I was talking about buying. That S5 at nearly half the price of the iP6 is a much better deal. At 16gb each they are both borderline unusable but at least with the S5 you can slap in 200gb of extra storage.
No, we were talking about resale value, and the repeated claims that Android flagship phones retained their value, I disagreed, gave real world prices to back it up.
"Deal" is relative, to me, an S6 is a non starter, I'm done with Samsung phones. If they'd left the removeable battery and expandable memory in at least one variant of the Note, I'd still be on board, heck, I've got a 3 and a 4 I need to list on Swappa.
FWIW Apple is always near the top of the heap in battery life tests if not the top here on Anandtech reviews. I think you can objectively say they have very good battery life.
If Anandtech were open about their testing specifics and allowed the community to perform identical testing perhaps I could then see why their numbers never seem to match what I experience in real life.
My work issued 6 Plus has satisfactory battery life, but it's definitely not top of the heap. My battery life was better on the Note 4 (and 5) without question, and those two had Google Now running on them as well.
What iOS devices excel at is standby battery life. Hopefully with Android 6.0 we see similar performance with Doze.
If you actually use the iPhone it runs out of juice much faster than the typical Android flagship like S5 and S6. In fact the S6 has extremely good battery life once debloated. I am on S6 debloated and my wife is on 6S. She is always charging her phone.
If you actually use the iPhone it runs out of juice much faster than the typical Android flagship like S5 and S6. In fact the S6 has extremely good battery life once debloated. I am on S6 debloated and my wife is on 6S. She is always charging her phone.
If you actually use the iPhone it runs out of juice much faster than the typical Android flagship like S5 and S6. In fact the S6 has extremely good battery life once debloated. I am on S6 debloated and my wife is on 6S. She is always charging her phone.
Probably because she is constantly on it.
Exactly my point. Anyone can claim iPhone has better battery life or vice versa because his gf, roommate or dog is always charging instead of their favorite phone. It varies wildly depending usage, knowledge, and other variables.Probably because she is constantly on it.
Exactly my point. Anyone can claim iPhone has better battery life or vice versa because his gf, roommate or dog is always charging instead of their favorite phone. It varies wildly depending usage, knowledge, and other variables.
Nah, I haven't put stock in bench marks for years. Don't trust Samsung cause they cheated. Neither do I trust anyone else. I take it with a grain if salt. Look at VW now. Real World experience is all that matters to me. I spent my upgrade on an S6 because of the camera experience and ability to bypass Verzon tether provision. I would have bought iPhone if it had better camera or did what I needed. All I care about is whether I can have my phone with decent battery life, even if I have to root and wait to update. I don't care whether millions others can't get through a day without charging. There are plenty of us on XDA enjoying our S6 with long battery life.so...good thing we have benchmarks?
so...good thing we have benchmarks?
Gsmarena has the s6 battery rated higher than iPhone 6, just saying since you're taking benchmarks as gospel and all.
Hell, I like android, just s6 edge costing flagships simply don't make sense at the $800 level anymore..
then post it.
Actually you have it backwards. The extra costs of doing it right and supporting users is what is dragging down the HTCs of the world who promise updates to year plus old phones like the M8. OnePlus with its "you won't get any domestic support and at that price we hope you expect it" model is what is eating everyone's lunch. The up and coming Chinese companies don't even pretend to update their devices.
If anything the market is showing it wants LESS emphasis on updates, LESS emphasis on long-term support if that raises the purchase price even a little bit (which it has to). Just like with Windows PCs the margin for user support doesn't exist.
Don't get me wrong. There will always be huge subset of Android users and OEMs that revolve around bargain priced devices who can care less about updates because they are cheap to replace or they want a basic phone just that works. And more power to them.
My point is Android OEMs who sell premium priced devices other than hardware differentiation has to value add with long term commitment to speedy updates or they will lose even more consumers to the former camp especially with the nature of the inherently broken update model and increasing hardware commoditization all around.
Don't get me wrong. There will always be huge subset of Android users and OEMs that revolve around bargain priced devices who can care less about updates because they are cheap to replace or they want a basic phone just that works. And more power to them.
My point is Android OEMs who sell premium priced devices other than hardware differentiation has to value add with long term commitment to speedy updates or they will lose even more consumers to the former camp especially with the nature of the inherently broken update model and increasing hardware commoditization all around.
I think there's no going back. The cheap, new version every 6 months model has won on android (mostly Chinese and India's fault). Samsung's the only one with the power to change that, but they don't seem to have an incentive to do so. I'm putting money on samsung going all in on tizen sooner or later, maybe updates will be faster then.
It would actually be really cool if LG went WebOs. I may be an apple fanboy now, but man did I like Palm, and think web os with modern hardware could be very slick
Samsung will love to have OS-level differentiation with Tizen but their software side of things is a complete joke and they know it. Then they tried their own exclusive app store on Android for app-level differentiation and that failed for the same obvious reasons. Now they are trying to copy Apple's custom ARM strategy which at least somewhat play into their usual core competencies but the payoff is still a big question mark.
Nice price, wow
You know, I've been obsessing about the flaws of the s6 edge and, battery life aside, the issues are almost all software and lack of proper testing. I *don't* want apple to be the only company that gets this right, but it's frustrating that these billion dollar companies are not investing in the right things.
Apple's model seems so easy to replicate: instead of a revolution every version, refine what you have and then slowly add features after they're tested properly. It's shocking how many "features" from th galaxy s5 (hand scrolling, eye scrolling, etc.) were REMOVED in the s6 because they didn't work right, and kinda shocking they came up with this edge screen yet didn't put any thought into it's functionality (it does nothing that can't be replicated by app store widgets).
Heck, bluetooth doesn't work right between my car and the samsung, forum nerds will blame the stereosystem and not the phone, but I'm tired of everything being everyone but samsung's fault. Iinductive charging slow? must be the qi pad you bought! bluetooth iffy? pioneer's fault! battery sucks? You're using it too much! So many loyalists muddying the water instead of being honest. My wife's iphone connects to every bluetooth receiver in the house and car, probably because apple got bluetooth right generations ago and decided to not mess with it, samsung probably sources the cheapest bluetooth chip they could find then didn't test it properly with various configurations.
Serious question here, but if the iphone does everything you want perfectly why aren't you using one? It sounds like the hit you'd take from switching over would be worth it considering how pissed off you sound about the whole thing.