So I'm watching star wars...

monkey333

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Episode 4 on spike. Towards the end, Porkins is being pursued, and his wing leader tells him to eject? And then of course he dies...
 

monkey333

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I would think there would be some sort of rule that if he can't buckle the chin strap, he doesn't fly...
 

DaveSimmons

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I enjoyed Star Wars, but Lucas is one of the laziest world-builders ever.

"Le's see, I'll name the ocean race calamari. Girl I want to sleep with . . . Leia. Fat guy, uh, . . . Porkins!"
 

monkey333

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What bothers me is, porkins aside, is he told him to eject into the vacuum of space...
 

Newbian

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What bothers me is, porkins aside, is he told him to eject into the vacuum of space...

It's a life capsule type thing they are in so how is it wrong when the ship itself was the reason of the explosion?
 

mmntech

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What bothers me is, porkins aside, is he told him to eject into the vacuum of space...

Even if he did have a sealed flight suit like the TIE pilots, what would his options be? Slowly freeze/starve to death in the vacuum of space, or get vaporized by the Death Star exploding. Seems like the Alliance has lax recruiting standards for both intelligence and physical fitness. Hell, they even made Han a general while he was frozen. He didn't even do much before then. It's a miracle they won the war!
 

monkey333

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Even if he did have a sealed flight suit like the TIE pilots, what would his options be? Slowly freeze/starve to death in the vacuum of space, or get vaporized by the Death Star exploding. Seems like the Alliance has lax recruiting standards for both intelligence and physical fitness. Hell, they even made Han a general while he was frozen. He didn't even do much before then. It's a miracle they won the war!

You have some valid points there...
 

guyver01

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What bothers me is, porkins aside, is he told him to eject into the vacuum of space...

It's obvious that there is a breathable atmosphere inside the Death Star but what you don't really get from the movie is that this same breathable atmosphere surrounds the outside of the Death Star like a natural planet and that's why the docking bay in which the Millennium Falcon was grappled into doesn't have a door or whatever.

This atmosphere is generated and held together by a magnetic field and in "Star Wars" the rebel pilot are passing through the edge of the Death Star's atmosphere and the vacuum of space when Red Leader tells them to switch their shields to double front.

If you understand that then it makes sense why Biggs tell Porkins to eject right before Porkins bites down.
 

kami333

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X-wing pilot suits had a personal life support system that utilizes a magnetic containment field (like the ones used in fighter bays) to keep a bubble of breathable air around the ejected pilot. I think pilots were supposed to be able to survive for 30minutes or something before they freeze to death or run out of air. In the beginning of the book "Truce at Bakura", Wedge Antilles goes spacewalking in his pilot suit in order to prevent a message drone from self-destructing and is saved by Luke just before he freezes to death. I don't think I ever figured out what the Rebellion/New Republic used as a rescue shuttle but the Lambda class shuttles could be fitted with a personnel tractor beam to pick up ejected pilots (but TIE fighter pilots couldn't eject?). Supposedly the intergalactic rules of war (like the Geneva Conventions) say that both sides are supposed to rescue ejected pilots regardless of alliance but I don't think the Empire did since they didn't consider the Rebellion a legitimate enemy.

As for Han's commission, part of it can be explained by his work for the Rebellion before episode 4 and in between episode 4 and 5, where he rescues people, finds treasures, etc but a lot of it is filling in the holes after the fact since the those books are newer.

Yes, the Star Wars universe is messy and there's a lot of contradictions. It's fiction, just sit back and enjoy the story.
 

kami333

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It's obvious that there is a breathable atmosphere inside the Death Star but what you don't really get from the movie is that this same breathable atmosphere surrounds the outside of the Death Star like a natural planet and that's why the docking bay in which the Millennium Falcon was grappled into doesn't have a door or whatever.

This atmosphere is generated and held together by a magnetic field and in "Star Wars" the rebel pilot are passing through the edge of the Death Star's atmosphere and the vacuum of space when Red Leader tells them to switch their shields to double front.

If you understand that then it makes sense why Biggs tell Porkins to eject right before Porkins bites down.

I was under the impression that the magnetic field around the Death Star was just a byproduct of its size and not intentional. The docking bay has its own magnetic field, when they are tractoring in the Falcon there's a voice that says that they are opening the magnetic field.
 

manimal

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all the extra layers of fat on porkins created its own magnetic field which was boosted by the suit.

All the fried chicken and fries were needed to create energy for the suit.


So basically the fatter you were the longer you would last in space...
 

zinfamous

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Even if he did have a sealed flight suit like the TIE pilots, what would his options be? Slowly freeze/starve to death in the vacuum of space, or get vaporized by the Death Star exploding. Seems like the Alliance has lax recruiting standards for both intelligence and physical fitness. Hell, they even made Han a general while he was frozen. He didn't even do much before then. It's a miracle they won the war!

the fuck?? I never even thought of that, either.

 
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