So I may have killed my friend's kitten today...

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NicePants42

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Originally posted by: skreet
Can we get an age range, out of curiosity? I'd like to know the maturity level of who we're dealing with here OP and girl.

Originally posted by: veggz
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Again, legally you would lose, and that is really all that matters. If you won't pay at least half, she could easily sue you in small claims... all your obnoxious comments won't be worth a damn there : ). Better yet, I'd love for you to make a fool out of yourself on Judge Judy!
Shadow, you come in here guns blazing spamming your propaganda like no tomorrow and yet you accuse me of being obnoxious? Please son...

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Originally posted by: veggz
Backstory: I had invited a whole bunch of people to hang out at my condo

Probably on a semester co-op - a condo appears to be 'big doins' among his peers (hence he calls it 'my condo' instead of 'my place', and the party's there as apposed to somewhere else). I'd say 19-24, (maybe he really owns it). Judging by some of his posts, I'm leaning 20.

Originally posted by: veggz
Now, the girl wants me to pay her (she hasn't said how much) and is majorly pissed off.

Update: Clover is dead. The girl just sent me a fax with a picture of the kitten and a message generously strewn with obscenities. I think she is going crazy.

Everyone agrees the chick is a box of rocks, so this is probably her first kitten, meaning she hasn't been out of her parents house for that long. I'm thinking a recent addition to a sorority house, or just moved off-campus. 19 is my guess.
 

dfi

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Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: dfi

Simple question, are pets property? I feel like I keep asking this basic question, without a clear response one way or the other. Do you consider your pet to be your companion and your property? If so, does this contradict the original quote that sentient beings are not property?

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It's simple: My pets are not my property. They're my friends, my companions, they're non-human sentients which share my home with me. I take care of them and look after them, because they aren't fully capable of doing it themselves in this world of humans. If somebody harmed or killed them, I would go after that person with the full wrath of somebody who's human loved ones had been harmed or killed.

My pets are not property, which is why I told the state of West Virginia to go fvck itself when they tried to charge me personal property taxes for my dogs.

I think that there is the general concept among people that you "own" your pet, but your pet is not property. Seems like an interest dichotomy to me.

Interesting that you think your pets would not be able to take care of themselves. Most likely not in the human world, but in the animal world/wild, I wonder if domesticated animals would do just fine if placed there at a young age. Are all animals incapable of taking care of themselves and need human intervention, or only certain ones? How is this determination made? Is it based on intelligence? What is the benchmark?
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: dfi

Ok, forget the word slavery. Too many connotations and history that people can't seem to part with. I wonder if slavery is a term that can only be applied to humans, but that's another discussion.

Simple question, are pets property? I feel like I keep asking this basic question, without a clear response one way or the other. Do you consider your pet to be your companion and your property? If so, does this contradict the original quote that sentient beings are not property?

Btw, what "discovery" or "enlightenment" are you talking about? And I'm not sure how PETA enters the equation; I believe they are ok with people owning pets, yes? I googled your words can the first link was mostly related to animals being used in entertainment, which is something PETA stands against per their website. I didn't see anything about pets though.

Also, I'm not a member of PETA or affiliate with them in any ways. I personally own a pet as well, and love eating meat. I'm not sure where you were going - perhaps trying to discredit my questions by associating me with PETA?

The google reference is about slavery and owning pets.

Regardless of this...you will have people in many groups...those that think nothing of a pet then an expedible...those that use it as merely a social climber, those that see it as family, etc

With cats it's different as too many are hands off owners...just let them roam.

My cats are indoors only...I come home they come to me...I say certain things they react.

 

Turin39789

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You are responsible for your actions, end of story. The rest of your story is entirely irrelevant.

You walked down stairs, drunk as hell or not, and stepped on a kitten, killing it.

Stop making excuses and man up.
 

bacon333

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If you bring a small kitten to a large party...you're just asking for it to be stomped on. Trust me, I know.
 
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