So I just got my 2900 Pro

[Sylvanas]

For those who may be concerned about temps and fan noise, the Thermalright HR-03 / R600 has recently become availiable at most e-tailers would be good to see what kind of clocks the Pro's could get with something like that.

 

[bryanW1995]

yeah, my x1950xt fan is annoying at anything over 60% or so. I normally don't force my fan over a certain # when testing. try ati tool overclocking feature, it should give you max core and memory pretty reliably without wasting a bunch of time.

 

[Xellos2099]

Some claim that this card is actually worse than a 8800 gts 320, are they for real or are they just nvidia fanboy?

 

[Cardio]

Originally posted by: Xellos2099
Some claim that this card is actually worse than a 8800 gts 320, are they for real or are they just nvidia fanboy?

Well I have both an Evga 8800GTS 320 and, a just arrived HIS 2900 PRO, and in every test I have run so far (3dMarks and a few Game marks @ stock speeds) the 2900 is faster. It is also a LOT louder and runs HOTTER.

It easily runs at 750, 1710 on the first try. Have not yet benchmarked at OC speeds as only got it late yesterday.

E6750 @ 3.4 @1.375V, GA-G33M DSR2, 4GB GSkill F2-6400CL5D @2.0V
Antec Fusion V2 HTPC Case W Antec 430 Watt PS
Video Card powered by Thermaltake W0099RU external 250 Watt (300watt peak) PS with 2 6pin Pcie connectors.
VISTA home premium

I am not so sure about the ATI/AMD drivers for use on a 58" Plasma monitor yet, I was just used to Nvidia's configuration options and perhaps CC Center will be as good.


Only problem I see is I don't like the noise level @ 100% fan speed. At lower than 50% the sound level is acceptable and when gaming noise not much of an issue. It fit easily in this HTPC case.

YMMV, but looks good so far.

 

[Aznguy1872]

Wow, 750, 1710 is very good. I have mine at 710, 1700 right now. I had i that 720 but decided to lower it just to make sure I don't kill something. It couldn't handle 730 as 3dmark06 crashed then again I have my vcard fan not running at 100, not sure if that matters or not. A quick question, how the hell do you get Windows Defender to not block Rivatuner. have to reset my settings everytime, its driving me insane!

 

[lopri]

2900 Pro has lower voltage for the core (vs 2900 XT), I hear. Mine is up to 750/1900 so far without voltage changes, but it's a GDDR4 version.

 

[lopri]

Thinking of flashing the BIOS to XT. I found the BIOS here, but not sure what kind of flash tools are available.

 

[AzN]

Totally you should flash bios if the vcore is lowered. There is no physical difference between the 2 cards.

Try ATIWINFLASH

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: NullSubroutine
The 8pin for your mobo (4+4 CPU Pin) is not compatible with 8pin PCI-E that is required for the R600. You will not likely see benchmarks near XT speeds. On the XT if you run 6+6 pin instead of 6+8 pin it wont run at higher clocks (nor would it you access the OC part in the CCC).

In order to get higher clock speeds you would need a new PSU so you have the PCI-E 8 pin(either full 8 pin or the 6+2 pin) some PSU's have. However, depending on your current PSU, some manufacturers are allowing people to send in for free 6+2 pin adapters or modular cables.

WRONG!

Use ATITool, RivaTuner, AMD GPU Overclock utility etc with 6+6 pin no problem.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: Azn
ATI might have lowered the voltage compared 2900xt. Who knows. Make sure you fan is @ 100% when you test for artifacts.

Not necessary because the fan will never be at 100% during games. If you test at 100% fan rotation and get 0 artifacts there is still a chance to get some during play because the fan rarely goes above 45%.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: NullSubroutine
The 8pin for your mobo (4+4 CPU Pin) is not compatible with 8pin PCI-E that is required for the R600. You will not likely see benchmarks near XT speeds. On the XT if you run 6+6 pin instead of 6+8 pin it wont run at higher clocks (nor would it you access the OC part in the CCC).

In order to get higher clock speeds you would need a new PSU so you have the PCI-E 8 pin(either full 8 pin or the 6+2 pin) some PSU's have. However, depending on your current PSU, some manufacturers are allowing people to send in for free 6+2 pin adapters or modular cables.

WRONG!

Use ATITool, RivaTuner, AMD GPU Overclock utility etc with 6+6 pin no problem.

True story.

Obviously, if you can get the 8-pin, great, as a little extra power surely is better than not, but only CCC needs the 8-pin connected to OC.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: Oyeve

Originally posted by: Aznguy1872

Originally posted by: spittledip
There's an 8 pin pci express connector on PSUs now? All I have are 2 6 pin connectors

Yeah mine only has the 2 6-pins also. Kind of sucks not having that 8-pin one but its ok. Not too many PSU's have that 8 pin pcie. Only benefit of having it is being able to use overdrive which I don't really care about.

Havent installed it yet, just got it sent to my job and it came today and I am still at work. Question tho. My PSU has an 8 pin PCIE connector, do I need to use the 6 pin PCIE and the 8 pin PCIE? No documentation in package and I havent had time to look for the info.

Yes you need 2 connectors. Either 6+8 or 6+6

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: Cardio

Originally posted by: Xellos2099
Some claim that this card is actually worse than a 8800 gts 320, are they for real or are they just nvidia fanboy?

Well I have both an Evga 8800GTS 320 and, a just arrived HIS 2900 PRO, and in every test I have run so far (3dMarks and a few Game marks @ stock speeds) the 2900 is faster. It is also a LOT louder and runs HOTTER.

It easily runs at 750, 1710 on the first try. Have not yet benchmarked at OC speeds as only got it late yesterday.

E6750 @ 3.4 @1.375V, GA-G33M DSR2, 4GB GSkill F2-6400CL5D @2.0V
Antec Fusion V2 HTPC Case W Antec 430 Watt PS
Video Card powered by Thermaltake W0099RU external 250 Watt (300watt peak) PS with 2 6pin Pcie connectors.
VISTA home premium

I am not so sure about the ATI/AMD drivers for use on a 58" Plasma monitor yet, I was just used to Nvidia's configuration options and perhaps CC Center will be as good.


Only problem I see is I don't like the noise level @ 100% fan speed. At lower than 50% the sound level is acceptable and when gaming noise not much of an issue. It fit easily in this HTPC case.

YMMV, but looks good so far.

WHY are you running 100% fan rotation? let the drivers handle it. The fan will never spin up above about 45% or so.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: n7

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: NullSubroutine
The 8pin for your mobo (4+4 CPU Pin) is not compatible with 8pin PCI-E that is required for the R600. You will not likely see benchmarks near XT speeds. On the XT if you run 6+6 pin instead of 6+8 pin it wont run at higher clocks (nor would it you access the OC part in the CCC).

In order to get higher clock speeds you would need a new PSU so you have the PCI-E 8 pin(either full 8 pin or the 6+2 pin) some PSU's have. However, depending on your current PSU, some manufacturers are allowing people to send in for free 6+2 pin adapters or modular cables.

WRONG!

Use ATITool, RivaTuner, AMD GPU Overclock utility etc with 6+6 pin no problem.

True story.

Obviously, if you can get the 8-pin, great, as a little extra power surely is better than not, but only CCC needs the 8-pin connected to OC.

Righto, and this is the 3rd time I'm going to say it. and I'm going to put it in big caps so you can see what I'm asking.

WHY IS EVERYONE INSISTING ON PUTTING THE FAN AT 100%?! IT IS NOT NECESSARY.

Let the drivers handle the fan rotational speed based on the heat output of the card. I have my 2900XT at 780/910 and the fan never goes above 45% ever. Not even after running a DX10 demo in loop for 6 hours. The card also never goes above 85c ever, no artifacts.

These cards are designed to handle a certain amount of heat on the gpu. Complaining about the fan when it's forced to 100% and should not ever really reach 100% unless your caseflow is horrible, is rediculous.

Sorry for caps and sorry for rant

 

[AzN]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Azn
ATI might have lowered the voltage compared 2900xt. Who knows. Make sure you fan is @ 100% when you test for artifacts.

Not necessary because the fan will never be at 100% during games. If you test at 100% fan rotation and get 0 artifacts there is still a chance to get some during play because the fan rarely goes above 45%.

Why not? Fan is adjustable is it not?

 

[Sylvanas]

Don't think there is any difference in Vcore between the Pro and the XT as some people at XS have had higher results using the Pro Bios than to flashing it with an XT bios- therefore it can be assumed that there is quite a difference in memory timings between the different models and separate vendors. No harm in trying it out though, if anyone is game .

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Azn
ATI might have lowered the voltage compared 2900xt. Who knows. Make sure you fan is @ 100% when you test for artifacts.

Not necessary because the fan will never be at 100% during games. If you test at 100% fan rotation and get 0 artifacts there is still a chance to get some during play because the fan rarely goes above 45%.

Why not? Fan is adjustable is it not?

you don't want to run that fan at anything close to 100% for an extended period of time. well, unless you work around jet engines on a daily basis. and you're deaf.

 

[lopri]

Oops I linked a wrong page for 2900 XT BIOS in my previous post. Here is the correct link for anyone's interested.

http://www.techpowerup.com/vga...T&interface=&memSize=0

Originally posted by: Sylvanas
Don't think there is any difference in Vcore between the Pro and the XT as some people at XS have had higher results using the Pro Bios than to flashing it with an XT bios- therefore it can be assumed that there is quite a difference in memory timings between the different models and separate vendors. No harm in trying it out though, if anyone is game .

Thanks for the info, Sylvanas.

 

[AzN]

Originally posted by: bryanW1995

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Azn
ATI might have lowered the voltage compared 2900xt. Who knows. Make sure you fan is @ 100% when you test for artifacts.

Not necessary because the fan will never be at 100% during games. If you test at 100% fan rotation and get 0 artifacts there is still a chance to get some during play because the fan rarely goes above 45%.

Why not? Fan is adjustable is it not?

you don't want to run that fan at anything close to 100% for an extended period of time. well, unless you work around jet engines on a daily basis. and you're deaf.

LOL. Just for testing overclocks. Some people don't mind the noise.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: bryanW1995

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Azn
ATI might have lowered the voltage compared 2900xt. Who knows. Make sure you fan is @ 100% when you test for artifacts.

Not necessary because the fan will never be at 100% during games. If you test at 100% fan rotation and get 0 artifacts there is still a chance to get some during play because the fan rarely goes above 45%.

Why not? Fan is adjustable is it not?

you don't want to run that fan at anything close to 100% for an extended period of time. well, unless you work around jet engines on a daily basis. and you're deaf.

LOL. Just for testing overclocks. Some people don't mind the noise.

Yeah but then if you have to run 100% fan speed to maintain that overclock, what is the damn point?

 

[Makaveli]

I second showing some real game benchmarks, and not 3dcrap scores please!

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: bryanW1995

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Azn
ATI might have lowered the voltage compared 2900xt. Who knows. Make sure you fan is @ 100% when you test for artifacts.

Not necessary because the fan will never be at 100% during games. If you test at 100% fan rotation and get 0 artifacts there is still a chance to get some during play because the fan rarely goes above 45%.

Why not? Fan is adjustable is it not?

you don't want to run that fan at anything close to 100% for an extended period of time. well, unless you work around jet engines on a daily basis. and you're deaf.

LOL. Just for testing overclocks. Some people don't mind the noise.

Yeah but then if you have to run 100% fan speed to maintain that overclock, what is the damn point?

QFT

 

[AzN]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: bryanW1995

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Azn
ATI might have lowered the voltage compared 2900xt. Who knows. Make sure you fan is @ 100% when you test for artifacts.

Not necessary because the fan will never be at 100% during games. If you test at 100% fan rotation and get 0 artifacts there is still a chance to get some during play because the fan rarely goes above 45%.

Why not? Fan is adjustable is it not?

you don't want to run that fan at anything close to 100% for an extended period of time. well, unless you work around jet engines on a daily basis. and you're deaf.

LOL. Just for testing overclocks. Some people don't mind the noise.

Yeah but then if you have to run 100% fan speed to maintain that overclock, what is the damn point?

To find your max overclock limit.

Don't you test your hardware when you first get it and than back off some for tension? How would you know what would be good for a overclock if you don't know the limits? :roll:

Later on you can also buy a better after market cooler for it to get those overclocks. No?

 

[AzN]

Originally posted by: bryanW1995

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: bryanW1995

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Azn
ATI might have lowered the voltage compared 2900xt. Who knows. Make sure you fan is @ 100% when you test for artifacts.

Not necessary because the fan will never be at 100% during games. If you test at 100% fan rotation and get 0 artifacts there is still a chance to get some during play because the fan rarely goes above 45%.

Why not? Fan is adjustable is it not?

you don't want to run that fan at anything close to 100% for an extended period of time. well, unless you work around jet engines on a daily basis. and you're deaf.

LOL. Just for testing overclocks. Some people don't mind the noise.

Yeah but then if you have to run 100% fan speed to maintain that overclock, what is the damn point?

QFT

Says the guy who believes Nvidia and ATI have exact specs of each before designing their cards.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: bryanW1995

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Azn
ATI might have lowered the voltage compared 2900xt. Who knows. Make sure you fan is @ 100% when you test for artifacts.

Not necessary because the fan will never be at 100% during games. If you test at 100% fan rotation and get 0 artifacts there is still a chance to get some during play because the fan rarely goes above 45%.

Why not? Fan is adjustable is it not?

you don't want to run that fan at anything close to 100% for an extended period of time. well, unless you work around jet engines on a daily basis. and you're deaf.

LOL. Just for testing overclocks. Some people don't mind the noise.

Yeah but then if you have to run 100% fan speed to maintain that overclock, what is the damn point?

To find your max overclock limit.

Don't you test your hardware when you first get it and than back off some for tension? How would you know what would be good for a overclock if you don't know the limits? :roll:

Later on you can also buy a better after market cooler for it to get those overclocks. No?

Not necessary. Anyone can run 880/1100 at 100% fan speed and say "oh look 3dmark got 1289371238971289378912 points" that is pointless.

What can you get while running the fan at usable levels. Anyone who calls 100% fan speed usable must be deaf. I'm not gonna lie, it's loud.

It's like running dry ice on your C2D for 5min to get the fastest super pi score. WHat is the point? You won't use it like that every day.