm sure the school has rules in place and exercised those rules.

Long story short, OP has learned a serious lesson. Life is a bitch. It's not handouts and you don't just "get off the hook" by saying that you are sorry and "didn't know"

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

if he didnt sign one thei will not drink/get in trouble dealies like mosh was talking about he IMO should not be kicked off the team, its pretty stupid that schools punish you for things that happen well outside of school and have nothing to do with school at all

other then that i agree with you

Well at this point I'm not believing anything the OP is saying about that he did/didn't sign anything. On that note, he doesn't HAVE to actually sign anything. If the school's athletic program has a blanket zero-tolerance policy than that is enough to warrant him being kicked off. Usually those papers you sign are just "pledges".

At ~16 you're not really old enough to legally sign anything... so its meaningless. If he got kicked off, I'm sure the school has rules in place and exercised those rules.

Long story short, OP has learned a serious lesson. Life is a bitch. It's not handouts and you don't just "get off the hook" by saying that you are sorry and "didn't know"

Then the other side of that is this is a ridiculous law. Ruining some high school kids because of some harmless drinking is about as ludicrous as posting a craigslist ad telling people to take everything for free from someones house.

 

[Homerboy]

Then the other side of that is this is a ridiculous law. Ruining some high school kids because of some harmless drinking is about as ludicrous as posting a craigslist ad telling people to take everything for free from someones house.

I'm missing how he's "ruined"... He made a choice to break the law. and breaking that law will have consequences. Thats how our society works. If I got hit with a DUI would I not get in trouble and have repercussions? Who knows what his HS is like too. Is it a public school? Or a private/parochial school with high standards and morals? You have to take that into consideration too.

Personally, if I was the parent I certainly wouldn't be helping my kid "fight it" and try to get off the hook.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: atybimf

Originally posted by: clamum

Originally posted by: atybimf
The driver blew a .021 (we would've been off if he had blown below .020..) and the rest of us blew .022, .08, .07, and a .151 for me.

Lightweight.

no, not by a long shot

wow, you must be proud. :roll:

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Homerboy

if he didnt sign one thei will not drink/get in trouble dealies like mosh was talking about he IMO should not be kicked off the team, its pretty stupid that schools punish you for things that happen well outside of school and have nothing to do with school at all

other then that i agree with you

Well at this point I'm not believing anything the OP is saying about that he did/didn't sign anything. On that note, he doesn't HAVE to actually sign anything. If the school's athletic program has a blanket zero-tolerance policy than that is enough to warrant him being kicked off. Usually those papers you sign are just "pledges".

At ~16 you're not really old enough to legally sign anything... so its meaningless. If he got kicked off, I'm sure the school has rules in place and exercised those rules.

Long story short, OP has learned a serious lesson. Life is a bitch. It's not handouts and you don't just "get off the hook" by saying that you are sorry and "didn't know"

Then the other side of that is this is a ridiculous law. Ruining some high school kids because of some harmless drinking is about as ludicrous as posting a craigslist ad telling people to take everything for free from someones house.

Harmless drinking? They were driving while under the influence

 

[zinfamous]

lol pwned.

.151? well, at least you were toasty enough to tolerate your jail visit. though....I bet you sobered up rather quickly

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: atybimf

Originally posted by: clamum

Originally posted by: atybimf
The driver blew a .021 (we would've been off if he had blown below .020..) and the rest of us blew .022, .08, .07, and a .151 for me.

Lightweight.

no, not by a long shot

oh yeah? I bet I can drink you into the ground.

 

[JS80]

I'm on a MIP at work (Management Incentive Plan) and it's 40% of my base.

 

[Leros]

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Homerboy

if he didnt sign one thei will not drink/get in trouble dealies like mosh was talking about he IMO should not be kicked off the team, its pretty stupid that schools punish you for things that happen well outside of school and have nothing to do with school at all

other then that i agree with you

Well at this point I'm not believing anything the OP is saying about that he did/didn't sign anything. On that note, he doesn't HAVE to actually sign anything. If the school's athletic program has a blanket zero-tolerance policy than that is enough to warrant him being kicked off. Usually those papers you sign are just "pledges".

At ~16 you're not really old enough to legally sign anything... so its meaningless. If he got kicked off, I'm sure the school has rules in place and exercised those rules.

Long story short, OP has learned a serious lesson. Life is a bitch. It's not handouts and you don't just "get off the hook" by saying that you are sorry and "didn't know"

Then the other side of that is this is a ridiculous law. Ruining some high school kids because of some harmless drinking is about as ludicrous as posting a craigslist ad telling people to take everything for free from someones house.

Harmless drinking? They were driving while under the influence

They were being responsible. They had a designated driver who had a low BAC. If he was a few years older, the driver would have been legally allowed to drive so I don't see it as a big deal.

Do you think they are helping these kids out long term by making the rest of their high school miserable? I know people who got busted doing underaged drinking while I was in high school. They got removed from all school related activities and were quite miserable. In turn, they became more secretive about their drinking, started doing worse things, and became less interested in school and education. I'd say the punishment made them worse off.

I don't condone underaged drinking, but these punishments are too harsh for people who are drinking responsibly and would be perfectly legal if they were a bit older. I support the punishments for drunken teens who drive and do other stupid stuff, but I don't like laws that harshly punish people because they are under some arbitrary age.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Originally posted by: Leros

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Homerboy

if he didnt sign one thei will not drink/get in trouble dealies like mosh was talking about he IMO should not be kicked off the team, its pretty stupid that schools punish you for things that happen well outside of school and have nothing to do with school at all

other then that i agree with you

Well at this point I'm not believing anything the OP is saying about that he did/didn't sign anything. On that note, he doesn't HAVE to actually sign anything. If the school's athletic program has a blanket zero-tolerance policy than that is enough to warrant him being kicked off. Usually those papers you sign are just "pledges".

At ~16 you're not really old enough to legally sign anything... so its meaningless. If he got kicked off, I'm sure the school has rules in place and exercised those rules.

Long story short, OP has learned a serious lesson. Life is a bitch. It's not handouts and you don't just "get off the hook" by saying that you are sorry and "didn't know"

Then the other side of that is this is a ridiculous law. Ruining some high school kids because of some harmless drinking is about as ludicrous as posting a craigslist ad telling people to take everything for free from someones house.

Harmless drinking? They were driving while under the influence

They were being responsible. They had a designated river who had a low BAC. If he was a few years older, the driver would have been legally allowed to drive so I don't see it as a big deal.

Do you think they are helping these kids out long term by making the rest of their high school miserable? I know people who got busted doing underaged drinking while I was in high school. They got removed from all school related activities and were quite miserable. In turn, they became more secretive about their drinking, started doing worse things, and became less interested in school and education. I'd say the punishment made them worse off.

The argument works both ways. First of all, the driver had a couple of drinks. I don't trust anyone with a car if they had over 1 drink an hour.

Secondly, its punishment for being stupid. Sure you can argue the law is unjust, whatever. The fact of the matter is, they were drinking underage, and their driver was over the legal limit for intoxication.

Also, you may know kids who got worse, but I know kids who were getting high every day, drinking every day, and partying, while flunking at school. However, police, school, and parent intervention, helped him, and now, he's doing well. Punishment is so that the kids learns. If he takes that punishment and does more stupid stuff with his life, sure, go get yourself killed or hurt.

 

[venkman]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Atheus
Cops can lie about you, threaten you, beat the shit out of you - whatever they want and there's nothing you can do. Why? Because at the end of the day its your word vs. that of the cop.

Here's the rub: you're legally not allowed to record what the cop said. How fucked up is that?

If that were true, a third of youtube crowd would be in jail right now.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Originally posted by: venkman

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: Atheus
Cops can lie about you, threaten you, beat the shit out of you - whatever they want and there's nothing you can do. Why? Because at the end of the day its your word vs. that of the cop.

Here's the rub: you're legally not allowed to record what the cop said. How fucked up is that?

If that were true, a third of youtube crowd would be in jail right now.

and who exactly is going to track this and go through the effort to find all of the people that actually recorded it?

 

[Jugernot]

HAHAHA, dumbass!

 

[waffleironhead]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

A car is no public property.

Point is the officer has proof he has alcohol in his bloodstream. This is circumstantial evidence and Not proof of possession. The law is for possession anyways not conspiracy to have possession or having at one point had possession.

I want to see how this law is written.

I've never heard of parents being cited for allowing their teenage child to drink a bit of alcohol. They get in trouble for serving minors other than their children

[/quote]
http://www.moga.state.mo.us/st...300-399/3110000325.htm

"Any person under the age of twenty-one years, who ... has a detectable blood alcohol content of more than two-hundredths of one percent or more by weight of alcohol in such person's blood is guilty of a misdemeanor." See Mo. Rev. Stat. § 311.325(1).

The only thing the cop needed was probable cause to test, maybe smelled it on their breath.

 

[xeemzor]

Originally posted by: waffleironhead

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

A car is no public property.

Point is the officer has proof he has alcohol in his bloodstream. This is circumstantial evidence and Not proof of possession. The law is for possession anyways not conspiracy to have possession or having at one point had possession.

I want to see how this law is written.

I've never heard of parents being cited for allowing their teenage child to drink a bit of alcohol. They get in trouble for serving minors other than their children

http://www.moga.state.mo.us/st...300-399/3110000325.htm

"Any person under the age of twenty-one years, who ... has a detectable blood alcohol content of more than two-hundredths of one percent or more by weight of alcohol in such person's blood is guilty of a misdemeanor." See Mo. Rev. Stat. § 311.325(1).

The only thing the cop needed was probable cause to test, maybe smelled it on their breath.

They can't force you to take the test. Same with DUIs really. There are provisions in the law for dealing with people who refuse to take the test. Generally, it's better to get charged with a refusal to take the test than it is to actually take the test and fail it. It's MUCH harder to convict on a DUI without the breathalyser evidence.

 

[waffleironhead]

Originally posted by: xeemzor

Originally posted by: waffleironhead

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

A car is no public property.

Point is the officer has proof he has alcohol in his bloodstream. This is circumstantial evidence and Not proof of possession. The law is for possession anyways not conspiracy to have possession or having at one point had possession.

I want to see how this law is written.

I've never heard of parents being cited for allowing their teenage child to drink a bit of alcohol. They get in trouble for serving minors other than their children

http://www.moga.state.mo.us/st...300-399/3110000325.htm

"Any person under the age of twenty-one years, who ... has a detectable blood alcohol content of more than two-hundredths of one percent or more by weight of alcohol in such person's blood is guilty of a misdemeanor." See Mo. Rev. Stat. § 311.325(1).

The only thing the cop needed was probable cause to test, maybe smelled it on their breath.

They can't force you to take the test. Same with DUIs really. There are provisions in the law for dealing with people who refuse to take the test. Generally, it's better to get charged with a refusal to take the test than it is to actually take the test and fail it. It's MUCH harder to convict on a DUI without the breathalyser evidence.

Can you show me where it says that? I'm not disagreeing with you I just would like to know.

 

[zanejohnson]

its not a big deal, i got one when i was younger, it was just a big fine (well big when your that age, it was like 400 dollars)

dont bother getting it expunged, it will go away when you turn 18.

 

[Q]

Originally posted by: KLin
PWNED!! :laugh:

QFT

 

[xeemzor]

Originally posted by: waffleironhead

Originally posted by: xeemzor

Originally posted by: waffleironhead

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

A car is no public property.

Point is the officer has proof he has alcohol in his bloodstream. This is circumstantial evidence and Not proof of possession. The law is for possession anyways not conspiracy to have possession or having at one point had possession.

I want to see how this law is written.

I've never heard of parents being cited for allowing their teenage child to drink a bit of alcohol. They get in trouble for serving minors other than their children

http://www.moga.state.mo.us/st...300-399/3110000325.htm

"Any person under the age of twenty-one years, who ... has a detectable blood alcohol content of more than two-hundredths of one percent or more by weight of alcohol in such person's blood is guilty of a misdemeanor." See Mo. Rev. Stat. § 311.325(1).

The only thing the cop needed was probable cause to test, maybe smelled it on their breath.

They can't force you to take the test. Same with DUIs really. There are provisions in the law for dealing with people who refuse to take the test. Generally, it's better to get charged with a refusal to take the test than it is to actually take the test and fail it. It's MUCH harder to convict on a DUI without the breathalyser evidence.

Can you show me where it says that? I'm not disagreeing with you I just would like to know.

This is only for IL. Search for refuse.

 

[sniperruff]

blame it on listerine

 

[adairusmc]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Xanis
You're a tool. Take the punishment.

Why is he a tool?
Who the hell didn't have a beer or go to a party when they were 16?

*raises hand*

Never had a beer, never been drunk, and I've never been to a party where people were drunk.

"Control, control! You must have control!"

Same here. Did not have a drink once until after I turned 21.