So, is the iPOD still the top mp3 player?

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Looney

Lifer
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Originally posted by: AWhackWhiteBoy
Originally posted by: Hardcore
Originally posted by: Phooey
iPods are cool, but they aren't perfect.

See ipodsdirtysecret.com.

I'm still sporting around a 128MB Rio 500, but I'll probably upgrade to an iPod if/when it dies.

LOLOL nice video.

THEY OFFER BATTERY REPLACEMENT. the person that made that site should take it down.

But thanks to people like him, Apple probably would never have offered battery replacement in the first place. So no, he shouldn't take it down.
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: Phooey
iPods are cool, but they aren't perfect.

See ipodsdirtysecret.com.

I'm still sporting around a 128MB Rio 500, but I'll probably upgrade to an iPod if/when it dies.


freakin out of date are u. ipodbattery.com and other such sites sell u battery replacements and kits. and theres also the send back method
 

AWhackWhiteBoy

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Mar 3, 2004
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Originally posted by: Hardcore

But thanks to people like him, Apple probably would never have offered battery replacement in the first place. So no, he shouldn't take it down.

before that was even made websites offered battery replacements for even cheaper than what apple offered,and it didn't void the warranty. apple merely offers it now too.
 

PizzaDude

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Jan 12, 2002
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Originally posted by: ViRGE
Originally posted by: Phooey
iPods are cool, but they aren't perfect.

See ipodsdirtysecret.com.

I'm still sporting around a 128MB Rio 500, but I'll probably upgrade to an iPod if/when it dies.
*grabs a 2x4 and swings*

For the last time: Apple has a battery replacement program if the worst does happen, and you can even get an extended warranty for less than that.

rofl @ *grabs a 2x4 and swings*
 

SickBeast

Lifer
Jul 21, 2000
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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
I'd love to have a player with native FLAC support, but right now it doesn't seem like a safe buy without at least a year extended warranty.

The iPod actually plays "FLAC" files in the form of their "Apple Lossless" compression algorhythm. I realize that this is not FLAC, but it essentially does the same thing; all you would need to do is re-convert your collection.

Some of my collection is in this format and it sounds great. You don't take a huge hit in battery life, either.

By the way, the people posting that the iPod only lasts 5-6 hours must not own one. I always get near the 8-hour mark with mine. With lossless, it apparently drops down to 6 hours or so.

Someone posted the the iRiver players are "nigh perfect" which I will highly disagree with. Granted, the hardware design is superior, and you get more features for the money. What's the point, though, if it's difficult to access your music collection? On top of that, the iRiver players are considerably thicker than the iPod, and to put the industrial design of those things on the same level as the iPod is ridiculous IMO.

In any event, the iPod remains unmatched, surprisingly enough. In all this time, nobody has managed to outdo them. Apparently Apple has something waiting in the labs to be released when someone does though.
 

BD231

Lifer
Feb 26, 2001
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I-Pod is a rip off if you ask me. A friend of mine owns one and to be honest I prefer my Dell MP3 (15gig) player because it gets louder than the I-Pod and handles bass better.

Just my opinion though, I'm a stickler about audio quality and the I-Pod only got loud with those inner ear head phones, YUK.
 

GTaudiophile

Lifer
Oct 24, 2000
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iPod is great, but I decided I need something with expandable solid-state storage. I bought a RIO Cali 256 and bought a 512MB SD card.

Plenty for my needs! (It's also small, rugged, has an FM Tuner, and ~18 hour battery life with one standard AAA battery.)
 

CSMR

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Apr 24, 2004
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A stickler about the audio quality "loudness" maybe.
The ipod's audio is above average. If you're going to spend such a lot on a player you may as well get decent headphones and an amp. (You can get very small amps btw).
 

Relayer

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Oct 30, 1999
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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
I'd love to have a player with native FLAC support, but right now it doesn't seem like a safe buy without at least a year extended warranty.

The iPod actually plays "FLAC" files in the form of their "Apple Lossless" compression algorhythm. I realize that this is not FLAC, but it essentially does the same thing; all you would need to do is re-convert your collection.

Some of my collection is in this format and it sounds great. You don't take a huge hit in battery life, either.

By the way, the people posting that the iPod only lasts 5-6 hours must not own one. I always get near the 8-hour mark with mine. With lossless, it apparently drops down to 6 hours or so.

Someone posted the the iRiver players are "nigh perfect" which I will highly disagree with. Granted, the hardware design is superior, and you get more features for the money. What's the point, though, if it's difficult to access your music collection? On top of that, the iRiver players are considerably thicker than the iPod, and to put the industrial design of those things on the same level as the iPod is ridiculous IMO.

In any event, the iPod remains unmatched, surprisingly enough. In all this time, nobody has managed to outdo them. Apparently Apple has something waiting in the labs to be released when someone does though.


hmmm, Apple Lossless does not appear to work on 2nd gen iPod.
 

nortexoid

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i have a 3G iPod. it's good, but no matter what anybody says, the battery life, even at max. capacity of 8hrs new, is dismal. the thing is damn cool tho. another thing i hate, however, are the touch sensitive buttons. the touch sensitive scroll wheel is nice - buttons are not.

if i were u, i'd go either with Creative's Zen Touch (available only for preorder now), or if 4GB is enough storage for u, the iPod Mini
 

SickBeast

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Relayer
Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
I'd love to have a player with native FLAC support, but right now it doesn't seem like a safe buy without at least a year extended warranty.

The iPod actually plays "FLAC" files in the form of their "Apple Lossless" compression algorhythm. I realize that this is not FLAC, but it essentially does the same thing; all you would need to do is re-convert your collection.

Some of my collection is in this format and it sounds great. You don't take a huge hit in battery life, either.

By the way, the people posting that the iPod only lasts 5-6 hours must not own one. I always get near the 8-hour mark with mine. With lossless, it apparently drops down to 6 hours or so.

Someone posted the the iRiver players are "nigh perfect" which I will highly disagree with. Granted, the hardware design is superior, and you get more features for the money. What's the point, though, if it's difficult to access your music collection? On top of that, the iRiver players are considerably thicker than the iPod, and to put the industrial design of those things on the same level as the iPod is ridiculous IMO.

In any event, the iPod remains unmatched, surprisingly enough. In all this time, nobody has managed to outdo them. Apparently Apple has something waiting in the labs to be released when someone does though.


hmmm, Apple Lossless does not appear to work on 2nd gen iPod.

That may be. The 2nd gen ipod has a different "CPU" in it, so that's probably why.
 

SgtBuddy

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I got a 20GB iPod yesterday at the Elmendor BX ($389 tax free). Very nice unit. I mulled over the iRiver, Karma, and Zen.

The iPod won me over for

iTunes. it rocks
AAC. it rocks
interface. yep, it rocks
 

WackyDan

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Originally posted by: AWhackWhiteBoy
Originally posted by: Hardcore
Originally posted by: Phooey
iPods are cool, but they aren't perfect.

See ipodsdirtysecret.com.

I'm still sporting around a 128MB Rio 500, but I'll probably upgrade to an iPod if/when it dies.

LOLOL nice video.

THEY OFFER BATTERY REPLACEMENT. the person that made that site should take it down.

Which you shouldn't have to worry about in the first place.
 

WackyDan

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Jan 26, 2004
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Oh... and I bought the iRiver 20gig.... Not for nothing, I'll put my iRiver up against an iPod anyday. Both are excellent products in their own right.... But the iRiver sports some features I wanted that the iPod didn't have and was cheaper, and didn't require that software be installed in order to populate the device with MP3's

Unlike the iPod that requires you load a software interface (iTunes)... which is also their means of making/having/suggesting that you buy music through their service.
 

vegetation

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Feb 21, 2001
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Unlike the iPod that requires you load a software interface (iTunes)... which is also their means of making/having/suggesting that you buy music through their service.

itunes is certainly not required with the ipod.
 

Lyfer

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Ipods are freaking expensive. You can get a refurbed Dell DJ 15GB from dell's outlet store for $152 shipped. Thats $98 less than the Ipod mini. Unless you really must have the Ipod UI's and design and are willing to pay the hefty premium, go for it. (I would too if $$$ was not a problem)
 

Gurck

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Mar 16, 2004
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This is why iPods are so popular at ATOT. Spending your parents' money is a lot different than spending your own. On top of that, they have low battery life. Get an iRiver.
 

AWhackWhiteBoy

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Originally posted by: WackyDan
Which you shouldn't have to worry about in the first place.

if they made the battery a do it yourself thing they would have had to make the ipod bigger(and a less durable and solid design), and people would have complained about that instead. or they could sent out batteries and let morons fumble around inside their ipods themselves,break it,then send it back to apple for a new one.
 

WackyDan

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Jan 26, 2004
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Originally posted by: vegetation
Unlike the iPod that requires you load a software interface (iTunes)... which is also their means of making/having/suggesting that you buy music through their service.

itunes is certainly not required with the ipod.

Last I knew it was unless you ran a open source software for it or ran an od version of music match. -Which both are software.....So same story there.

The only way to drag and drop MP3's onto an iPod (*using the file manager in windows) is by either hacking the iPod and unmasking/hiding the music "playback" folder.... Which requires OSX or requires you to hack it via a linux install and that is overly complicated as well.

I'll stand corrected if this isn't the case anymore but as of 5-6 months ago it still was.
 

Wiktor

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"That may be. The 2nd gen ipod has a different "CPU" in it, so that's probably why."
--SickBeast

What's that supposed to mean? Looks like you don't even know much about the ipods...


Here read and learn.

Reason why older ipods don't get new firmware: apple decision.

Saying that iHP is "considerably thicker than the iPod" is a bit much too. Nothing to consider here, both fit just as good in a pocket.




Another thing is that iHP uses Toshibe 1.8" drive, not Hitachi.
 

nortexoid

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Last I knew it was unless you ran a open source software for it or ran an od version of music match. -Which both are software.....So same story there.

well u're most definitely wrong. there's actually a winamp plug-in that gives u pretty much the exact same functionality as iTunes. it allows you to sync music, playlists, make smart playlists, and so on.

you can manage music using your winamp library, and that's not even necessary.
 
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