so, I have a problem with "Book of Eli"

mizzou

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I liked the movie quite a bit, but the ending....well.. wtf was with that?

I assume the directors wanted to pull a 6th sense style "WTF?!" that makes you want to watch it again....

but when you watch it again, it's pretty clear that Denzel had clear eyesight pretty much the entire time.

The opening scene IMO is the most damning, how is he wearing a full hooded mask w/ respirator and making a pinpoint hit w/ an arrow while laying on his back w/ head raised?

Totally unnecessary, it would have been just as good had he simply just remembered the book by from reading it regularly, not necessarily by Braille.
 

sandorski

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I liked the movie quite a bit, but the ending....well.. wtf was with that?

I assume the directors wanted to pull a 6th sense style "WTF?!" that makes you want to watch it again....

but when you watch it again, it's pretty clear that Denzel had clear eyesight pretty much the entire time.

The opening scene IMO is the most damning, how is he wearing a full hooded mask w/ respirator and making a pinpoint hit w/ an arrow while laying on his back w/ head raised?

Totally unnecessary, it would have been just as good had he simply just remembered the book by from reading it regularly, not necessarily by Braille.

It goes with the Messenger of God motif. He had Supernatural ability. That and the whole "last Bible in the World" crap is what put me off most about BoE. If the People of the Time determined the Bible was the cause of the Destruction of the World, I think I would side with their Judgment on that.
 

rudeguy

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I was pissed when I watched it in the theater. The only thing I could think of was how much it looked like Fallout 3.

Sucks cause I really like Denzel.
 

RocksteadyDotNet

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I liked the movie quite a bit, but the ending....well.. wtf was with that?

I assume the directors wanted to pull a 6th sense style "WTF?!" that makes you want to watch it again....

but when you watch it again, it's pretty clear that Denzel had clear eyesight pretty much the entire time.

The opening scene IMO is the most damning, how is he wearing a full hooded mask w/ respirator and making a pinpoint hit w/ an arrow while laying on his back w/ head raised?

Totally unnecessary, it would have been just as good had he simply just remembered the book by from reading it regularly, not necessarily by Braille.

In that opening scene he doesnt shoot the cat until it makes a noise. Just as he never shoots anyone until after they shoot at him. He needs to hear where they are to make the shot.

But yeah, the film is a big piece of shit.
 

Udgnim

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the plot twist obviously implied that while the nukes took away his sight, it gave him an echo location ability and spider sense
 

Riceninja

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it was pretty obvious; he read the bible while facing away from the light, and he turned down a piece of ass like mila kunis. only a blind man would do that
 

Mike Gayner

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Holy fucking shit what do the writers have to do, write in big crayon letters "he was blind you dumb shits, we were trying for subtlety but apparently American audiences are too fucking stupid to get that"?
 

bunnyfubbles

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just because he was carrying around a braille bible doesn't mean he has to be blind

you don't have to be blind to read braille and you certainly don't have to be blind to memorize the bible

sure, the character may be blind, but the actor was clearly looking specifically at things making noise / people talking meaning something somewhere got fucked up in translation which is part of what makes this a mediocre twist and ultimately mediocre movie.
 
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Mike Gayner

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just because he was carrying around a braille bible doesn't mean he has to be blind

you don't have to be blind to read braille and you certainly don't have to be blind to memorize the bible

sure, the character may be blind, but the actor was clearly looking specifically at things making noise / people talking meaning something somewhere got fucked up in translation which is part of what makes this a mediocre twist and ultimately mediocre movie.

Ugh, see this is what I mean. They try to be a little subtle and suddenly retarded American audiences don't understand it. He's so fucking obviously blind that I can't see how you could possibly question it.
 

StageLeft

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If you think his pinpoint accuracy is proof his eyesight was good you missed the entire damn point of the movie.
 

Josh

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just because he was carrying around a braille bible doesn't mean he has to be blind

you don't have to be blind to read braille and you certainly don't have to be blind to memorize the bible

sure, the character may be blind, but the actor was clearly looking specifically at things making noise / people talking meaning something somewhere got fucked up in translation which is part of what makes this a mediocre twist and ultimately mediocre movie.

He's blind. There are several clues in the movie that points towards this, and several clues that show he has heightened senses such as hearing, and smell which blind people develop because when you lose one sense the brain focuses more on the other senses. Don't forget he also says he walks by faith not by sight. Below are some clues.

1. When he walks into an abandoned house he's feeling around on the shelves to find items making all the plates move, some one who could see would have no reason in doing this.

2. When he finds the skeleton in the car he feels on it's feet to see if it has shoes, if you could see you wouldn't have to touch it.

3. When the mouse comes he tells the mouse if he wants food he has to come get it, pointing towards that he isn't able to see him.

4. When his IPOD is dead he keeps pressing all the buttons because he can't see the battery low indicator on the screen.

5. He fights the ambushers in the dark to give them a disadvantage because he doesn't need to see and uses his heightened sense of hearing, if he could see wouldn't you stay in the sun light where it's easier to see?

6. When he's walking with Solara he tells her to be quiet so he can hear the birds above and is able to shoot one to eat.

7. When he's walking to the house with the old couple he kicks the first step to check if there are stairs there.

8. When the old couple tells him there's a no trespassing sign he says he didn't see it, even though he clearly walks right by it.

9. He clearly has a heightened sense of hearing because he never shoots unless some one shoots first because he won't know where they are, and then in the town when the last guy is left pointing a gun at him he doesn't do anything because he doesn't know where he his unless he shoots first.

10. It's also clear that he has a heightened sense of smell because he can smell the ladies shampoo, he says he can smell the ambushers from miles away, he can smell the salt from the ocean which Solara doesn't smell.

11. He has the old guy write everything he says, wouldn't it be easier to write everything yourself if you could see?

12. He also always turns his face to the sunlight so he can feel the heat from the sun so he knows it's day.

13. Whenever he gets water he smells and tastes it first, any one who could see clearly knows what water looks like.

14. In the pawn shop when he turns the lighter on he moves his hand over it so he can feel the heat from the flame so he knows it's working.

God also leads him to find a bible written in braille, if he could see why wouldn't god lead him to a bible with words?
 
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