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Lifer
Jun 22, 2004
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You shouldn't have ever invited her to live with you without laying out ground rules and payment plans. No ifs/ands/buts. If she agreed, I would have said no animals.

Fsck that ****** man, you were being walked on for free. I'd only let a very select few do that to me (so I could look up their skirts )
 

Shame

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Dec 28, 2001
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You could have just kicked the cat(s) and babies out, and not made it about her.
 

brandonb

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Oct 17, 2006
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Maybe I'm the odd one out of the bunch (maybe because I'm probably older than the typical ATOTer)

1) You knew she needed a place to live. If she had money, she would have just got her own apartment. So you knew she had nothing to give you. You let her move in anyways.

2) You knew she had a kid, with no father figure. Its likely you'd have to play temporary dad and have kids ****** in your way. Again. You let her move in anyways.

3) You knew she had a cat. You knew its going to claw things, piss on everything, as that's what animals do. Again. You let her move in anyways.

4) You knwe she had no car... You knew she'd probably have to borrow yours. Again. You let her move in anyways.

See a pattern?

The only person you have to blame is yourself! Instead of being a man, and accepting that fact, you decide to want to control this gal instead. Sure, maybe not aggressively, but in a passive aggressive way. "You owe me because I did this and I'm inconvienced and you offer me nothing." Thats not how friends interact with each other.

I can see why she is pissed. When you live in a place with friends, you both have to make compromises, and respect each other. To me it sounds like you told your friend that she has a room, and she has to live out of that room. If it was 2am and your friends were over smoking and she came charging out of her room. Apparently she was sleeping and looking out for the welfare of her child... Wouldn't you do the same thing in her place? Did you respect her or her kid? Apparently not... Then having your friends start ****** with her when she gets pissed. I'd be pissed too if I were her!

Grow up. Don't use the excuse "she paid me nothing..." You offered her a room in your place with no lease, no expectation of money, or anything else... You can't use that against her and use it as an excuse to disrespect her or her kid... If you don't like the arrangement, cancel it. Tell her that you feel restricted with her there, and her temporary stay is at an end, and she has 30 days to move out... But you still have to respect her until she moves out.
 

amdforever2

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Sep 19, 2002
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She could have kept her baby and cats from interfering with the rest of my space.


I agree to let her inconvenience me a little, you say thats a license for her to do whatever she wants brandonb?
 

amdforever2

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Sep 19, 2002
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BY THE WAY


There was an agreement for her to begin giving me money.

There was an agreement of all my rules.

She agreed to all of it.

ONE WEEK AFTER SHES IN

She starts to chip away at the rules with one psycho screaming argument after another.
 

iamwiz82

Lifer
Jan 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: amdforever2
BY THE WAY


There was an agreement for her to begin giving me money.

There was an agreement of all my rules.

She agreed to all of it.

ONE WEEK AFTER SHES IN

She starts to chip away at the rules with one psycho screaming argument after another.

OK, then week two her stuff would have been on the curb
 

jpeyton

Moderator in SFF, Notebooks, Pre-Built/Barebones
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Aug 23, 2003
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Did I put up with too much or am I the devil for doing it?
Neither. You're an idiot for allowing her to move in at all.
 

djheater

Lifer
Mar 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
BOBBY BUCHE, ROOM MATES ARE THE DEVILL!!!!


On a side note, you both sound like major as*holes. :thumbsdown:

Agreed.

I think OP just found out he's not nearly as charitable as he thought he was.

/thread.

 

Indolent

Platinum Member
Mar 7, 2003
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wow, I could have told you that you put up with too much after the first 4 lines, and your post just kept going!

Good for you that you finally got rid of her though.
 

brandonb

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Oct 17, 2006
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Originally posted by: amdforever2
She could have kept her baby and cats from interfering with the rest of my space.


I agree to let her inconvenience me a little, you say thats a license for her to do whatever she wants brandonb?

A license for what? Living? Letting her live outside a room? It sounds like you expected her to be stuck in there at all times of the day along with all her property and animals, etc... If you let her out of the room, that usually means the baby has to come too. But thats too much of an inconvience for you? Give me a break! You knew she had a baby when you agreed to let her move in. Just because you didn't like the baby's ****** outside of the room (naturally if she and her kid is out of the room the baby is going to have a crib or playpen or something else out of the room too. Along with baby junk.)

Living out of a room is going to drive anybody nuts. Apparently she was trying to comply with your wishes, but instead of meeting her half way, you have an attitude with her, smoke as you don't give a ****** about her or her kid, and have your friends slap drinks out of her hand...

To me, it sounds as if you created the "psycho screaming arguments after another" with her by treating her like crap. But the funny thing is... You put yourself into that position. Just buck up, be a man, and tell her to move out nicely that it didn't go as you expected and move on... Chock it up as a life lesson.

 

DainBramaged

Lifer
Jun 19, 2003
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She would have been out long ago. If she doesn't want smoke around her baby, talk to you in a reasonable way. If you decide you don't care, she can move the fvck out. Jesus, I can't believe that your friend took that much abuse.

Originally posted by: Amused
She was there rent free. In that case she has no right to be bitching about anything and, quite frankly, should have been blowing you nightly.

LMAO
 

iversonyin

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Aug 12, 2004
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In reading the whole page. I never read that you communicate to her clearly what you wanted. You guys never sit down and write down the rule. And you never seem to have ask her for rent.

You should've told her everything at the beginning. And told her that if she doesn't like it, she can leave. It would've save all these time, all the screaming and fussing.

But you have the right to kick her out, and she deserve it.
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
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You don't smoke around babies. Period. To do so is forcing the kid to smoke and inhale 2x the tar you do, which the kid cannot control. Yes it's her responsibility to provide a smoke-free environment, but don't take that out on the baby.

I'm not saying your life should revolve around the kid, but have some common decency. Don't sink to her level.

You already said you didn't care about the kid. Then WTF did you let her move in with said kid in the first place? To satisfy some cheapa$$ desire to be charitable? You may not be Stalin, and you put up with a lot, but you sound like an stupid (for not using foreknowledge of what her moving in was going to entail) insecure (sounds like you have some view of yourself as charitable, when you really don't give a sh!t) a$$hole (for general a$$holish behavior).

Granted, she sounds like a bipolar a$$hole for doing the sh!t she did.

On another note, I probably would've done the same to that cat

Your decision to kick her out is justified. Your method of doing it is not.

And your an idiot to have let her move in the first place.
 
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If she was like that from the start, I would have had her leave within a week of crashing at my place.
 

gotsmack

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Mar 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: brandonb
Maybe I'm the odd one out of the bunch (maybe because I'm probably older than the typical ATOTer)

1) You knew she needed a place to live. If she had money, she would have just got her own apartment. So you knew she had nothing to give you. You let her move in anyways.

2) You knew she had a kid, with no father figure. Its likely you'd have to play temporary dad and have kids ****** in your way. Again. You let her move in anyways.

3) You knew she had a cat. You knew its going to claw things, piss on everything, as that's what animals do. Again. You let her move in anyways.

4) You knwe she had no car... You knew she'd probably have to borrow yours. Again. You let her move in anyways.

See a pattern?

The only person you have to blame is yourself! Instead of being a man, and accepting that fact, you decide to want to control this gal instead. Sure, maybe not aggressively, but in a passive aggressive way. "You owe me because I did this and I'm inconvienced and you offer me nothing." Thats not how friends interact with each other.

I can see why she is pissed. When you live in a place with friends, you both have to make compromises, and respect each other. To me it sounds like you told your friend that she has a room, and she has to live out of that room. If it was 2am and your friends were over smoking and she came charging out of her room. Apparently she was sleeping and looking out for the welfare of her child... Wouldn't you do the same thing in her place? Did you respect her or her kid? Apparently not... Then having your friends start ****** with her when she gets pissed. I'd be pissed too if I were her!

Grow up. Don't use the excuse "she paid me nothing..." You offered her a room in your place with no lease, no expectation of money, or anything else... You can't use that against her and use it as an excuse to disrespect her or her kid... If you don't like the arrangement, cancel it. Tell her that you feel restricted with her there, and her temporary stay is at an end, and she has 30 days to move out... But you still have to respect her until she moves out.



Beggers can't be choosers
 

DainBramaged

Lifer
Jun 19, 2003
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Originally posted by: irishScott
To do so is forcing the kid to smoke and inhale 2x the tar you do, which the kid cannot control.

So, I'm safer to smoke firsthand than secondhand? Sweet, I'll go buy a pack.
 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
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Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: irishScott
To do so is forcing the kid to smoke and inhale 2x the tar you do, which the kid cannot control.

So, I'm safer to smoke firsthand than secondhand? Sweet, I'll go buy a pack.

yes
http://www.bchealthguide.org/healthfiles/hfile30a.stm

How dangerous is second-hand smoke?

Second-hand smoke is poisonous and has over 4000 chemicals, including 50 that can cause cancer. Breathing second-hand smoke can be more dangerous than inhaling smoke through a cigarette. It has twice as much nicotine and tar as the smoke that people smoking inhale and five times more carbon monoxide, a deadly gas that starves your body of oxygen.

Other chemicals found in second-hand smoke include:

* Benzo[a]pyrene found in coal tar, one of the most potent cancer-causing chemicals.
* Formaldehyde used to preserve dead animals.
* Hydrogen cyanide used in rat poison.
* Ammonia used to clean floors and toilets.

Each year in Canada, breathing second-hand smoke causes more than 1000 deaths among people who do not smoke, mainly from lung cancer and heart disease, and keeps many more from leading healthy lives.
 

Praxis1452

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Jan 31, 2006
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she should have talked to him in a calm manner which assuming from his description she did not. If she did however then the OP should have just told her to buy an air purifier and put it in her room or house. I mean if she's living free then she can atleast buy an air filter...
 

Shame

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Dec 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: irishScott
To do so is forcing the kid to smoke and inhale 2x the tar you do, which the kid cannot control.

So, I'm safer to smoke firsthand than secondhand? Sweet, I'll go buy a pack.

yes
http://www.bchealthguide.org/healthfiles/hfile30a.stm

How dangerous is second-hand smoke?

Second-hand smoke is poisonous and has over 4000 chemicals, including 50 that can cause cancer. Breathing second-hand smoke can be more dangerous than inhaling smoke through a cigarette. It has twice as much nicotine and tar as the smoke that people smoking inhale and five times more carbon monoxide, a deadly gas that starves your body of oxygen.

Other chemicals found in second-hand smoke include:

* Benzo[a]pyrene found in coal tar, one of the most potent cancer-causing chemicals.
* Formaldehyde used to preserve dead animals.
* Hydrogen cyanide used in rat poison.
* Ammonia used to clean floors and toilets.

Each year in Canada, breathing second-hand smoke causes more than 1000 deaths among people who do not smoke, mainly from lung cancer and heart disease, and keeps many more from leading healthy lives.

So which one is it?

A. Smoking protects the smoker from second hand smoke?
B. The above reference doesn't include both types of smoke for the smoker?
 

DainBramaged

Lifer
Jun 19, 2003
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Originally posted by: Shame
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: irishScott
To do so is forcing the kid to smoke and inhale 2x the tar you do, which the kid cannot control.

So, I'm safer to smoke firsthand than secondhand? Sweet, I'll go buy a pack.

yes
http://www.bchealthguide.org/healthfiles/hfile30a.stm

How dangerous is second-hand smoke?

Second-hand smoke is poisonous and has over 4000 chemicals, including 50 that can cause cancer. Breathing second-hand smoke can be more dangerous than inhaling smoke through a cigarette. It has twice as much nicotine and tar as the smoke that people smoking inhale and five times more carbon monoxide, a deadly gas that starves your body of oxygen.

Other chemicals found in second-hand smoke include:

* Benzo[a]pyrene found in coal tar, one of the most potent cancer-causing chemicals.
* Formaldehyde used to preserve dead animals.
* Hydrogen cyanide used in rat poison.
* Ammonia used to clean floors and toilets.

Each year in Canada, breathing second-hand smoke causes more than 1000 deaths among people who do not smoke, mainly from lung cancer and heart disease, and keeps many more from leading healthy lives.

So which one is it?

A. Smoking protects the smoker from second hand smoke?
B. The above reference doesn't include both types of smoke for the smoker?


I was at first going crazy trying to figure out who would publish such facts but then I saw it was the Canadian govt. and not to be trusted. :laugh:
 

hjo3

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May 22, 2003
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You're right -- she's a huge bitch. But you should have seen this coming. Here's hoping she does the right thing and gives the baby up for adoption...
 

Q

Lifer
Jul 21, 2005
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I didn't read it all, but from first few lines, I think you did right thing
 
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