So much for "8 cores is more future proof!"

[jamesdsimone]

The Barton 2500+ left no question of AMD's superiority.

I loved my 2500+. I got the mobile version and clocked it up to 3200+ speeds. I was broke at the time. Great budget build.

 

[Hans Gruber]

I loved my 2500+. I got the mobile version and clocked it up to 3200+ speeds. I was broke at the time. Great budget build.

I get a lot of heat here on the forum for my criticism of AMD. I think I have more AMD processors from the glory years than anybody on this forum. I had a Ryzen test system when all the AMD redacted were still using Intel systems.

The Barton 2500+ could OC like mad and destroyed Intel P4's. I had DDR 3200mhz 2-2-2 memory kits.

 

[mikeymikec]

I get a lot of heat here on the forum for my criticism of AMD. I think I have more AMD processors from the glory years than anybody on this forum. I had a Ryzen test system when all the AMD redacted were still using Intel systems.

Are you using the "some of my best friends are ..." defence?!?

 

[Hans Gruber]

Are you using the "some of my best friends are ..." defence?!?

I am using with friends like mine, who needs enemies.

 

[coercitiv]

My first AMD processor ran at 40Mhz, oddly enough the quality of my criticism towards AMD has no correlation with the age and number of AMD products I owned and used. I must be the exception though. /s

 

[Shivansps]

My first AMD processor ran at 40Mhz, oddly enough the quality of my criticism towards AMD has no correlation with the age and number of AMD products I owned and used. I must be the exception though. /s

40 mhz? i remember that i had a K5 PR75 i belive, i dont seem to remember something earlier. You are talking about the 386s?

 

[rainy]

40 mhz? i remember that i had a K5 PR75 i belive, i dont seem to remember something earlier. You are talking about the 386s?

It could be 386 or 486.
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/am386
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/am486/am486dx-40

Btw, 386DX-40 was my first AMD CPU.

 

[MrTeal]

I loved my 2500+. I got the mobile version and clocked it up to 3200+ speeds. I was broke at the time. Great budget build.

I get a lot of heat here on the forum for my criticism of AMD. I think I have more AMD processors from the glory years than anybody on this forum. I had a Ryzen test system when all the AMD fanboys were still using Intel systems.

The Barton 2500+ could OC like mad and destroyed Intel P4's. I had DDR 3200mhz 2-2-2 memory kits.

Someone near me has an old system listed with a 2500+ in an Nforce2 Ultra 400 board for $30 and I'm trying really hard to convince myself that I shouldn't buy it.

 

[SPBHM]

I got a cheapo e3 1270 v3 last year (basically a 4770) and I'm still kinda of blown away with hot nicely it held for most games and emulators, I have it running Switch games pretty well.

the FX was always a very problematic CPU, power usage never made sense for how it performed and single thread performance was pretty bad, also scaling to 8 cores is far from perfect since it's structured as a 4 core CPU for vast portions of it, so yeah, not great.

even at unreasonable 5ghz and 200+w it's often behind the i7 2700k (at stock often enough) in more current software

 

[carrotmania]

What is this analysis doing in a retro Bulldozer thread?

Why do you think... ?

 

[coercitiv]

Btw, 386DX-40 was my first AMD CPU.

Same! (to the best of my recollection)

 

[ElFenix]

What is this analysis doing in a retro Bulldozer thread? As much as I want to point and laugh at the idea of Intel effectively abandoning their own fabs (and undermining IFS) by shifting all their critical parts to TSMC, this thread is not the place for that.

what's a bulldozer thread doing in 2024?

 

[crashtech]

The only reason I can think of it to throw shade on AMD. What a productive use of time!

Side note, when I was maintaining the old Cinebench thread, I had to include the "8 core" FX chips in with the 4C/8T chips, otherwise they were totally outclassed by real 8 core chips, which typically had 16 threads.

But AMD got past that dark period of their history, and for that, we can all be grateful, no matter which company we prefer. Nobody wanted a CPU monopoly. Well, nobody with a brain.

 

[DrMrLordX]

what's a bulldozer thread doing in 2024?

Bulldozing.

 

[Mopetar]

what's a bulldozer thread doing in 2024?

Clearly treading over old ground in an effort to keep unearth the past.

 

[lightmanek]

My first AMD processor I bought was K5, but first time I used AMD processor was in times when having a colour monitor was rare ... Am286

 

[Schmide]

My first AMD processor was a Am486DX2-66 which I ran at 80mhz i think. Oh the days of front side bus overclocks

 

[igor_kavinski]

My first was Intel 386DX-40 at the age of about 12 or 13. Didn't even know at the time who AMD was. I don't remember why but for some reason, Dad upgraded it to 486DX2-66. I wished it was a DX-50 coz of its higher bus speed. But now I see that it wasn't without issues. First AMD was Sempron 2 GHz.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Clearly treading over old ground in an effort to keep unearth the past.

The dad jokes are the best thing to come out of this thread.

 

[Hotrod2go]

FX line of cpus had instruction sets that Intel did not have at the time. Of course, these ended up being for niche cases. But cpu manufacturers have to make the egg first before the chicken hatches... so to speak, with putting the hardware out there in the hope that software developers can do something with.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I wonder how hard it can be now to let AI optimize binaries for specific instruction sets (replacing sections of code in the binary with optimized ones) without access to the original source code. That would surely open up lots of exciting new possibilities and maybe more new cans of worms (hey, the AI model you used for binary optimization is inferior to this or that!).

 

[bononos]

My first was Intel 386DX-40 at the age of about 12 or 13. Didn't even know at the time who AMD was. I don't remember why but for some reason, Dad upgraded it to 486DX2-66. I wished it was a DX-50 coz of its higher bus speed. But now I see that it wasn't without issues. First AMD was Sempron 2 GHz.

I had the AMD 486DX4 100, not sure if it was the enhanced version with the write back cache. The motherboard had fake ram cache chips, I remembered it was big news at that time in the mid or late 90s and AT probably had an article on it. I upgraded to a K5-133 after that.

 

[Thibsie]

Well, AMD came with FMA4 which was what it should have been. Intel came with stupid FMA3 but as well all know, Intel is (was) always right, huh ?

At least they managed to bring AMD64 to a standard.