So I paid $60 for a x800xl

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gspointer

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Originally posted by: dbleoslow
Originally posted by: skarydrunkguy
That is considered retail fraud 1st degree, which is a felony, if you were aware of the mislabeled product before the purchase, which you clearly were. I would not, if I were you, be bragging about committing crimes on a message board. Just so you know.

I prefer to get all my legal advice from someone named "skarydrunkguy"


oops!, I meant over this! ^^^^^
 

yingyan

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i don't think it is right!!
I know best buy scan the upc code!!x8ooxl won't have 9000 upc code!
unless you lie at counter otherwise won't work!
you can't change upc code!!
 

tvbi

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Mar 2, 2005
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All their graphic cards have this little sticker stuck on the wrap with their own store upc.. the one I got had the wrong sticker. Obviously the cashier didn't have a clue about video cards and didn't care to check the scanned item matches with the box.
 

Triggerhappy007

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Return the the x800xl and tell them you got ripped off. You paid for a 9200 which is 11.5 times better than an 800.
 

dirtrat

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Last time I checked stores scanned barcodes on the boxes for prices, not stickers!

 

IBUYCHEAP

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Originally posted by: robertsmith
Originally posted by: skarydrunkguy
That is considered retail fraud 1st degree, which is a felony, if you were aware of the mislabeled product before the purchase, which you clearly were. I would not, if I were you, be bragging about committing crimes on a message board. Just so you know.


What a bunch for billshut. In Michigan, just to give you an example, the legal provisions are as follows: RETAIL FRAUD [MCL 750.356c & .356d] Stealing merchandise (items offered for sale to the public) while the store is open for business, "price switching", or trying to get a fraudulent refund from a store. Retail Fraud is a theft crime requiring proof that the item was taken intentionally (not accidentally), with the intent to steal.

It appears that no intent to defraud the business was present. tvbi may have had a legal duty to alert the store that a much higher priced good was unintentionally sold to him, which would have given tvbi the choice of using the item and paying the store the difference between the paid price and the reasonable price for the item, or of making the item available to the store for pickup and a refund of the original purchase price.

However, since tvbi is no expert, he has no duty to inspect the purchased item beyond an outside look at the item. Heck, I couldn't tell, AGP, PCI-E, ISA, whatever... who knows, right, guys? And isn't that a videocard for a MAC anyways, correct?

There is nothing best buy can do about this they agreed to this transaction for whatever was exchanged. A good example of this would be the grocery store who accepted the novelty bill with George W Bush's head on it in exchange for cash and of course groceries. Both of these are legal exchanges because both parties were willing participants. At any point in time if the cashiers weren't so stupid they could of refused to sell it.
 

skarydrunkguy

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Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: skarydrunkguy
That is considered retail fraud 1st degree, which is a felony, if you were aware of the mislabeled product before the purchase, which you clearly were. I would not, if I were you, be bragging about committing crimes on a message board. Just so you know.

Unless OP intentionally switched the labels, there is no "felony". Just like there is no "retail fraud" of any degree.

Please stay away from the law schools, there are smarter people out there who need to get in.


PWNAGE!

PS: anyMal is correct

anyMal is not correct. Just because he didn't switch the labels doesn't mean he was not attempting to defraud the store. If that were the case, I would have my friends go into the store ahead of me and switch the labels on everything I wanted to buy and it wouldn't be retail fraud because I didn't switch the labels and my friend didn't buy it. And as for the crap about it being a 'willing transaction on both parts,' that is also not true. There is something called good faith transactions, in which both parties and under the 'assumption' that each is not trying to defraud the other. If, even after the fact, the transaction was found to be fraudulent in any way, there is easy recourse for either party... hence phone scams and door to door scam artists. Even if some old lady willingly gives somebody $2000 for roof repairs which are done in a manner not described by the purveyor, the transaction is void. Not that I'm saying that BestBuy is going to read this board and prosecute or anything, even though it is within their right to do so, I was merely suggesting that he not brag about it so that people of lesser moral values don't attempt to do the same thing he did and end up with criminal records (not that they wouldn't deserve them). Also, for the record, I am not a lawyer nor have I ever been to or even considered going to law school, I just thought that I was offering some helpful advice to a fellow bargain hunter in the merits of not advertising criminal activity.
 

skarydrunkguy

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Originally posted by: robertsmith
Originally posted by: skarydrunkguy
That is considered retail fraud 1st degree, which is a felony, if you were aware of the mislabeled product before the purchase, which you clearly were. I would not, if I were you, be bragging about committing crimes on a message board. Just so you know.


What a bunch for billshut. In Michigan, just to give you an example, the legal provisions are as follows: RETAIL FRAUD [MCL 750.356c & .356d] Stealing merchandise (items offered for sale to the public) while the store is open for business, "price switching", or trying to get a fraudulent refund from a store. Retail Fraud is a theft crime requiring proof that the item was taken intentionally (not accidentally), with the intent to steal.

It appears that no intent to defraud the business was present. tvbi may have had a legal duty to alert the store that a much higher priced good was unintentionally sold to him, which would have given tvbi the choice of using the item and paying the store the difference between the paid price and the reasonable price for the item, or of making the item available to the store for pickup and a refund of the original purchase price.

However, since tvbi is no expert, he has no duty to inspect the purchased item beyond an outside look at the item. Heck, I couldn't tell, AGP, PCI-E, ISA, whatever... who knows, right, guys? And isn't that a videocard for a MAC anyways, correct?

I would disagree. He clearly stated in his first post that he noticed that an expensive video card was mislabeled as an inexpensive video card. He then proceeded to attempt to purchase the video card with the clear intention of getting something for a much lower price than he should have. Not that I'm a lawyer or anything, but it seems to me that there was a clear intention to defraud the store even if it was purely opportunistic and not 'pre-meditated.' Its no better than keeping the excess money that an ATM accidentally shoots out at you. You have an obligation to return it to the bank just like he had a obligation to point out the error to a store employee.
 

skarydrunkguy

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May 18, 2003
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There is nothing best buy can do about this they agreed to this transaction for whatever was exchanged. A good example of this would be the grocery store who accepted the novelty bill with George W Bush's head on it in exchange for cash and of course groceries. Both of these are legal exchanges because both parties were willing participants. At any point in time if the cashiers weren't so stupid they could of refused to sell it.

I hope everyone here realizes how incredibly stupid this statement is.
 

Glendor

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Originally posted by: carpenter
Nice find. Hope their inventory doesn't come up short. Or they trace it to your bedroom with that new code they put in high end video cards. Just peek out the window before you answer the door. You should be OK.

Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!
 

Devistater

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Originally posted by: skarydrunkguy
There is nothing best buy can do about this they agreed to this transaction for whatever was exchanged. A good example of this would be the grocery store who accepted the novelty bill with George W Bush's head on it in exchange for cash and of course groceries. Both of these are legal exchanges because both parties were willing participants. At any point in time if the cashiers weren't so stupid they could of refused to sell it.

I hope everyone here realizes how incredibly stupid this statement is.

Yeah, last time I checked it was a federal crime to pay with counterfeit money. Which is what that would be if you tried to buy something with it.
 

BrokenVisage

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Originally posted by: Glendor
Originally posted by: carpenter
Nice find. Hope their inventory doesn't come up short. Or they trace it to your bedroom with that new code they put in high end video cards. Just peek out the window before you answer the door. You should be OK.

Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

:laugh:
 
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