So our choice is a lying narcissist or a past his prime standard politician

[dank69]

Very true, but I do worry about the low information voter.

Even the lowest information voters have seen at least one video of Trump being an idiot. I'm still confident that enough people in this nation are extremely anti-Trump.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Even the lowest information voters have seen at least one video of Trump being an idiot. I'm still confident that enough people in this nation are extremely anti-Trump.

I think if Biden wins, it won't be "pro Biden" or "save democracy" or "I like good policies even though Biden is boring AF".

It will be "trump? Not that fucking guy again". I think the people who will swing the vote are just tired of him and his anger and his constant whining about losing 2020. A couple of people I know who are definitely conservative compared to me don't want trump because of that.

 

[K1052]

It will be "trump? Not that fucking guy again". I think the people who will swing the vote are just tired of him and his anger and his constant whining about losing 2020. A couple of people I know who are definitely conservative compared to me don't want trump because of that.

A certain amount of Trump exhaustion is to be expected I think since he'll have stood for three consecutive elections and even some people who might have punched his ticket twice before are possibly somewhat less than satisfied with him now.

 

[WelshBloke]

It's weird how many of you are missing the point. Yes Trump is an angry, incoherent liar, who should be in jail. But everyone voting for him or considering voting for him knows this. All those undecideds were undecided knowing that about him.
Biden looking like, well like he did in that debate is absolutely going to hurt him.

 

[WelshBloke]

Even the lowest information voters have seen at least one video of Trump being an idiot. I'm still confident that enough people in this nation are extremely anti-Trump.

Yet hes still getting enough people polling for him to make it difficult to call whose going to win!

 

[eelw]

It's weird how many of you are missing the point. Yes Trump is an angry, incoherent liar, who should be in jail. But everyone voting for him or considering voting for him knows this. All those undecideds were undecided knowing that about him.
Biden looking like, well like he did in that debate is absolutely going to hurt him.

Yup they support everything he stands for. Just shows the character of those voters.

Need to find the clip of Adam Kinzinger totally destroying the orange monkey butt kisser on the panel. That idiot just sat there getting humiliated being insulted as Adam went through various despicable thing they support from the orange monkey

 

[kage69]

It's weird how many of you are missing the point. Yes Trump is an angry, incoherent liar, who should be in jail. But everyone voting for him or considering voting for him knows this. All those undecideds were undecided knowing that about him.
Biden looking like, well like he did in that debate is absolutely going to hurt him.

I think it's weird you seem to be ignoring everything that's happened since 2020. What have those undecideds done in the last 3 elections since 2020 to everyone with Trump's backing?

I wouldn't read too much into one bad showing. Not happy with Joe's effort there, but I take a little comfort in the clear distinction in party health on the two sides though. Biden has a bad night, people are asking questions, having the hard talks and addressing the issue. The denial is on the other side. When Trump behaves like his waist size and IQ are interchangeable, when he 's completely lost or tries to pretend taking the Montreal Cognitive Assessment is a badge of distinction, all you hear from the magats is crickets or praise. He stayed in office despite the 25th Amendment, and he's running again despite the 14th Amendment. As image goes, Trump is the one in the hole. Maybe if Biden was responsible for making women second class citizens or the avoidable deaths of over 760k Americans we'd see a bit more parity. He's a convicted felon, a rapist, a traitor, an insurrectionist, not to mention some weird kind of wannabe groupie for brutal authoritarians - the same people he'll roll over for if they say nice things about him. One of these decades American conservatives need to learn the meaning of 'conflict of interest,' I hope it's sooner rather than later.

I don't think there's as many undecideds as some peope are saying. Pretty much everyone I know, across the political spectrum, wants Trump to DIAF. With the females it's at 100%. You don't see libertarians booing and heckling Joe Biden. He'll bounce back.

 

[eelw]

He stayed in office despite the 25th Amendment, and he's running again despite the 14th Amendment. As image goes, Trump is the one in the hole.

Yup Pence and Moscow Mitch need to be hauled in to answer for their dereliction of duty

 

[kage69]

Yup Pence and Moscow Mitch need to be hauled in to answer for their dereliction of duty

That ship has sailed I'm afraid. The best we can hope for is Congress to receive an enema sufficient to wash away meaningful numbers of Banana repugs and the Putin caucus. That will allow the Dems to get rid of the unconstitutional filibuster and save our democracy and judicial branch from the special interest serving SCROTUS.

 

[MtnMan]

Trump is so much more than just a lying narcissist. In the grand scheme, this is really the least of his flaws that makes him a threat to the country and the world.

#1 - he is just fucking stupid, and doesn't understand how anything works, from the global economy, to showers.
#2 - he admires ruthless authorial dictators, such as Xi, Kin Jong-un, Putin, Hitler, etc., and clearly wants to emulate them.
#3 - he is a raging racist, would have been a great fit in Hitler's Arian views.
#4 - he is a misogynist monster that sees women as objects to control and pleasure him, if he finds them attractive.
#5 - he is a lazy sloth, probably hasn't put in more than a couple of hours of actual work in a week.
#6 - he has no self-control, something learned early in life when he never suffered consequences for his actions.

And to keep the list short, just closing with the fact he is just beyond painfully fucking stupid.

 

[fskimospy]

I think it's weird you seem to be ignoring everything that's happened since 2020. What have those undecideds done in the last 3 elections since 2020 to everyone with Trump's backing?

I wouldn't read too much into one bad showing. Not happy with Joe's effort there, but I take a little comfort in the clear distinction in party health on the two sides though. Biden has a bad night, people are asking questions, having the hard talks and addressing the issue. The denial is on the other side. When Trump behaves like his waist size and IQ are interchangeable, when he 's completely lost or tries to pretend taking the Montreal Cognitive Assessment is a badge of distinction, all you hear from the magats is crickets or praise. He stayed in office despite the 25th Amendment, and he's running again despite the 14th Amendment. As image goes, Trump is the one in the hole. Maybe if Biden was responsible for making women second class citizens or the avoidable deaths of over 760k Americans we'd see a bit more parity. He's a convict, a rapist, a traitor, an insurrectionist, not to mention some weird kind of wannabe groupie for brutal authoritarians - the same people he'll roll over for if they say nice things about him. One of these decades American conservatives need to learn the meaning of 'conflict of interest,' I hope it's sooner rather than later.

I don't think there's as many undecideds as some peope are saying. Pretty much everyone I know, across the political spectrum, wants Trump to DIAF. With the females it's at 100%. You don't see libertarians booing and heckling Joe Biden. He'll bounce back.

Trump, the unstoppable electoral juggernaut with unshakeable supporters who has never won the popular vote and has essentially had his party lose every midterm election he was associated with.

 

[K1052]

Trump, the unstoppable electoral juggernaut with unshakeable supporters who has never won the popular vote and has essentially had his party lose every midterm election he was associated with.

You're telling me that Herschel Walker and Dr. Oz were not politically crafty data driven choices that the electorate would like?

I'm just now hearing this. You're telling me this for the first time.

 

[kage69]

Trump, the unstoppable electoral juggernaut with unshakeable supporters who has never won the popular vote and has essentially had his party lose every midterm election he was associated with.

This. It's almost like being synonymous with stupidity, lying, cruelty, treason and treachery actually matters to a majority of voters.

 

[kage69]

You're telling me that Herschel Walker and Dr. Oz were not politically crafty data driven choices that the electorate would like?

I'm just now hearing this. You're telling me this for the first time.

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Still laughing at the speed and amount of English the GQP put on dropping Herschel Walker after all that. Hahaha.

Like an ant ridden Twinkie, yueechh! *toss*

Now there's a tremendous bigly brain idea for Trump's veep choice. I can see it now, Syphilis / CTE 2024!

 

[dank69]

Yet hes still getting enough people polling for him to make it difficult to call whose going to win!

My suspicion is that shitbags are overrepresented in the pool of people who currently respond to polls.

 

[WelshBloke]

My suspicion is that shitbags are overrepresented in the pool of people who currently respond to polls.

I am absolutely hoping that that's why Reform are polling so well over here!

 

[kage69]

I am absolutely hoping that that's why Reform are polling so well over here!

I desperately want to believe the UK won't bring that idiot Farage back. Labor is looking good for the next round in July I thought?


July 4th, too. Nice.

 

[WelshBloke]

I desperately want to believe the UK won't bring that idiot Farage back. Labor is looking good for the next round in July I thought?


July 4th, too. Nice.

Labour are absolutely going to win in a landslide.
The Tories are going to be wiped out and possibly end up being the third party in the UK, partly because Reform are eating up their far right support.
It pleases me that Tories are getting wiped out but I'm not looking forward to Farage getting more air time.

 

[MrSquished]

You're telling me that Herschel Walker and Dr. Oz were not politically crafty data driven choices that the electorate would like?

I'm just now hearing this. You're telling me this for the first time.

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And yet still the Georgia Senate race went to a run off. I love how people say oh Trump lost all these races, which is true, And it's great, but don't include the asterisks That put everything in context, which is how fucking close calls these were. And that includes the general fucking election.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Who was that crazy Roman Emperor that declared war on the ocean and had his soldiers stab the water?

I think he was Trumps ancestor.

 

[K1052]

And yet still the Georgia Senate race went to a run off. I love how people say oh Trump lost all these races, which is true, And it's great, but don't include the asterisks That put everything in context, which is how fucking close calls these were. And that includes the general fucking election.

An outright majority can be difficult to obtain if there are more than two people running. Never mind that the whole runoff thing in the south was specifically designed to dilute the power of the black electorate.

 

[MrSquished]

An outright majority can be difficult to obtain if there are more than two people running. Never mind that the whole runoff thing in the south was specifically designed to dilute the power of the black electorate.

So there were more than two people running in the Georgia Senate race? That's news to me.

There are places up here where there's a runoff if nobody gets 50% of the vote, please tell me how that's just the Georgia Southern thing.

You really like to make excuses to obfuscate reality

 

[K1052]

So there were more than two people running in the Georgia Senate race? That's news to me.

A libertarian in 2022. A ton of people in 21.

There are places up here where there's a runoff if nobody gets 50% of the vote, please tell me how that's just the Georgia Southern thing.

Georgia is in fact the only state that holds runoffs for both a primary and general election. Also the geographic distribution of states that hold runoffs at all is lets say somewhat curious.

You really like to make excuses to obfuscate reality

I guess I'm the asshole because I'm modestly curious about about electoral mechanics in America. My apologies.

 

[MrSquished]

A libertarian in 2022. A ton of people in 21.



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Georgia is in fact the only state that holds runoffs for both a primary and general election. Also the geographic distribution of states that hold runoffs at all is lets say somewhat curious.




I guess I'm the asshole because I'm modestly curious about about electoral mechanics in America. My apologies.

My bad on the primary runoffs, I do know we have runoffs up here for other elections.

But as far as the third party excuse? Give me a break with this nonsense about some insignificant nobodies in that race, there are always nobodies, including a libertarian. That was just a complete dog ate my homework excuse. You simply haven't been able to admit how close a lot of the wins you tout were, and you and a couple others make them seem like massive victories. The Georgia Senate race was close as fook, and there is no third party candidate excuse. The general election was way too fucking close too. Even that jackoff fskim still says Biden's win was resounding in 2020. No, it was the last thing from resounding, because the fucking popular vote doesn't matter.

You are still covering for the shitty mistakes the Dems make, and it's your kind of thinking that has us stuck with Biden this year. Which is kind of insulting to any registered Dem with an intellect and self-respect.

 

[Zorba]

Trump is so much more than just a lying narcissist. In the grand scheme, this is really the least of his flaws that makes him a threat to the country and the world.

#1 - he is just fucking stupid, and doesn't understand how anything works, from the global economy, to showers.
#2 - he admires ruthless authorial dictators, such as Xi, Kin Jong-un, Putin, Hitler, etc., and clearly wants to emulate them.
#3 - he is a raging racist, would have been a great fit in Hitler's Arian views.
#4 - he is a misogynist monster that sees women as objects to control and pleasure him, if he finds them attractive.
#5 - he is a lazy sloth, probably hasn't put in more than a couple of hours of actual work in a week.
#6 - he has no self-control, something learned early in life when he never suffered consequences for his actions.

And to keep the list short, just closing with the fact he is just beyond painfully fucking stupid.

And everyone knew that in 2020 and he just barely lost against a candidate that was much better spoken than Biden in 2024.