So I just got e-mailed a DMCA violation notice

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manowar821

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Just download what ever you want. If they ever send you DMCA notices (what a damn joke!) ignore it.
The only way you will get into REAL trouble is if they prove you downloaded a specific piece of media/software. Otherwise they're just getting your damn IP address off of the server logs.
So, if they actually tell you that they're going to pursue the issue legally, and they tell you exactly what you "stole", all you have to do is go to the store and purchase the media they claimed you downloaded. Make sure you do so with cash, and take the receipt. You'll need to burn the receipt to get rid of the date. If you think that they're going to go ask the store for records, you could always shoplift the item.. HAHA, just kidding. That's not okay, in my book.

Now you have a perfectly legal reason to have a digital copy of your paid for music, video, or software!

Also, it's been said before, but use encrypted clients and private torrent trackers for crying out loud. Don't forget, we need the uploads to survive, otherwise the downloads won't happen...
Share your materials, ya damn leechers!

Happy pirating!
 

IEC

Elite Member
Super Moderator
Jun 10, 2004
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Originally posted by: manowar821
Just download what ever you want. If they ever send you DMCA notices (what a damn joke!) ignore it.
The only way you will get into REAL trouble is if they prove you downloaded a specific piece of media/software. Otherwise they're just getting your damn IP address off of the server logs.
So, if they actually tell you that they're going to pursue the issue legally, and they tell you exactly what you "stole", all you have to do is go to the store and purchase the media they claimed you downloaded. Make sure you do so with cash, and take the receipt. You'll need to burn the receipt to get rid of the date. If you think that they're going to go ask the store for records, you could always shoplift the item.. HAHA, just kidding. That's not okay, in my book.

Now you have a perfectly legal reason to have a digital copy of your paid for music, video, or software!

Also, it's been said before, but use encrypted clients and private torrent trackers for crying out loud. Don't forget, we need the uploads to survive, otherwise the downloads won't happen...
Share your materials, ya damn leechers!

Happy BAN!

Fixed.
 

manowar821

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Mar 1, 2007
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Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
Originally posted by: manowar821
Just download what ever you want. If they ever send you DMCA notices (what a damn joke!) ignore it.
The only way you will get into REAL trouble is if they prove you downloaded a specific piece of media/software. Otherwise they're just getting your damn IP address off of the server logs.
So, if they actually tell you that they're going to pursue the issue legally, and they tell you exactly what you "stole", all you have to do is go to the store and purchase the media they claimed you downloaded. Make sure you do so with cash, and take the receipt. You'll need to burn the receipt to get rid of the date. If you think that they're going to go ask the store for records, you could always shoplift the item.. HAHA, just kidding. That's not okay, in my book.

Now you have a perfectly legal reason to have a digital copy of your paid for music, video, or software!

Also, it's been said before, but use encrypted clients and private torrent trackers for crying out loud. Don't forget, we need the uploads to survive, otherwise the downloads won't happen...
Share your materials, ya damn leechers!

Happy BAN!

Fixed.

Heh heh.. I don't think so
 

Kur

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Feb 19, 2005
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What should you do?

Stop using public torrent sites.

Read comments before you download.

Don't download movies that are in RAR format, that's a trap waiting to happen.
 

GeneValgene

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Originally posted by: AnthroAndStargate
So my ISP (a crappy high speed cable provider I wont name) just e-mailed me a DMCA copyright violation notice for supposedly downloading an episode of the Office via Bit Torrent.

I find it funny because the day they got it they sent it to us - yet when our cable goes down or is crappy it taakes months to resolve it. America's last mile internet system is truly something to not be jealous of.

Anyways I was wondering if any of you who have been served such notices had any further problems? It's written in legal speak but it seems like a simple warning that says 'If you do this again legal action will be taken' and also that they will ban me from said cable company.

Any advice/information?

oh snap...this scares me. i download the office off bittorrent all the time!

 

DBL

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Mar 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: Kur
What should you do?

Stop using public torrent sites.

Read comments before you download.

Don't download movies that are in RAR format, that's a trap waiting to happen.

expand
 

DarkKnight69

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Jun 15, 2005
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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: Roguestar
Move to a country where they don't have such draconian anti-innovative antisocial anti-consumer laws such as the DMCA, like Canada.

True, anyone that isn't capable of mustering the 3 IQ points necessary to figure out a non-tracable way of pirating goes to Canada. The smart people stay here and work around it.

I prefer not having the extra work. If i dont need to worry about it I am happy!
 

Kur

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Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: Kur
What should you do?

Stop using public torrent sites.

Read comments before you download.

Don't download movies that are in RAR format, that's a trap waiting to happen.

expand

sometimes people will be smart and name the files like they usually are to trick people.
 

pcslookout

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Originally posted by: RaiderJ
I think typically the issue with bittorrent is when you upload, not when you download - at least according to my ISP.

My solution? $15/mo for Newsgroup access. Faster speeds, more content, no DMCA notices.

What is this please and how would I learn more about it? Who do you pay and why ?
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: pcslookout
You got what was coming because you used P2P

Agreed. It's like a shining beacon. "HEY!!!! MONITOR ME! I'M STEALING STUFF! MONITOR ME, LOG ME, IT'S THE INTARWEB!!!!"
 

GagHalfrunt

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: pcslookout
You got what was coming because you used P2P

Agreed. It's like a shining beacon. "HEY!!!! MONITOR ME! I'M STEALING STUFF! MONITOR ME, LOG ME, IT'S THE INTARWEB!!!!"

Agreed. Anyone that gets a cease and desist order from his ISP for stealing via P2P should be kicked off the internet for gross stupidity. Let's get rid of the no-brain kiddies so that the intelligent pirates can steal stuff in peace without listening to the whining.
 

RaiderJ

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Originally posted by: pcslookout
Originally posted by: RaiderJ
I think typically the issue with bittorrent is when you upload, not when you download - at least according to my ISP.

My solution? $15/mo for Newsgroup access. Faster speeds, more content, no DMCA notices.

What is this please and how would I learn more about it? Who do you pay and why ?

It's not very user-friendly to start off with. Do some googling to get a better idea of what all is involved. If you still have questions, email me and I'll help you out.
 

Googer

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Originally posted by: dainthomas
Get the original Office on DVD. Much funnier.

Agreed and then if they take you to court you can say that you were practicing your fair usage rights. I download stuff all the time that I already own or have damaged (i.e. old CD's). IF they ever come to my front door and accuse me of theft then I will just show them my CD collection and tell them to bug off.
 

Googer

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: AnthroAndStargate
So my ISP (a crappy high speed cable provider I wont name) just e-mailed me a DMCA copyright violation notice for supposedly downloading an episode of the Office via Bit Torrent.

I find it funny because the day they got it they sent it to us - yet when our cable goes down or is crappy it taakes months to resolve it. America's last mile internet system is truly something to not be jealous of.

Anyways I was wondering if any of you who have been served such notices had any further problems? It's written in legal speak but it seems like a simple warning that says 'If you do this again legal action will be taken' and also that they will ban me from said cable company.

Any advice/information?



Originally posted by: stag3
i just received one too for downloading nba games via bit torrent.

Who is your ISP? COX, Comcast, Road Runner, Bright House, Verizon?

EDIT: I bet he is an AOL member.
 

chuckywang

Lifer
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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: pcslookout
You got what was coming because you used P2P

Agreed. It's like a shining beacon. "HEY!!!! MONITOR ME! I'M STEALING STUFF! MONITOR ME, LOG ME, IT'S THE INTARWEB!!!!"

Agreed. Anyone that gets a cease and desist order from his ISP for stealing via P2P should be kicked off the internet for gross stupidity. Let's get rid of the no-brain kiddies so that the intelligent pirates can steal stuff in peace without listening to the whining.

Bittorrent is P2P?
 

Beev

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I got a notice like that 2 or so years ago. I promptly downloaded Peerguardian and went back to downloading. I've never gotten another notice, and I download FAR more now than then.

Let me guess, you use Cox internet? They're nothing but pure garbage.
 

RichUK

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Feb 14, 2005
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Foil me once, shame on you. Foil me twice, shame on me?

Foil instead of fool. I think it?s quite appropriate in this context, would you not agree?

Take heed, OP.
 

Fullmetal Chocobo

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It's funny to me to see so few on ATOT not living paycheck to paycheck, yet still post so many pirating threads.

 

Aikouka

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#1: Realize when you use BT, your info is out there to anyone who makes a connection to you.

#2: These letters are usually from a complaint made to your ISP about IP # xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx. They know your IP, but usually don't do anything for sharing a little bit (unless they're the RIAA ). If you're a mass distributor, they'll probably come after you though. Your ISP may have a policy about these notices though. My friend got one from Comcast once for Beerfest and I think they only warn you once and the next time it's no more intarwebz.

#3: The router defense usually seems to work... although no idea how long it will keep working when everyone says their router's open :laugh:.

EDIT:

#4: Encryption does nothing for the people you connect to. It only helps the ISP not realize what you're sending so their packet shapers don't slow your torrent traffic down. If you wanna block known bad people, get one of the publicly available black lists. They have quite a lot of IPs in them (the file's about 10mb).
 

ForumMaster

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1) Don't do it.

2) Encrypt everything. i encrypt bit-torrent cause most ISP's throttle bit-torrent traffic even if it's legit.
 

skace

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Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
It's funny to me to see so few on ATOT not living paycheck to paycheck, yet still post so many pirating threads.

Most pirating threads consist of downloading TV shows. Something most people view differently than downloading a program because if you miss the original airing you may have very few chances to watch it before the next episode comes out. And if you miss 2 episodes in a row, you are as good as screwed if there is any sort of plot.
 
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