So it's ok to play upon Indian stereotypes (Kwik-E-Mart). What happens if we played upon African American Stereotypes??

steppinthrax

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So I've seen the Simpsons. You all should know about the stereotypical character that plays on Indian stereotypes. I guess it doesn?t bother me too much considering that it's contained in a show. But now 7-11 has agreed to convert some of their stores to this Kwik-E-Mart. It's obvious no one is complaining. But there are a lot of stereotypes of other cultures. What happened if we opened a KFC that played upon African American Stereotypes. etc. etc.... See how quick that store gets stoned and/or the person who thought up that idea gets canned faster then you can say Imus in the morning.
 

ayabe

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Indians AFAIK weren't ever slaves in this country.

Indians AFAIK were never terrorized and lynched or segregated from their fellow white citizens in this country.

There is nothing racist about Kwik-E-Mart, nor do I think most Indians or Americans think having the stereotype as entrepreneurs is negative.

What is this thread about?
 

steppinthrax

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Originally posted by: ayabe
Indians AFAIK weren't ever slaves in this country.

Indians AFAIK were never terrorized and lynched or segregated from their fellow white citizens in this country.

There is nothing racist about Kwik-E-Mart, nor do I think most Indians or Americans think having the stereotype as entrepreneurs is negative.

What is this thread about?

Just about every ethnicity have been enslaved and mistreated due to their race (remember the jews).

The Kwik-E-Mart icon plays upon common indian stereotypes in a way to make fun of most Indians. Lets not forget this plays like a cartoon. Most children will end up watching this and feel this is the way most indians act. If you are OK with this lets have some stereotypical black character in the Simpsons.

 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: steppinthrax
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: ayabe
Indians AFAIK weren't ever slaves in this country.

Indians AFAIK were never terrorized and lynched or segregated from their fellow white citizens in this country.

There is nothing racist about Kwik-E-Mart, nor do I think most Indians or Americans think having the stereotype as entrepreneurs is negative.

What is this thread about?</end quote></div>

Just about every ethnicity have been enslaved and mistreated due to their race (remember the jews).


The Kwik-E-Mart icon plays upon common indian stereotypes in a way to make fun of most Indians. Lets not forget this plays like a cartoon. Most children will end up watching this and feel this is the way most indians act. If you are OK with this lets have some stereotypical black character in the Simpsons.

Not in this country which is why blacks are given some special protections. Wrong or right, it is what it is.

You are operating under the assumption that a stereotype has to automatically be negative. I have seen many Simpsons episodes with Apu and I don't recall anything approaching something offensive. There have been several episodes where Indian culture is brought to light and celebrated, (like Apu's wedding). Apu has also on several occasions saved Homer from himself.

So am I to be offended by the stereotype of the evil corporate robber baron Mr. Burns? Or the stereotype that the average white guy in America is stupid and lazy(Homer). I guess Kent Brockman is a stereotype of a newscaster. The fat guy in the comic book store with the lisp? Everyone in the Simpsons is a stereotype in some way, that's part of what makes the show great and how they can satirize our society so succinctly.

 

boredhokie

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Originally posted by: steppinthrax
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: ayabe
Indians AFAIK weren't ever slaves in this country.

Indians AFAIK were never terrorized and lynched or segregated from their fellow white citizens in this country.

There is nothing racist about Kwik-E-Mart, nor do I think most Indians or Americans think having the stereotype as entrepreneurs is negative.

What is this thread about?</end quote></div>

Just about every ethnicity have been enslaved and mistreated due to their race (remember the jews).

The Kwik-E-Mart icon plays upon common indian stereotypes in a way to make fun of most Indians. Lets not forget this plays like a cartoon. Most children will end up watching this and feel this is the way most indians act. If you are OK with this lets have some stereotypical black character in the Simpsons.

You mean Carl, the stereotypical black character? Do you even watch the show?
 

jonks

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Hey, there's stereotyping, and there's art imitating life. Every 7-11 I've ever been in (in the NY Metro area) has been run by persons of Indian sub-continental descent (that PC enough a term?)

 

bamacre

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But they aren't all negative, in fact most of his character's traits are positive. He was friendly, a successful entrepeneur, hard-working, and had a doctorate degree in computer science. He was also noted as Springfield's most desired bachelor.

 

imported_Shivetya

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Originally posted by: ayabe
Indians AFAIK weren't ever slaves in this country.

Indians AFAIK were never terrorized and lynched or segregated from their fellow white citizens in this country.

There is nothing racist about Kwik-E-Mart, nor do I think most Indians or Americans think having the stereotype as entrepreneurs is negative.

What is this thread about?


you forgot one.

Indians are working hard to improve their lot in life instead of relying on some damn fool politician to give them someone else's money.


and no I am not encompassing all of the African American community, but its amazing how damn frequent those who claim to support them go out of their way to load upon reason upon reason for them to be down - effetively your saying that they are not capable of overcoming past problems and move forward on their own - which is about as rascist as you can get!
 

Narmer

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Originally posted by: Shivetya
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: ayabe
Indians AFAIK weren't ever slaves in this country.

Indians AFAIK were never terrorized and lynched or segregated from their fellow white citizens in this country.

There is nothing racist about Kwik-E-Mart, nor do I think most Indians or Americans think having the stereotype as entrepreneurs is negative.

What is this thread about?</end quote></div>


you forgot one.

Indians are working hard to improve their lot in life instead of relying on some damn fool politician to give them someone else's money.


and no I am not encompassing all of the African American community, but its amazing how damn frequent those who claim to support them go out of their way to load upon reason upon reason for them to be down - effetively your saying that they are not capable of overcoming past problems and move forward on their own - which is about as rascist as you can get!

Do you have proof of what you're saying or are you lying again?
 

imported_Shivetya

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Originally posted by: Narmer
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Shivetya
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: ayabe
Indians AFAIK weren't ever slaves in this country.

Indians AFAIK were never terrorized and lynched or segregated from their fellow white citizens in this country.

There is nothing racist about Kwik-E-Mart, nor do I think most Indians or Americans think having the stereotype as entrepreneurs is negative.

What is this thread about?</end quote></div>


you forgot one.

Indians are working hard to improve their lot in life instead of relying on some damn fool politician to give them someone else's money.


and no I am not encompassing all of the African American community, but its amazing how damn frequent those who claim to support them go out of their way to load upon reason upon reason for them to be down - effetively your saying that they are not capable of overcoming past problems and move forward on their own - which is about as rascist as you can get!</end quote></div>

Do you have proof of what you're saying or are you lying again?


since when did truth matter to you?

I made an observation, not a statement of fact. If you cannot tell the difference between the two then I suggest you refrain from injecting displays of idiocy.

So, were you asking for proof or just being stupid again? (see, rhetorical questions add nothing to the conversation, which constitutes the majority of your posting - nothings)
 

jhbball

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Originally posted by: Shivetya
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: ayabe
Indians AFAIK weren't ever slaves in this country.

Indians AFAIK were never terrorized and lynched or segregated from their fellow white citizens in this country.

There is nothing racist about Kwik-E-Mart, nor do I think most Indians or Americans think having the stereotype as entrepreneurs is negative.

What is this thread about?</end quote></div>


you forgot one.

Indians are working hard to improve their lot in life instead of relying on some damn fool politician to give them someone else's money.


and no I am not encompassing all of the African American community, but its amazing how damn frequent those who claim to support them go out of their way to load upon reason upon reason for them to be down - effetively your saying that they are not capable of overcoming past problems and move forward on their own - which is about as rascist as you can get!

Black people don't work hard. This white person speaks the truth.
 

Narmer

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Originally posted by: Shivetya
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Narmer
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Shivetya
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: ayabe
Indians AFAIK weren't ever slaves in this country.

Indians AFAIK were never terrorized and lynched or segregated from their fellow white citizens in this country.

There is nothing racist about Kwik-E-Mart, nor do I think most Indians or Americans think having the stereotype as entrepreneurs is negative.

What is this thread about?</end quote></div>


you forgot one.

Indians are working hard to improve their lot in life instead of relying on some damn fool politician to give them someone else's money.


and no I am not encompassing all of the African American community, but its amazing how damn frequent those who claim to support them go out of their way to load upon reason upon reason for them to be down - effetively your saying that they are not capable of overcoming past problems and move forward on their own - which is about as rascist as you can get!</end quote></div>

Do you have proof of what you're saying or are you lying again?</end quote></div>


since when did truth matter to you?

I made an observation, not a statement of fact. If you cannot tell the difference between the two then I suggest you refrain from injecting displays of idiocy.

So, were you asking for proof or just being stupid again? (see, rhetorical questions add nothing to the conversation, which constitutes the majority of your posting - nothings)

Then I will assuming you are a liar unless you can provide proof from your observations. BTW, are you indian or jewish? I'm asking because I want to tell you my own observations.
 

StageLeft

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Indians AFAIK weren't ever slaves in this country.

Indians AFAIK were never terrorized and lynched or segregated from their fellow white citizens in this country.
So only Blacks are allowed to not have racist jokes about them? Sad.
 

Conky

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What's next? Jewish clowns protesting the sale of Krusty-O's at the Kwik-E-Marts? :roll:

Doh! :laugh:
 

athithi

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Originally posted by: steppinthrax
So I've seen the Simpsons. You all should know about the stereotypical character that plays on Indian stereotypes. I guess it doesn?t bother me too much considering that it's contained in a show. But now 7-11 has agreed to convert some of their stores to this Kwik-E-Mart. It's obvious no one is complaining. But there are a lot of stereotypes of other cultures. What happened if we opened a KFC that played upon African American Stereotypes. etc. etc.... See how quick that store gets stoned and/or the person who thought up that idea gets canned faster then you can say Imus in the morning.

7-11 surveyed their Indian franchise owners and found that most of them were not offended by this campaign. Apu is one of the more loveable and better-etched characters in The Simpsons and the show has devoted plenty of time to portraying his character in a positive light. If anything, the caucasian stereotypes are the harshest in the show.
 

steppinthrax

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I think part of my problem here is how African Americans get preferential treatment in society. We have high people in gov and airports who say we should and would be a good idea to profile middle eastern. They say this on television and pretty openly. Does anyone complain? But what happened if a police commissioner or other gov official in a major city (such as Baltimore) stated it should be a good idea to profile African Americans in Baltimore. Or any other city that has a Black population.
 

imported_Shivetya

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Originally posted by: Narmer
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Shivetya
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Narmer
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Shivetya
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: ayabe
Indians AFAIK weren't ever slaves in this country.

Indians AFAIK were never terrorized and lynched or segregated from their fellow white citizens in this country.

There is nothing racist about Kwik-E-Mart, nor do I think most Indians or Americans think having the stereotype as entrepreneurs is negative.

What is this thread about?</end quote></div>


you forgot one.

Indians are working hard to improve their lot in life instead of relying on some damn fool politician to give them someone else's money.


and no I am not encompassing all of the African American community, but its amazing how damn frequent those who claim to support them go out of their way to load upon reason upon reason for them to be down - effetively your saying that they are not capable of overcoming past problems and move forward on their own - which is about as rascist as you can get!</end quote></div>

Do you have proof of what you're saying or are you lying again?</end quote></div>


since when did truth matter to you?

I made an observation, not a statement of fact. If you cannot tell the difference between the two then I suggest you refrain from injecting displays of idiocy.

So, were you asking for proof or just being stupid again? (see, rhetorical questions add nothing to the conversation, which constitutes the majority of your posting - nothings)</end quote></div>

Then I will assuming you are a liar unless you can provide proof from your observations. BTW, are you indian or jewish? I'm asking because I want to tell you my own observations.

then start telling instead of crying.

As for your background or mine, I don't trust anything anyone posts on these boards unless backed with links.

Unfortunately life does not provide convienent links that I can post into internet messages.

So, are you going to tell use your own observations or just be stupid again?
 

imported_Shivetya

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Originally posted by: Conky
What's next? Jewish clowns protesting the sale of Krusty-O's at the Kwik-E-Marts? :roll:

Doh! :laugh:

don't they do to pennies what normal clowns do to balloons?
 
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