So my father-in-law sends me this email with a scanned food stamp reciept...

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Lifer
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My father-in-law sent this chain letter type email to friends and family from a super market local to him showing a receipt where food stamps were used to purchase a bunch of high end food...

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hpho...81569865266_1416297403_31250624_2979000_n.jpg

I was a little shocked... I immediately wondered if this was feasible / possible / allowed...

If it is a receipt that is legit...WOW I am glad my taxes are going to better those less fortunate.

yeah, its entirely common for people to do that with food stamps

it should be more like WIC, imo, which (last i knew, anyway) limits what you can use the funds for to certain kinds of items by various brands.
 

LurkerPrime

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Its always great to watch the person in front of you buy a cart full of steaks using his food stamps and then pull out a wad of 20s to pay for his carton of cigs.

To be honest its better than being behind the old lady with 25 coupons, who then argues about them not accepting the one thats expired. Then after thats settled takes another eternity to write a damn check. They should give old ladies food stamps just to speed up the checkout process.
 

LurkerPrime

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Yes, and? If someone has $100+ worth of food stamps why do you care which foods they can buy with them?

So you see nothing wrong with someone buying steaks and lobster on government assistance while they talk on thier iphone and have no problem paying cash for a carton of cigs?

Do you pay taxes? Do you get to eat this well? (assuming your not on food stamps)

On second thought, why don't we just give poor people all a free lexus and/or BMW while we are at it. We shouldn't make them have to take busses or trains.
 

tcsenter

Lifer
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The point is that food stamps or assistance are supposed to benefit dependent children primarily. What do think the chances are this person was shopping for their children with lobster and steak?
 

Veliko

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So you see nothing wrong with someone buying steaks and lobster on government assistance while they talk on thier iphone and have no problem paying cash for a carton of cigs?

Do you pay taxes? Do you get to eat this well? (assuming your not on food stamps)

On second thought, why don't we just give poor people all a free lexus and/or BMW while we are at it. We shouldn't make them have to take buses or trains.

Are you honestly that jealous of poor people? You see them eating steaks, lobster and talking on an iPhone and that is enough to make you think that their overall lifestyle is vastly better than your own?

The food stamps will have been bought, stolen or borrowed. The iPhone will be second hand, stolen/bought from the black market or they saved up for it by going without something else.

If these people are eating better than you it either means your diet is crap or they are sacrificing other things in order to try and improve their lot.
 

Veliko

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The point is that food stamps or assistance are supposed to benefit dependent children primarily. What do think the chances are this person was shopping for their children with lobster and steak?

I don't know. You clearly don't either.
 

uclaLabrat

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I see people in bodegas, yes BODEGAS, buying waaayyyy overpriced crap because their FAT lazy ass can't walk another 2 blocks to the supermarket, and pay with their food-stamp card.

I do see that it could be beneficial to physically impaired and seniors, but some of these losers are neither, and they still spend twice as much in the bodega as the supermarket would charge (and this is NYC supermarket prices, so double that).
The markets here are freaking obscene. My wife and I bus our asses all the way over to the target in spanish harlem to get groceries every week....even with the cab ride back, it's still like half the price we'd pay at the local markets. Literally half.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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I'd rather live in my decent house with most of the stuff I want than eat steak and lobster one week a month and live in a shithole project with at best a cellphone and booze to entertain me.
 

Veliko

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Yah, keep those willful blinders on to what is happening here.

So what is happening here? Have you actually visited the homes of these poor people or do you just sit there tutting in the supermarket as they buy steaks?

I am not really sure what your point is here.
 

cerebusPu

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i remember reading that >20% of people living in DC are in food stamps and the local food stamp program is working hard to get more people covered.

link to article
http://money.cnn.com/2010/12/21/news/economy/food_stamps/index.htm

[q]The number of food stamp recipients increased 16% over last year. This means that 14% of the population is now living on food stamps. That's about 43 million people, or about one out of every seven Americans.

In some states, like Tennessee, Mississippi, New Mexico and Oregon, one in five people are receiving food stamps. Washington, D.C. leads the nation, with 21.5% of the population on food stamps.[/q]
 

leeland

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I would hate to spend time with your family if this is the type of shit you sit around worrying about

To be totally honest this is from my father in law who lives in this town...I personally don't give a hoot about it but thought it was pretty interesting to see the mindset of someone who is using the free money to life the high life...and again 'IF TRUE' reinforces my believe in this system...and the people who abuse it.

I don't know if that is a months worth of assistance or a week...the receipt says nothing about the person who made the purchase but the mere fact the only things involved were over 100 dollars of expensive food that would most likely be good for a day or two is what surprised me.

As others have said, my family has to operate in a certain budget and that means buying things in bulk and also generics to make ends meet...and to also save and be smart.

My brother-in-law and also my sister fall into this group where they get multiple streams of assistance through the state and county yet seemingly piss it away and have nothing to show for it...here is a brief example of my sister...and I am not trying to throw her totally under the bus here in this forum but I won't feel 1 bit bad for the statements made since they are 100% true.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=30942096&postcount=48


How pathetic. Someone who has nothing better to do than hate on poor people.


He's right of course the poor have it so good. Their lives are paradise. They should suffer so he can lower his taxes .8%.


One person buying lobster on food stamp for reasons unknown clearly means the whole program should be scrapped. Starving kids on the streets build a strong country.

See above comment...and I don't hate on poor people so please don't say that. It is like anything else...a small percentage of people abusing a system give the entire group a stigma.

i dont care what they buy, they should be allowed anything they want... but all i know is i have to aggressively budget my food expenses every month, and that means i must buy generic foods for the most part or i simply will not meet my budget. but somehow im always waiting behind someone with food stamps that has a cart twice as full with twice as expensive shit in it. they spend $160 of taxpayers money, i spend $55 of my money. thats what doesnt feel right to me.

I totally agree
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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i remember reading that >20% of people living in DC are in food stamps and the local food stamp program is working hard to get more people covered.

link to article
http://money.cnn.com/2010/12/21/news/economy/food_stamps/index.htm

[q]The number of food stamp recipients increased 16% over last year. This means that 14% of the population is now living on food stamps. That's about 43 million people, or about one out of every seven Americans.

In some states, like Tennessee, Mississippi, New Mexico and Oregon, one in five people are receiving food stamps. Washington, D.C. leads the nation, with 21.5% of the population on food stamps.[/q]

It's only going to get worse as time goes on. You can't support a family on a mcdonald's wage, and the only other choice is going to be to move to india or china to get a decent wage for a days work. There's some good jobs out there, but there's simply not enough of them and it's only going to get worse.
 

eits

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My father-in-law sent this chain letter type email to friends and family from a super market local to him showing a receipt where food stamps were used to purchase a bunch of high end food...

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/183560_1581569865266_1416297403_31250624_2979000_n.jpg

I was a little shocked... I immediately wondered if this was feasible / possible / allowed...

If it is a receipt that is legit...WOW I am glad my taxes are going to better those less fortunate.

wait, what? you're upset that ebt is being used for quality food? why? wtf do you think ebt should be used for? shitty, unhealthy, cheap "food"? why?
 
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if i am going to be forced to pay for your dinner, i should have the right to choose what you eat.

what a f'd up system
 

lxskllr

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What difference does it make if someone spends $141 on steaks and lobsters or $141 on sugar and microwave meals?

Because the money is given for survival, not pleasure. Both lobster and steak are fairly low quality food. The steak has a good amount of protein but otherwise they might as well be buying whisky. Vegetables, grains, and fruits are all appropriate food. Tuna is much healthier than steak. Instead of handing out dependence cards, they should be given government selected food once per week. If they don't like the government's selection, they can find their own food.
 

eits

Lifer
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if i am going to be forced to pay for your dinner, i should have the right to choose what you eat.

what a f'd up system

it's not f'ed up at all. what would you rather have happen? them become unhealthy and a burden on our healthcare system? would you rather they became homeless? etc.

look, the fact of the matter is that no matter how you feel about it, cents-worth are taken from taxes per person to fund these programs so that those who are going through hard economic times and are still trying to find work, etc, can survive. it's not like you can make any amount of money and get food stamps. you need to prove that you're low-income and/or unemployed and you get checked-on constantly. every month, they follow up with you and want various proof of how much money you make and whatnot. if you make over a certain amount of money, they cut you from the program.

to me, that sounds like a fair deal.
 

Beev

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wait, what? you're upset that ebt is being used for quality food? why? wtf do you think ebt should be used for? shitty, unhealthy, cheap "food"? why?

Because they're poor and that's what they deserve.
 

Veliko

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Because the money is given for survival, not pleasure. Both lobster and steak are fairly low quality food. The steak has a good amount of protein but otherwise they might as well be buying whisky. Vegetables, grains, and fruits are all appropriate food. Tuna is much healthier than steak. Instead of handing out dependence cards, they should be given government selected food once per week. If they don't like the government's selection, they can find their own food.

And what makes you think that they would be spending it on healthier products like tuna and vegetables if they couldn't buy steak?
 

eits

Lifer
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Because the money is given for survival, not pleasure. Both lobster and steak are fairly low quality food. The steak has a good amount of protein but otherwise they might as well be buying whisky. Vegetables, grains, and fruits are all appropriate food. Tuna is much healthier than steak. Instead of handing out dependence cards, they should be given government selected food once per week. If they don't like the government's selection, they can find their own food.

you can't buy alcohol with food stamps.

healthy food is for survival. the shittier the food you eat, the less healthy you become, a bigger strain on healthcare you become, the more likely you are to keep being dependent on foodstamps because the shitty food you've been eating has been killing your motivation to do anything other than sit in front of the tv and eat. the more quality food you eat, the healthier you are, the more likely you are to get out there and find a job/better job, the less of a burden you are to healthcare and government because you have a better chance of getting off of food stamps.

i kinda don't disagree with there being a preferred list of foods by the government, but then again, i kinda do. i wouldn't care so much if it involved only foods that didn't come in boxes or preserved in packages... if the government decided to make such a list, dairy, eggs, fresh fruits, vegetables, meats, and certain grains should be the only things the government should pay for. shit like ramen and macaroni and cheese should not.
 
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