So, I just played xbox360

[Beev]

User error in that I had faith the system would be worth a damn.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Sraaz
User error in that I had faith the system would be worth a damn.

So you play one game and that's it? Do you know how many cool games have come out since launch?

It's like having sex for the first time and then saying you won't have sex again b/c you're embarassed that you blew your load after just 20 seconds.

 

[Beev]

You think I just shelved it and am pretending that 0 games have been released since I stopped playing it? I smell a fanboy. Name me even ONE "must have" game that's come out this entire year.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Sraaz
You think I just shelved it and am pretending that 0 games have been released since I stopped playing it? I smell a fanboy. Name me even ONE "must have" game that's come out this entire year.

Fight Night Round 3
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Saints Row
Dead Rising
Table Tennis

How does one spend $400 then just give up? Why not sell it (you could have made a profit in the first few months).

 

[Beev]

Are you seriously implying I should have gotten Oblivion on my 360 instead of the far, FAR superior PC version?

Anyway, I didn't play Fight Night because it isn't my thing, Saints Row is a cheap GTA knockoff, Dead Rising was way too repetitive for me (although I know many people like it), and I played table tennis at my local EB for a solid 2 hours at least and that was pretty much enough for me. Cross platform games don't count by the way. Current gen is all about the exclusives.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Sraaz
Are you seriously implying I should have gotten Oblivion on my 360 instead of the far, FAR superior PC version?

Anyway, I didn't play Fight Night because it isn't my thing, Saints Row is a cheap GTA knockoff, Dead Rising was way too repetitive for me (although I know many people like it), and I played table tennis at my local EB for a solid 2 hours at least and that was pretty much enough for me. Cross platform games don't count by the way. Current gen is all about the exclusives.

But I still don't understand how you could just spend $400, then let it sit for a year without touching it.

Are you:

A) Waiting for some game to come out that appeals to you or
B) Have so much money to throw away that it doesn't matter to you?

 

[Beev]

Of course Gears of War looks great and I have to have Halo 3 Unfortunately I can't think of anything else

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: Sraaz
Are you seriously implying I should have gotten Oblivion on my 360 instead of the far, FAR superior PC version?

Anyway, I didn't play Fight Night because it isn't my thing, Saints Row is a cheap GTA knockoff, Dead Rising was way too repetitive for me (although I know many people like it), and I played table tennis at my local EB for a solid 2 hours at least and that was pretty much enough for me. Cross platform games don't count by the way. Current gen is all about the exclusives.

far far superior my ass..
Did you even try it?
it looks better than the PC version does on a 7900GT rig on a 35inch plasma..

and sitting in your easy chair away from my computer desk for 80 hours in the game so far is priceless..

Saints row on the other hand brings so much to the table unless you play it you cant say crap.. its better than every single GTA game to date... no more crappy pizza deleivery ambulance firetruck and other pointless missions... instead you get criminal activities to complete that actually make sence in the overall game..
the story is FAR superior to every GTA game so far... Im a huge GTA fan and this game kills it by far.... Ive already got over 40 hours into the game and still only around 50% complete..

Dead rising.. well I'll be truthful I dont care for this game much.. the way it handles time pisses me off.. and having to traverse the entire mall every single time to bring someone back is rediculous..

Fight Night.. fun for a while.. breathtaking graphics..

I've also fallen in love with TDU as it turned out to be 4x the game I thought it would be..
its relaly a blast when you start meeting people and hanging out..

The 360 has virtually replaced my PC on most games... Id much rather sit back with my headset on and a wireless controller in my easy chair than stuck at my PC desk..

 

[Beev]

Yes, I did try it. Not only does my PC version look infinitely better, but the keyboard/mouse control scheme is so much better it isn't funny. Where's the motorcycles, boats, and planes in Saints Row? Hell GTA3 had boats...

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: Sraaz
Yes, I did try it. Not only does my PC version look infinitely better, but the keyboard/mouse control scheme is so much better it isn't funny. Where's the motorcycles, boats, and planes in Saints Row? Hell GTA3 had boats...

the game doesnt need boats... or airplanes.. since when does a hitman need any of those things.. you are playing a hired muscle in this game ( a street thug)..

all you need is a car or a truck for this game to work..

why are those things important if the game is already good..

and they added a fun addictive multiplayer to the game which Rockstar hasnt been able to do yet..

why dont you give it a real shot... youll see it doesnt need any of those things to be a great game..

as for Oblivion I think youre full of it.. sounds like a troll... the controls in oblivion were great as was the amazing detail and framerate on the console.. and the infinate+ of not being confined to a computer desk for the 200+ hours its gonna take me to finish it.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I bought a Xbox360 premium ***Felt like it is the better value, ponying up the extra $100 for the HDD, ect. initially*** Sunday, after borrowing my bro's for 3 days while I'm recouping from a major knee injury, so here is my review-

$399.99@Target with 10% discount = $40 savings. Used the $40 to buy Test Drive Unlimted because I have a couple friends and my bro playing it too, and we have a great time with custom races and such. $7 for 50ft cat5e for connection to live, and $50 for 1yr of Gold Live+1 month free. Also have the VGA adapter coming for $18, to make where I play versatile for when the family wants the HDTV. That is all I have invested thus far.

I play on a 57" CRT RP HDTV and it gives me the warm fuzzies; I think this part of the experience is esoteric i.e. big screen HD owners, in that sitting across the room enjoying a huge display with HD instead of sitting in front of a monitor a couple feet away, that is, despite the awesome quality, never-the-less much smaller, quite simply, rocks.

OK, so my PC can give better eyecandy, somehow I just don't seem to give a shat, not overly critical I guess. I play FPS om my PC, the rest was done on my modded Xbox, and now new 360.

The 360 is like my modded Xbox on steriods, does all the multimedia stuff, can surf the net, can stream content off my PC, can be customized to personal taste, ect. Except this time MS is cool with it Having the original, the controller reduces the learning curve to almost zilch as well. My only real complaint so far is how noisey the optical drive is, I thought it was the fan at first, but my ear up close says optical drive.

Being able to download HD movie trailers and game demos is just one more value added feature IMO, and that is my entire opinion, it is a good value overall. I feel it was money well spent.

The old addage "If you want to play, you gotta pay." seems to me, a fitting synopsis for the 360. I simply can't do the PC v. 360/console comparison, since I intend to continue owning both, and playing titles on both. Subsequently, I can't point to any cost savings or such as justification or condemnation.

I'll conclude with this observation: Over the last couple years I have been pleasantly surprised with how much they have been able to leverage the original's hardware when it comes to graphics, and I expect the same to happen with the 360. IOW the best is yet to come, and we haven't seen everything this ATI GPU can provide yet.

-Mark

 

[Ricochet]

With so much gripe about the system, anybody willing to sell their 360 for cheap? When I say cheap I'm talking about at least $100 under retail. Unlike the early adopters I was gonna wait til price drop and more games come out. The killer app for me is going to be Phantasy Star Universe.

 

[MadPeriot]

I'll take a PS3 over 360.

 

[Staples]

Originally posted by: Sraaz
Yes, I did try it. Not only does my PC version look infinitely better, but the keyboard/mouse control scheme is so much better it isn't funny. Where's the motorcycles, boats, and planes in Saints Row? Hell GTA3 had boats...

I have trouble understanding why you bought one in the first place if you have such a bad ass PC to play games on.

As for me, I play almost everything on console nowdays because the PC is a huge money sink upgrading every 18 months and all the problems I run into just trying to get some games running correctly.

 

[The Mailman]

I like my Xbox 360

and i prefer every xbox controller (original, s, and 360) to the dual shock. the dualshock was ans is and will forever be overrated and cramps hands.

 

[The Mailman]

the 360 is worth it alone for sports games

i'm addicted to NHL07 right now

and Saints Row is a cheap GTA rip off? it may be a rip off but its nowhere near cheap. its better than any GTA released to date. its comments like this that seal the deal on this poster being a troll / PC fanboy

 

[The Mailman]

Originally posted by: CVSiN

as for Oblivion I think youre full of it.. sounds like a troll... the controls in oblivion were great as was the amazing detail and framerate on the console.. and the infinate+ of not being confined to a computer desk for the 200+ hours its gonna take me to finish it.

gonna have to disagree with you here. the 360 version of oblivion suffers from massive frame rate drops at times and loading that i've fallen asleep during.

but it is better playing on a couch than a comp desk

which is why my new pc will be a HTPC and ill play PC Oblivion on my bigscreen i win in every category!

 

[fire400]

the 360 is faster than your computer you newb

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: TrueBlueLS
So you're judging the system by one game? Go away you Sony fan boy.

From the way it sounded, he doesn't like any consoles and is a PC fan. Go away you MS fan boy.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy

Originally posted by: schneiderguy
wrong. dualshock >>> xbox controller

Not at all. The primary reason I refuse to play the PS2 is because of that controller. The N64 one is equally bad.

I have to disagree with you. I prefer the position of the joystick on the PS2's controller. I especially disliked the original version of the Xbox controller, does anyone remember the jokes about the size of the thing? If you've ever actually held the old version, it was uncomfortable. The new version isn't much better, but at least they made it a little smaller. WTF is with the buttons anyway? The little white ones look like crap.

And to the guy who couldn't understand X-Triangle-etc.... do you really have that much difficulty with patterns? It might take 15 minutes at most to figure out where the buttons are. It's no different than ABXY.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: bigdog1218

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Overall: 5/10 (Where PS2 is 5/10)


Comments on PSU: I've only ever seen one other hardware device that required a keyed power cable like that. It was a server drawing more than 10A. More likely this was a case where they just did that to prevent people from using normal cables when they inevitably roll over the one with a chair, but whatever. Also, it's bigger than my PS2 and gamecube combined. And that's just the power adapter.

Comments on controller: Better than the xbox original, better than the xbox S, worse than the Dualshock 2.

Comments on aesthetics: It still looks like an Apple product.

Comments on the graphics (Dead Rising or whatever that Zombie game is, plain 'ol TV, composite input): What in the name of god is everyone so excited about!?!? It looks JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER 3d game in the past few years. Sure, there's more ****** on the screen. Whoopty friggin' do. Even on an HDTV running at 1080p, it's only JUST BARELY drawing more pixels than my PC's video card was drawing in 1998. Thereby, the precision on the vector math can be turned waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down. Also, on a normal TV, the fvcking text is unreadable.

Comments on the game (That damned Zombie game): Unreadable text, somewhat fun, I'd play it through if they stuck it on a REAL gaming platform (PC) and not the bullshit kid's stuff.

Playing XBOX 360 on a standard TV and then bitching about it not looking good is like driving a Honda S2000 only in first gear and then complaining that it is slow as f&^k. If you don't have an HDTV, why the *&#$^ would you even bother?

And Dead Rising looks flippin' fantastic on our 32" HDTV.

As for the controller, it's MILES ahead of the Dual Shock controller and the analog sticks are perfectly placed.

Besides, this rant sounds like some sh!t that a high schooler would come up with. Play one game on a less than optimum TV, then complain like a little *****

So what you're saying is the 85% of American households that don't have HDTV shouldn't bother buying a 360. Sounds like a winning system to me.

People with HD will say all kinds of stupid crap to justify their purchase.

"It's necessary for the enjoyment of TV!"
"You can't play games without it!"
"Everybody has one!"

Yeah, I hate that.

1) There are few HD stations, and if you're getting basic cable then you won't have any of them
2) The best games look great at SD. By best games, I mean the super nintendo and dreamcast.
3) Almost no one actually owns one

And 4) Almost no one owns a HD movie player

 

[SmackAHobo]

Ok, all playstation lovers you can leave this convo immediatley, we all know that xbox is waaaaaaay better than PS2, both power wise, gfx wise and the controls absolutley just bend the dual shock over and r@pe it in the a**.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: NFS4
**SIGH**

I don't know what else to say. My head hurts.

Why, because the OP played a game on a SDTV? How many gamers do you suppose own HDTVs? I guarantee you that it's a minority.

Dead Rising's text is unreadable on a SDTV, and that's ridiculous IMO. Hopefully other game designers wise up and make games that you can play on any TV. I know, the OP was complaining about graphics, but theoretically it should look at least marginally better than a PS2 even if he's using an HDTV.

I'm not sure what else you have said. You keep repeating the same thing, "get a HDTV or get lost." Sorry, but that's a large investment that some of us can't afford at the drop of a hat. I can guess that a year from now, when console prices have all dropped, that significantly more people will own HDTVs. Deal with it.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: EyeMWing

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Overall: 5/10 (Where PS2 is 5/10)


Comments on PSU: I've only ever seen one other hardware device that required a keyed power cable like that. It was a server drawing more than 10A. More likely this was a case where they just did that to prevent people from using normal cables when they inevitably roll over the one with a chair, but whatever. Also, it's bigger than my PS2 and gamecube combined. And that's just the power adapter.

Comments on controller: Better than the xbox original, better than the xbox S, worse than the Dualshock 2.

Comments on aesthetics: It still looks like an Apple product.

Comments on the graphics (Dead Rising or whatever that Zombie game is, plain 'ol TV, composite input): What in the name of god is everyone so excited about!?!? It looks JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER 3d game in the past few years. Sure, there's more ****** on the screen. Whoopty friggin' do. Even on an HDTV running at 1080p, it's only JUST BARELY drawing more pixels than my PC's video card was drawing in 1998. Thereby, the precision on the vector math can be turned waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down. Also, on a normal TV, the fvcking text is unreadable.

Comments on the game (That damned Zombie game): Unreadable text, somewhat fun, I'd play it through if they stuck it on a REAL gaming platform (PC) and not the bullshit kid's stuff.

Playing XBOX 360 on a standard TV and then bitching about it not looking good is like driving a Honda S2000 only in first gear and then complaining that it is slow as f&^k. If you don't have an HDTV, why the *&#$^ would you even bother?

And Dead Rising looks flippin' fantastic on our 32" HDTV.

As for the controller, it's MILES ahead of the Dual Shock controller and the analog sticks are perfectly placed.

Besides, this rant sounds like some sh!t that a high schooler would come up with. Play one game on a less than optimum TV, then complain like a little *****

You guys forget that teenagers and early 20's make up a HUGE segment of the video game market. At HUNDREDS of dollars a unit, plus $60/game, you're already stretching that market's budget thin.

$2000 for a 1080p TV is completely above and beyond being even a part of the equation. $500 for an EDTV is even borderline.

actually your a bit wrong here too.. the gamer demographic is older now than you think.. and we have money to spend.

and why in the name of homers handgrenade are you adding in the cost of an HDTV to the price when you dont need one..

VGA cable set turns any monitor into HD with the 360 and everyone has a PC monitor..

also I use a 35 inch normal TV with componant input and I am more than happy with how it looks....
(i can read dead risings font just fine too its large enough and crystal clear)

Perhaps it's because the most common argument in the thread is "Oh, well you need a HDTV to play your xbox 360, you're an idiot if you don't have a HDTV too"

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Eeezee
"It's necessary for the enjoyment of TV!"
"You can't play games without it!"
"Everybody has one!"

Yeah, I hate that.

1) There are few HD stations, and if you're getting basic cable then you won't have any of them
Not true. You can use an antenna and get some over the air for free. Depending on the city, there can be broadcasts in double digits to choose from, and the PQ can be excellent too.

2) The best games look great at SD. By best games, I mean the super nintendo and dreamcast.
Purely a matter of opinion, since taste vary.

3) Almost no one actually owns one. The number increases all the time.

And 4) Almost no one owns a HD movie player

That includes me for the moment. Until they come down in price and there is more content, I'll wait. My upscan DVD player provides an excellent movie experience though. My home theater has cost the movie theaters 95% of my biz.[/quote]