So it looks like Saddam did have WMD's after all

[BrownTown]

There are so many things wrong with this "article" its not even funny. I stopped reading after it suggested they Syrians were combining Plutonium and HEU to make dirty bombs, thats the dumbest idea ever, those elements are PERFECT for making fission bombs, they SUCK at making dirty bombs, not nearly as radioactive as alot of other elements, but pretty much the hardest things in the entire world to procure. Using them in dirty bombs is like having a tank but instead of using the main gun to kill people you just drive circles around them and hope the exhaust will damage their lungs. A dirty bomb made with these elements would be mroe dangerous due to the chemical toxicity than the radiation, might as well just surround a bomb with arsenic, thats just as deadly and a million times cheaper.

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: ChunkiMunki
was it really the US resposibility for regime change? or the iraqis? there are and plenty worse than hussein. what a complete waste with no end in sight. "mission accomplished" indeed.

Not necessarily a US responsibility, but eventually someone would have caused the end to the horror show that was Saddam Hussein.

Can you imagine your daughters being raped and your sons being murdered there, only you can't go to the police because the rapists and the murderers are the police? I call those elements WMDs.

OK? Is that reason enough to invade them and steal their oil because there is raping and corruption going on?

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: ChunkiMunki
was it really the US resposibility for regime change? or the iraqis? there are and plenty worse than hussein. what a complete waste with no end in sight. "mission accomplished" indeed.

Not necessarily a US responsibility, but eventually someone would have caused the end to the horror show that was Saddam Hussein.

Can you imagine your daughters being raped and your sons being murdered there, only you can't go to the police because the rapists and the murderers are the police? I call those elements WMDs.

OK? Is that reason enough to invade them and steal their oil because there is raping and corruption going on?

Link?

 

[compuwiz1]

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: ChunkiMunki
was it really the US resposibility for regime change? or the iraqis? there are and plenty worse than hussein. what a complete waste with no end in sight. "mission accomplished" indeed.

Not necessarily a US responsibility, but eventually someone would have caused the end to the horror show that was Saddam Hussein.

Can you imagine your daughters being raped and your sons being murdered there, only you can't go to the police because the rapists and the murderers are the police? I call those elements WMDs.

OK? Is that reason enough to invade them and steal their oil because there is raping and corruption going on?

Do you have proof that the US has stolen their oil?

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: ChunkiMunki
was it really the US resposibility for regime change? or the iraqis? there are and plenty worse than hussein. what a complete waste with no end in sight. "mission accomplished" indeed.

Not necessarily a US responsibility, but eventually someone would have caused the end to the horror show that was Saddam Hussein.

Can you imagine your daughters being raped and your sons being murdered there, only you can't go to the police because the rapists and the murderers are the police? I call those elements WMDs.

OK? Is that reason enough to invade them and steal their oil because there is raping and corruption going on?

Do you have proof that the US has stolen their oil?

Of course not. It's just another fabricated bullshit claim anti-war people spout.

 

[palehorse]

review the tapes, translate the documents yourselves, and THEN refute the claims if your findings are different than theirs... this is how debate on such topics is normally handled.

good luck!

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
Of course not. It's just another fabricated bullshit claim anti-war people spout.

Yep. And then they come back later with bullshit stories about low oil production et al.

If we're stealing all this oil, please provide evidence to support the claims. Otherwise, anyone making such bullshit claims is disgusting. :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown:

 

[First]

Originally posted by: Narmer

OK? Is that reason enough to invade them and steal their oil because there is raping and corruption going on?

Why do you keep spouting this nonsense? I mean, you could argue that part of the reason Iraq was invaded was to stablize oil prices to keep them from being inflated due to low supply and high demand issues in the ME. But otherwise, to continue to make this unsourced claim as if it were obvious, is kind of sad, especially when your standard of evidence is about as strict as a conspiracy theorists'.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Evan Lieb

Originally posted by: Narmer

OK? Is that reason enough to invade them and steal their oil because there is raping and corruption going on?

Why do you keep spouting this nonsense? I mean, you could argue that part of the reason Iraq was invaded was to stablize oil prices to keep them from being inflated due to low supply and high demand issues in the ME. But otherwise, to continue to make this unsourced claim as if it were obvious, is kind of sad, especially when your standard of evidence is about as strict as a conspiracy theorists'.

Actually, real conspiracy nutjobs actually attempt to back up their ridiculous claims by connecting dots and presenting semi-completed puzzles to their critics.

Narmer, OTOH, simply throws one-liners into the room hoping that his critics are dumber than him... unfortunately, for him, very few people fit that description!

 

[First]

^ It's also an issue of being honest; for example, if a small part of the reason we went into Iraq was for the sake of stablizing oil prices, as Greenspan quite possibly may have been alluding to in his recent book, then I understand that from a microeconomic point of view, because it's savvy. But to "steal" oil, as in plundering an entire country knowing full well tens of thousands of people will die, including Americans, for said goals, to me insinuates a Stalin/Hitler-like evil, whose intentions were nothing like GWB. The implied parallel is beyond insulting when taken to this extreme; you can have bad judgment like a GWB, and be nothing like a Stalin or Hitler morally.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: ChunkiMunki
was it really the US resposibility for regime change? or the iraqis? there are and plenty worse than hussein. what a complete waste with no end in sight. "mission accomplished" indeed.

Not necessarily a US responsibility, but eventually someone would have caused the end to the horror show that was Saddam Hussein.

Can you imagine your daughters being raped and your sons being murdered there, only you can't go to the police because the rapists and the murderers are the police? I call those elements WMDs.

OK? Is that reason enough to invade them and steal their oil because there is raping and corruption going on?

Do you have proof that the US has stolen their oil?

Of course not. It's just another fabricated bullshit claim anti-war people spout.

Actually it's much more insidious than stealing Iraq's Oil. It was to establish a greater presence in the Middle East to further our influence over the oil that flowed from there. Of course it was a flawed concept from the beginning like all of this incompetent Administrations other Foriegn Policies.

 

[compuwiz1]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: ChunkiMunki
was it really the US resposibility for regime change? or the iraqis? there are and plenty worse than hussein. what a complete waste with no end in sight. "mission accomplished" indeed.

Not necessarily a US responsibility, but eventually someone would have caused the end to the horror show that was Saddam Hussein.

Can you imagine your daughters being raped and your sons being murdered there, only you can't go to the police because the rapists and the murderers are the police? I call those elements WMDs.

OK? Is that reason enough to invade them and steal their oil because there is raping and corruption going on?

Do you have proof that the US has stolen their oil?

Of course not. It's just another fabricated bullshit claim anti-war people spout.

Actually it's much more insidious than stealing Iraq's Oil. It was to establish a greater presence in the Middle East to further our influence over the oil that flowed from there. Of course it was a flawed concept from the beginning like all of this incompetent Administrations other Foriegn Policies.

That's about as possible as seeing a gorgeous babe in a bikini, over there.

Red, no more shrooms for you!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: Narmer

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: ChunkiMunki
was it really the US resposibility for regime change? or the iraqis? there are and plenty worse than hussein. what a complete waste with no end in sight. "mission accomplished" indeed.

Not necessarily a US responsibility, but eventually someone would have caused the end to the horror show that was Saddam Hussein.

Can you imagine your daughters being raped and your sons being murdered there, only you can't go to the police because the rapists and the murderers are the police? I call those elements WMDs.

OK? Is that reason enough to invade them and steal their oil because there is raping and corruption going on?

Do you have proof that the US has stolen their oil?

Of course not. It's just another fabricated bullshit claim anti-war people spout.

Actually it's much more insidious than stealing Iraq's Oil. It was to establish a greater presence in the Middle East to further our influence over the oil that flowed from there. Of course it was a flawed concept from the beginning like all of this incompetent Administrations other Foriegn Policies.

That's about as possible as seeing a gorgeous babe in a bikini, over there.

Red, no more shrooms for you!

So you're niave enough to believe it was just to free the Iraqi People from the muderous Saddam? This Administration counts on people like you.

 

[sandorski]

This is not a Dead Horse, it is a Straw Horse.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: ChunkiMunki
whether he did or didn't, in hindsight it was and still is a tremendous mistake taking hussein out. it might have been easier dealing with one dictator than scores of insurgent groups bent on killing Americans.

I actually agree with this. We could have used Saddam for a second Iran/Iraq war.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: sandorski
This is not a Dead Horse, it is a Straw Horse.

:thumbsup:

 

[Gaard]

Saddam?s nuclear documents compel any reasonable person to the conclusion that, more probably than not, there were in fact nuclear WMD sites, components, and programs hidden inside Iraq at the time the Coalition forces invaded.

IOW, "There is no doubt."

:roll:

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: ChunkiMunki
was it really the US resposibility for regime change? or the iraqis? there are and plenty worse than hussein. what a complete waste with no end in sight. "mission accomplished" indeed.

Not necessarily a US responsibility, but eventually someone would have caused the end to the horror show that was Saddam Hussein.

Can you imagine your daughters being raped and your sons being murdered there, only you can't go to the police because the rapists and the murderers are the police? I call those elements WMDs.

Perhaps you should go refresh your memory on what the definition of "WMD" is.

 

[RaiderJ]

If he had them, why didn't he use them when we invaded? That really would have been the best time I would think. If he couldn't even use them then, how was he a threat to us across an ocean?

 

[First]

Originally posted by: Gaard

Saddam?s nuclear documents compel any reasonable person to the conclusion that, more probably than not, there were in fact nuclear WMD sites, components, and programs hidden inside Iraq at the time the Coalition forces invaded.

IOW, "There is no doubt."

:roll:

Yeah, this is what I find most perplexing about the article. Nuclear weapons? Can you imagine the fallout for Dems if there were any evidence for that? The war would have easily been worth all this trouble if we found nuclear weapons, except the administration and Republicans have made no such claims. I just don't see how any of this can be considered likely true.